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Problem with Shimano Nexus 8

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  1. Hi to all,

    This is my first post here and I hope it is OK to skip introduction and go
    straight to the problem.

    I own a Carrera Subway 8 bicycle with Shimano Nexus 8 hub gears since 2004.
    Something like two years ago it started to malfunction so I took it to a
    local shop where they failed to repair it, but they are not really familiar
    with Nexus so that's not unexpected. After that I've put the whole thing on
    my list to investigate and fix, but kept postponing it until now.

    What the problem actually is.. I cannot shift to gear four and lower, and
    after trying I can't shift back to fifth, I just lose power then. There is
    that yellow line for adjusting the shifter which then needs to be
    re-adjusted before I can change to fifth again. It seems that the attempt
    to change to fourth breaks the alignment. And by re-adjusting I mean that
    the whole assembly where the yellow line is can be rotated by hand. It only
    goes from position 'bad' to position 'aligned', it can't be rotated freely
    around. So to clarify, it can then be moved by hand back into the aligned
    position when gears five and higher again work fine.

    For those with schematics that assembly is CJ-8S20 and Inter-8 Hub I have is
    SG-8R25. I have dismantled that assembly but couldn't visually notice
    anything wrong with it. Mind you I am not very experienced with bicycle
    repair so that may not mean a lot.

    I hope someone with some insight reads this group and that I have managed to
    describe the problem clearly.

    Thanks in advance,

    Tvrtko

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Tvrtko Ursulin said:

    I own a Carrera Subway 8 bicycle with Shimano Nexus 8 hub gears since 2004.
    Something like two years ago it started to malfunction so I took it to a
    local shop where they failed to repair it, but they are not really familiar
    with Nexus so that's not unexpected. After that I've put the whole thing on
    my list to investigate and fix, but kept postponing it until now.

    What the problem actually is.. I cannot shift to gear four and lower, and
    after trying I can't shift back to fifth, I just lose power then. There is
    that yellow line for adjusting the shifter which then needs to be
    re-adjusted before I can change to fifth again. It seems that the attempt
    to change to fourth breaks the alignment. And by re-adjusting I mean that
    the whole assembly where the yellow line is can be rotated by hand. It only
    goes from position 'bad' to position 'aligned', it can't be rotated freely
    around. So to clarify, it can then be moved by hand back into the aligned
    position when gears five and higher again work fine.

    I'm not really an expert on the Nexus 8, though I do have one (Alfine).

    This dis-alignment you describe can't have too many possible causes. If
    you haven't, I'd check to make sure the little retention dingus that
    goes over the cable joint isn't loose, and this is a long shot, but is
    the entire hub turning relative to the rear dropouts (ie, the anti-turn
    washers aren't doing their job)?

    If it's not that, I'd begin to suspect a problem with the internals. A
    Nexus 8 is worth the rebuild, and if you can't find a local shop able to
    do the job, it may be worth pulling the guts of the hub and mailing them
    to a shop that can.

    Sorry for the vague and unuseful advice; I hope someone else will chime
    in with more particular knowledge of this problem.

    --
    Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
    "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
    "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

  3. Andre Jute wrote:

    [...snip...]

    Quoted message said:

    If all else fails, you can take the Nexus 8 speed apart at home and
    service it; there are clear instructions (for the coaster version of
    this hub though) on the Lange site in Germand and English in a pdf,
    also on Sheldon Brown's site in HTML in English. If you can't find
    them, ask and I will send you the pdf by e-mail. I wouldn't try the
    repair myself though, even though I took one apart and put it together
    again successfully, and I'm no master mechanic. Thing is, the sort of
    guy who does it for a living will be able to see instantly what is
    wrong, and will have spare parts to fix it. Note that Shimano's idea
    of home service is to offer a dipping can and a bottle of oil in which
    you're supposed to soak the Nexus hub internal assembly whole for 90
    seconds; they do not actually intend amateurs to disassemble it
    further than removing the entire internal assembly as a unit. But at
    least that is a saving since you don't have to send the whole wheels
    but just the slide--out gubbins.

    Thanks for the extensive list of things to check. I won't be able to dive
    into it before this weekend, but after that I will let you know how it
    went.

    Thanks to Ryan as well.

    Best regards,

    Tvrtko

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