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  1. hello,

    i am curious how long a person recovered from a flu infection possesses immunity to the same flu
    virus that just afflicted him? thanks.

    py

  2. Quoted message said:

    hello,

    i am curious how long a person recovered from a flu infection possesses immunity to the same flu
    virus that just afflicted him? thanks.

    py

    People aren't given "flu injections", they get a vaccine, which doesn't not contain the live
    virus. Immunity is not a 100% thing and its duration is quite variable. However, the overwhelming
    majority of those vaccinated will have well over a year's worth of immunity and also resistance to
    similar strains.

    Getting vaccinated is not an "affliction". It may be uncomfortable, but that is the side-effect of
    [wait for it......] Stimulating the Immune System!

  3. "py" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    hello,

    i am curious how long a person recovered from a flu infection possesses immunity to the same flu
    virus that just afflicted him? thanks.

    py

    Immunity to a specific flu virus after suffering the disease can last a very long time if your
    immune system is functioning normally. The problem is that the flu virus is prone to both mutation
    and "genetic drift," so that the influenza that is circulating this year may be enough different to
    infect you even if you got the flu last year. That is why three different strains of flu are
    included in every year's flu vaccine. In a few years, most of the world's population will be immune
    to the strains in this year's vaccine, either through vaccination or from having got the disease, so
    completely different strains will be selected for vaccination.

    --Rich

    -

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ilsa9 said:
    Quoted message said:

    hello,

    i am curious how long a person recovered from a flu infection possesses immunity to the same flu
    virus that just afflicted him? thanks.

    py

    People aren't given "flu injections", they get a vaccine, which doesn't not contain the live virus.

    Down, boy. PY said "infections," not "injections."

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always
    correct. "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my
    shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  5. (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: question about post-flu flu immunity. From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
    Date: 12/13/2003 1:22 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    In article said:

    >hello,
    >
    >i am curious how long a person recovered from a flu infection possesses immunity to the same flu
    >virus that just afflicted him? thanks.
    >
    >py

    People aren't given "flu injections", they get a vaccine, which doesn't not contain the
    live virus.

    Down, boy

    Hmmm, boy.

    As in Andrew Kingoff.

    Quoted message said:

    PY said "infections," not "injections."


    Yet again Jan reveals her ignorance of common cliches and figures of speech, and illustrates her
    concrete, literalist thinking.

    --
    Peter Bowditch
    The Millenium Project ratbags.comrsoles
    The Green Light ratbags.comgreenlight
    and The New Improved Quintessence of the Loon with added Vitamins and C-Q10 ratbags.comloon
    To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

  6. [email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: question about post-flu flu immunity. From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
    Date: 12/13/2003 1:22 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    In article said:

    >hello,
    >
    >i am curious how long a person recovered from a flu infection possesses immunity to the same
    >flu virus that just afflicted him? thanks.
    >
    >py

    People aren't given "flu injections", they get a vaccine, which doesn't not contain the live
    virus.

    Down, boy

    Hmmm, boy.

    <snip>

    Would you have preferred he say, "Down, Jew Boy"?

    Mark, MD

  7. "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Yet again Jan reveals her ignorance of common cliches and figures of speech, and illustrates her
    concrete, literalist thinking.

    Peter Bowditch

    I think that Jan never got much past "Oh! Oh! See Spot run!" [turn page] "See Spot and Sally run!"

    ;o) Rich --> Many here probably are not old enough to remember [censored], Jane, and Sally.

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Peter Bowditch said:
    (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: question about post-flu flu immunity. From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
    Date: 12/13/2003 1:22 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    In article <[email hidden]>, Ilsa9 <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>hello,
    >>
    >>i am curious how long a person recovered from a flu infection possesses immunity to the same
    >>flu virus that just afflicted him? thanks.
    >>
    >>py
    >
    >People aren't given "flu injections", they get a vaccine, which doesn't not contain the live
    >virus.

    Down, boy

    Hmmm, boy.

    As in Andrew Kingoff.

    Quoted message said:

    PY said "infections," not "injections."


    Yet again Jan reveals her ignorance of common cliches and figures of speech, and illustrates her
    concrete, literalist thinking.

    Apparently, she's also never owned, or possibly even seen, a dog.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always
    correct. "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my
    shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  9. (Mark) said:

    [email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: question about post-flu flu immunity. From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
    Date: 12/13/2003 1:22 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    In article <[email hidden]>, Ilsa9 <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>hello,
    >>
    >>i am curious how long a person recovered from a flu infection possesses immunity to the same
    >>flu virus that just afflicted him? thanks.
    >>
    >>py
    >
    >People aren't given "flu injections", they get a vaccine, which doesn't not contain the live
    >virus.

    Down, boy

    Hmmm, boy.

    <snip>

    Would you have preferred he say, "Down, Jew Boy"?

    In that context I think that Jan would prefer "Down Jew Dog"?

    Quoted message said:


    Mark, MD

    ------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------------------------------

    The best defense to logic is ignorance.

  10. (Ilsa9) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yet again Jan reveals her ignorance of common cliches and figures of speech, and illustrates her
    concrete, literalist thinking.

    No, Peter, I must object to your characterization. Jan is, in fact, applying a form of logic,
    alt-logic.

    All Males are boys Andrew King*ff is a boy (male) Andrew King*ff is all boys

    Ja|\|-itor is adept a sophistry ?

    Sophistry is alt.speak.101

    Ja|\|-itor is 101.
    --

    Take out the G'RBAGE to reply
    [email hidden]

  11. (py) said:

    i am curious how long a person recovered from a flu infection possesses immunity to the same flu
    virus that just afflicted him? thanks.

    You are permanently immune to that version of the virus ... unfortunately, it mutates continually,
    and the virus you encounter next year may be different enough to make you sick again.

    Tsu Dho Nimh

    --
    When businesses invoke the "protection of consumers," it's a lot like politicians invoking morality
    and children - grab your wallet and/or your kid and run for your life.

  12. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: question about post-flu flu immunity.
    From: Tsu Dho Nimh [email hidden]
    Date: 12/16/03 10:17 PM Eastern Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    i am curious how long a person recovered from a flu infection possesses immunity to the same flu
    virus that just afflicted him? thanks.

    You are permanently immune to that version of the virus ... unfortunately, it mutates continually,
    and the virus you encounter next year may be different enough to make you sick again.

    Quoted message said:

    Tsu Dho Nimh

    LOL TDN

    So this is your concept. You have lifelong immunity to that virus but....the critters mutate yearly.

    You do realize that you have absolutely no proof for what you have just stated.

    That is, you have no proof that permanent immunity is possible, nor do you have proof that the virus
    mutates yearly.

    Such is the pitiful logic of the medical gods. Just believe us and bow to us...we are gods, we know
    more than you are capable of knowing. We are
    MDs...Medical Gods.

    DrC PhD.

  13. "DRCEEPHD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: question about post-flu flu immunity. From: Tsu Dho Nimh [email hidden]
    Date: 12/16/03 10:17 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    i am curious how long a person recovered from a flu infection possesses immunity to the same flu
    virus that just afflicted him? thanks.

    You are permanently immune to that version of the virus ... unfortunately, it mutates
    continually, and the virus you encounter next year may be different enough to make you
    sick again.

    Quoted message said:

    Tsu Dho Nimh

    LOL TDN

    So this is your concept. You have lifelong immunity to that virus


    but....the

    Quoted message said:

    critters mutate yearly.

    You do realize that you have absolutely no proof for what you have just


    stated.

    Quoted message said:


    That is, you have no proof that permanent immunity is possible, nor do you


    have

    Quoted message said:

    proof that the virus mutates yearly.

    Such is the pitiful logic of the medical gods. Just believe us and bow to us...we are gods, we
    know more than you are capable of knowing. We are
    MDs...Medical Gods.

    DrC PhD.

    Viruses can be preserved in laboratory storage for many years. Thus it is possible to test the
    duration of immunity to a known strain, and not all knowledge of viral activity comes from
    observation of the wild varieties in the general population.

    Since genetic sequencing has become routine, the mutations and shifts in circulating flu viruses
    have been tracked with remarkable accuracy. Of course, this is not acceptable proof for someone who
    would not know the difference between DNA and chicken soup.

    Your ignorance is showing again.

    --Rich

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