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  1. How much better/stronger is a Koxx devil than a Nimbus trials with
    moments?

    The frames look the same, the cranks seem pretty similar, the nimbus
    has an undrilled rim meaning heavier but stronger.

    So, my question is, is the Koxx One really superior or is it the Koxx
    effect?

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  2. the nimbus is way better than the koxx.

    The Koxx may look better... but the Nimbus with Moments is stronger.
    The Devil frame is just [censored]... i saw so many of them break, even by 13
    year old kids.

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  3. I've ridden both unis. I do prefer the feel of my nimbus with moments
    and KH street saddle to my friends koxx-one devil but this is probably
    because I'm used to it as much as anything.

    The major differences in feel are the tyre, cranks and seat. I prefer
    the maxxis CC to the try all, I prefer moments to the k1 cranks
    (probably coz I'm used to them). Moments have more Q factor, are
    probably stronger, are heavier. I don't like koxx or nimbus seats but
    both are probably pretty similar, KH is best. The nimbus seatpost is
    reinforced and the koxx isn't (I don't think).

    So, yes, when you buy a koxx you're paying for the brand and the
    colours. Even the high end koxx stuff seems to be overpriced. Nimbus
    FTW.

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  4. Nimbus. Koxx frame welds suck ass, go with the nimbus. With the money
    you save, get some parts powdercoated or a CF base. I don't like having
    penis written all over my uni🙂 .

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  5. Kyle_Destroyer said:


    So, my question is, is the Koxx One really superior or is it the Koxx
    effect?

    then why didn't you put that as the thread title? you'll get a lot more
    useful information and [censored] people off that way

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  6. kington99 said:

    then why didn't you put that as the thread title? you'll get a lot more
    useful information and [censored] people off that way

    hehe, it didn't look as much like a face as I thought it would, plus I
    figured I'd actually get MORE views.

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  7. Your thread title is like crying "I'm being robbed!" and then when
    people show up, you're just like "oh, hi, I was just lonely."

    Of course, thread titles aren't as significant, but still. Come on
    dude, don't be that way.

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  8. Danni said:

    I don't like having penis written all over my uni🙂 .

    Permission to Sigg that?

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  9. Id say nimbus and upgrade to qu-ax cranks, is your best best.

    On the other hand, for U.S riders, with the state of the dollar and
    high prices of shipping, there is a pretty good chance you may not see
    Koxx Unicycles for the price they are at now, again. So investment
    wise, I would say its a better time than any to get a tryall tire(IMO)
    the best tire available, and a K1 wheelset. Who knows what the currency
    rates will do, but if you look at what the K1 unis should be at and
    what they are from renegade you will see that its like you are saving
    150 dollars per devil.

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  10. K1>Nimbus

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  11. Almost al K1 frames are weak: bad weldings or wrong design. (still need
    to crack my XTP though)
    As for hub and cranks: they are supposed to be not ISIS, but I don't
    care.
    Atleast my K1 hubflanges don't bend like the KH, and cranks are way
    lighter then the Moment cranks.
    Rims are OK I geuss, since you can decide between drilled and
    undrilled.
    K1 also have many colour choises, wich is cool.
    Mayor thing that needs fixing about K1: management.
    Enough said, GO RIDE 😉

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    Danni said:

    I don't like having penis written all over my uni🙂 .

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    no offense but deads look plain old gross...


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  12. agentQ said:

    Id say nimbus and upgrade to qu-ax cranks, is your best best.

    On the other hand, for U.S riders, with the state of the dollar and
    high prices of shipping, there is a pretty good chance you may not see
    Koxx Unicycles for the price they are at now, again. So investment
    wise, I would say its a better time than any to get a tryall tire(IMO)
    the best tire available, and a K1 wheelset. Who knows what the currency
    rates will do, but if you look at what the K1 unis should be at and
    what they are from renegade you will see that its like you are saving
    150 dollars per devil.

    It's not only Koxx that are really cheap in the US because of the low
    US dollar. Look at the price of the nimbus compared to in Europe,
    England and New Zealand.

    And even with high shipping rates and whatever else, K1 unis are still
    a rip off. And about the try-all, it's not a fact that it's "the best
    tyre available". Many people I know prefer the Maxxis CC or Monty tyre.

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  13. SkierAlex said:

    It's not only Koxx that are really cheap in the US because of the low US
    dollar. Look at the price of the nimbus compared to in Europe, England
    and New Zealand.

    And even with high shipping rates and whatever else, K1 unis are still
    a rip off. And about the try-all, it's not a fact that it's "the best
    tyre available". Many people I know prefer the Maxxis CC or Monty tyre.

    Your confusing what I said. I was not referring to the cost of k1 unis
    in the US for other countries. Its not that K1 unis are cheap in the US
    cause the dollar is weak. They are pretty much the same price that they
    have always been. However if you convert the 350 Euros a Devil cost to
    USD now, it comes out to about $550. The Devils that Renegade have,
    they bought when the dollar was worth more, and are selling them for
    $400. U.S riders may never see a 400 dollar K1 again... Lets hope this
    is not the case, but who knows. I cant imagine paying 160 for a pair of
    street cranks. I was making the point that when and "IF" a renegade can
    afford to restock K1 unis and parts, the prices may go up.

    Also(pertaining to what you said):
    Right now is a good time for other countries, especially European
    countries, to buy US products, assuming their savings aren't lost in
    shipping.

    Those are two different situations, both linking to the currently weak
    Dollar.

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    And even with high shipping rates and whatever else

    Huh? is that supposed to be a good thing?

    Quoted message said:


    K1 unis are still a rip off.

    I dont think so. Are you saying this is Fact? Whats not good, the
    frames are supposedly weak? They will replace a broken frame. As far as
    I know there was a bad batch of Devil frames at one point, I have not
    heard of any problems from any riders in the US or anywhere else, in
    quite a while, for that matter. I have seen one pic of a broken frame
    and I am sure Koxx dealt with it. Note I am not saying there haven't
    been more problems, just that should not be considered an issue, and
    does not give you right to go around slandering one of the leading uni
    companies.

    I happen to really Like K1 products. I think what they are doing for
    the unicycle industry is awesome, and there is no reason to call their
    product a rip off. If someone wants to pay a bit more for fancy colors
    and sweet items, let them. Its not a rip off its a choice. A good
    portion of the best riders in the world are ridding Koxx-One unicycles.
    They perform well, and the company backs its products.

    Extreme unicycle is still pretty young, when ever there is innovation
    it takes time to get new ideas just exactly right. I am glad there are
    companies willing to push the limits of parts and materials to give
    riders high end parts and multiple options for what features they want
    their uni to have.

    Quoted message said:


    And about the try-all, it's not a fact that it's "the best tyre
    available". Many people I know prefer the Maxxis CC or Monty tyre.

    And about this, haha. 1. I used the IMO(in my opinion) for a reason. Of
    course not everyone is gonna have the same opinion as me about tires. I
    never clammed it was a fact. 2. I believe many more riders like the
    Tryall sticky over a CC, I am not saying no one like the CC because I
    know people do, just that more like the Tryall and will say it is a
    better performing tire. 3. It is FACT that the CC is a flawed tire and
    was claimed to be too unpredictable by the designer himself.

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  14. agentQ said:

    And about this, haha. 1. I used the IMO(in my opinion) for a reason. Of
    course not everyone is gonna have the same opinion as me about tires. I
    never clammed it was a fact. 2. I believe many more riders like the
    Tryall sticky over a CC, I am not saying no one like the CC because I
    know people do, just that more like the Tryall and will say it is a
    better performing tire. 3. It is FACT that the CC is a flawed tire and
    was claimed to be too unpredictable by the designer himself.

    You realy should try the Monty Eagle Claw: it's basicly a upgraded CC
    with all the flaws removed.

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    Danni said:

    I don't like having penis written all over my uni🙂 .

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    Townsvile is where the powerpuff girls live 🙂

    manon1wheel said:

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  15. agentQ said:

    Your confusing what I said. I was not referring to the cost of k1 unis
    in the US for other countries. Its not that K1 unis are cheap in the US
    cause the dollar is weak. They are pretty much the same price that they
    have always been. However if you convert the 350 Euros a Devil cost to
    USD now, it comes out to about $550. The Devils that Renegade have,
    they bought when the dollar was worth more, and are selling them for
    $400. U.S riders may never see a 400 dollar K1 again... Lets hope this
    is not the case, but who knows. I cant imagine paying 160 for a pair of
    street cranks. I was making the point that when and "IF" a renegade can
    afford to restock K1 unis and parts, the prices may go up.

    Also(pertaining to what you said):
    Right now is a good time for other countries, especially European
    countries, to buy US products, assuming their savings aren't lost in
    shipping.

    Those are two different situations, both linking to the currently weak
    Dollar.

    Huh? is that supposed to be a good thing?

    I dont think so. Are you saying this is Fact? Whats not good, the
    frames are supposedly weak? They will replace a broken frame. As far as
    I know there was a bad batch of Devil frames at one point, I have not
    heard of any problems from any riders in the US or anywhere else, in
    quite a while, for that matter. I have seen one pic of a broken frame
    and I am sure Koxx dealt with it. Note I am not saying there haven't
    been more problems, just that should not be considered an issue, and
    does not give you right to go around slandering one of the leading uni
    companies.

    I happen to really Like K1 products. I think what they are doing for
    the unicycle industry is awesome, and there is no reason to call their
    product a rip off. If someone wants to pay a bit more for fancy colors
    and sweet items, let them. Its not a rip off its a choice. A good
    portion of the best riders in the world are ridding Koxx-One unicycles.
    They perform well, and the company backs its products.

    Extreme unicycle is still pretty young, when ever there is innovation
    it takes time to get new ideas just exactly right. I am glad there are
    companies willing to push the limits of parts and materials to give
    riders high end parts and multiple options for what features they want
    their uni to have.

    And about this, haha. 1. I used the IMO(in my opinion) for a reason. Of
    course not everyone is gonna have the same opinion as me about tires. I
    never clammed it was a fact. 2. I believe many more riders like the
    Tryall sticky over a CC, I am not saying no one like the CC because I
    know people do, just that more like the Tryall and will say it is a
    better performing tire. 3. It is FACT that the CC is a flawed tire and
    was claimed to be too unpredictable by the designer himself.

    Good write up, and I agree.

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  16. Probailer2 said:

    You realy should try the Monty Eagle Claw: it's basicly a upgraded CC
    with all the flaws removed.

    Peter M

    Yea, I would like to try one. I bet it is awesome for natural stuff.
    Ive been ridding a slick tire a lot lately.... I really like a slick
    Luna much more than a slick tryall. So I might be looking into other
    tires besides the tryall for when I want grip. If I don't go with the
    oh so cheap Luna, it will be a Monty.

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  17. And about this, haha. 1. I used the IMO

    Oops, didn't see it. My bad.

    But basically this is how I'd some it up: Buy a koxx if the try-all is
    your favourite tyre, if you want the best tubular cranks around, or if
    you like the colour.

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  18. Yeah or you could buy a K1 because there awesome uni's. Their strong as
    hell and look cool. Honestly how can you go wrong with that
    combination?

    And how does,"buy it if you like try-all tires" make sense? You do know
    you can buy tires seperatley right?

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  19. The UniSLAB said:

    Yeah or you could buy a K1 because there awesome uni's. Their strong as
    hell and look cool. Honestly how can you go wrong with that
    combination?

    And how does,"buy it if you like try-all tires" make sense? You do know
    you can buy tires seperatley right?

    Yeah but if you read the first post you'll see we're discussing price
    since the two unis are pretty similar quality. Try-all's are expensive
    by themselves so you will save money by buying a koxx because the price
    of the try-all is included.

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  20. meh, I really want to try a Monty Eagle Claw if I can find one.

    Anyone know how to get one?

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