Question For Chapman

Nuxx Bar said:

Do you ever speed?  If so, how often approximately?

Ha ha. I see where you are going with this. Nice try but I am not that
petty thanks. That's just for me and the speed camera to know!

I'm off on a nice ride home. The weather is good and I've got a new
back tyre so can't wait.

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:53:34 -0700 (PDT), Nuxx Bar
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Do you ever speed? If so, how often approximately?

I try not to, and if I were ever caught I would not whinge about it.

Guy
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http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

Nat said:

Nuxx Bar said:

Do you ever speed?  If so, how often approximately?

Ha ha. I see where you are going with this. Nice try but I am not that
petty thanks. That's just for me and the speed camera to know!

I'm off on a nice ride home. The weather is good and I've got a new
back tyre so can't wait.

The question wasn't for you, but thanks anyway. The question was for
the impossibly vile, excruciatingly hateful Guy Chapman. You'll
notice that he's declined to give a straight answer, since the answer
is "Yes", and giving that answer would make his pro-camera arguments
look utterly hypocritical and stupid. It's just another example of
him being a slippery, horrible little man of the highest order. And
it's yet more proof that he supports cameras because he hates
motorists (except himself, because he's special). If he really
believed that cameras saved lives, and speeding was as bad as he
claimed, he wouldn't speed.

This is what I don't understand. Surely any genuinely decent person
who supported cameras would realise that Paul Smith was a
fundamentally good, honest person who genuinely wanted to make things
safer for everyone (and improve the lot of motorists at the same
time). He quite clearly didn't have a bad bone in his body. Then you
look at the likes of Spindrift and Chapman: devious, dishonest
[censored] who lie about their reasons for supporting cameras and are
absolutely not good, honest people by any stretch of the imagination.
You don't need to know anything about the camera debate to be able to
see the difference. Surely if the lead proponents of one side of the
argument are good people, and the lead proponents of the other side
are utter [censored], it's pretty clear where the truth lies.

So if you're a decent person and you're reading this, and you've
supported cameras up to now, please open your eyes, and be honest with
yourself about the kinds of people that Spindrift, Chapman and their
associates really are. It's impossible to exaggerate what awful
people they are. They don't deserve your support.

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On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:53:34 -0700 (PDT), Nuxx Bar
<[email hidden]> said in
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Quoted message said:

Do you ever speed? If so, how often approximately?

I try not to, and if I were ever caught I would not whinge about it.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

I speed on occasion, and if I'm caught I too won't whinge. Apparently I
should be campaigning for speed limits to be increased and enforcement to be
relaxed to the point where I'm not caught. This will makes things safer for
cyclists.

On 18 Apr, 08:41, "Budstaff" <[email hidden]>

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On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:53:34 -0700 (PDT), Nuxx Bar
<[email hidden]> said in
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Do you ever speed?  If so, how often approximately?

Quoted message said:

I try not to, and if I were ever caught I would not whinge about it.

Quoted message said:

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony.  Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

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85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

I speed on occasion, and if I'm caught I too won't whinge. Apparently I
should be campaigning for speed limits to be increased and enforcement to be
relaxed to the point where I'm not caught. This will makes things safer for
cyclists.

Wny do drivers need to speed anyway? They are only going to end up in
a queue of traffic and be over taken by us on our bikes anyway!

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On 18 Apr, 08:41, "Budstaff" <[email hidden]>

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"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:53:34 -0700 (PDT), Nuxx Bar
> <[email hidden]> said in
<[email hidden]>:

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>Do you ever speed? If so, how often approximately?

Quoted message said:

I try not to, and if I were ever caught I would not whinge about it.

Quoted message said:

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

Quoted message said:

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

I speed on occasion, and if I'm caught I too won't whinge. Apparently I
should be campaigning for speed limits to be increased and enforcement to
be
relaxed to the point where I'm not caught. This will makes things safer
for
cyclists.

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Wny do drivers need to speed anyway? They are only going to end up in
a queue of traffic and be over taken by us on our bikes anyway!

Not all of us have urban commutes.

On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:09:08 +0100, "Adam Lea" <[email hidden]>
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Not all of us have urban commutes.

No indeed. Some of my worst problems with "speed imperative"
drivers was during the time when I cycled 15 miles round trip from
Reading to Henley every day.

I also had massive issues with some utterly selfish and thoughtless
drivers while cycling across country from Reading to Didcot.

Overall, I think I'm glad I'm now going to be riding through London
every day :-)

Guy
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May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound