Trek 2100 Carbon?

On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:53:11 -0700 (PDT), N8N <[email hidden]>

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Would this be a good bike for just general recreational road riding?
I believe it's a 1998 model supposedly in "fantastic condition."
Wasn't looking for anything like this at all but it came up for a
price well within my discretionary spending budget. Am thinking this
bike may be more serious than I am 🙂

thanks,

Nate

That's not the sort of bike for "running to the store".......
__o | Every time I see an adult on a bicycle....
_`\(,_ | I no longer despair for the human race.
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N8N said:

Would this be a good bike for just general recreational road riding?

If you ride on sunny days with smooth roads and it fits--you'll have
plenty of fun with it. I personally wouldn't want to own just a gee
whiz fast bike as my only bike--but if it fits you and your needs, go
for it. Have a good look at the frame and fork before buying. Look for
deep scratches and cracks. If it's "well used", walk away.

landotter said:

N8N said:

Would this be a good bike for just general recreational road riding?

If you ride on sunny days with smooth roads and it fits--you'll have
plenty of fun with it. I personally wouldn't want to own just a gee
whiz fast bike as my only bike--but if it fits you and your needs, go
for it. Have a good look at the frame and fork before buying. Look for
deep scratches and cracks. If it's "well used", walk away.

Well, I *do* own a 20 year old Porsche as my "real" car, if that gives
you any kind of idea as to what makes my ears wiggle 🙂 I even put
snow tires on it in the winter, which no doubt gives the "purists"
apoplectic fits.

nate

N8N said:

Would this be a good bike for just general recreational road riding?
I believe it's a 1998 model supposedly in "fantastic condition."
Wasn't looking for anything like this at all but it came up for a
price well within my discretionary spending budget.  Am thinking this
bike may be more serious than I am 🙂

thanks,

Nate

From what I know about you and your uses/interests, I'd probably stay
away from carbon frames and low spoke count wheels. I think you were
on the right track with a Surly, or maybe a JTS. Even the cross bike
your LBS tried to sell you... something other than carbon with wheels
that have few spokes. It's kinda like having an old lotus as a daily
driver. Sure, they're fun, but as a regular driver? Then again, a
lot depends on your weight and the condition of your local roads and
paths.

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N8N said:

Would this be a good bike for just general recreational road riding?
I believe it's a 1998 model supposedly in "fantastic condition."
Wasn't looking for anything like this at all but it came up for a
price well within my discretionary spending budget.  Am thinking this
bike may be more serious than I am 🙂

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thanks,

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Nate

From what I know about you and your uses/interests, I'd probably stay
away from carbon frames and low spoke count wheels.  I think you were
on the right track with a Surly, or maybe a JTS.  Even the cross bike
your LBS tried to sell you... something other than carbon with wheels
that have few spokes.  It's kinda like having an old lotus as a daily
driver.  Sure, they're fun, but as a regular driver?  Then again, a
lot depends on your weight and the condition of your local roads and
paths.

Heh, see my last post. I have a serious jones for an Elite, know
where I could get one for cheap?

nate

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landotter said:

On Apr 8, 11:53 am, N8N <[email hidden]> wrote:

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Would this be a good bike for just general recreational road riding?

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If you ride on sunny days with smooth roads and it fits--you'll have
plenty of fun with it. I personally wouldn't want to own just a gee
whiz fast bike as my only bike--but if it fits you and your needs, go
for it. Have a good look at the frame and fork before buying. Look for
deep scratches and cracks. If it's "well used", walk away.

Well, I *do* own a 20 year old Porsche as my "real" car, if that gives
you any kind of idea as to what makes my ears wiggle 🙂  I even put
snow tires on it in the winter, which no doubt gives the "purists"
apoplectic fits.

Well, I wouldn't say that riding a 2100 is similarly idiosyncratic. A
Porsche is at least a little domesticated--it's not like you're
driving a 52 MGB.

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On Apr 8, 12:53 pm, N8N <[email hidden]> wrote:

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Would this be a good bike for just general recreational road riding?
I believe it's a 1998 model supposedly in "fantastic condition."
Wasn't looking for anything like this at all but it came up for a
price well within my discretionary spending budget. Am thinking this
bike may be more serious than I am 🙂

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thanks,

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Nate

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From what I know about you and your uses/interests, I'd probably stay
away from carbon frames and low spoke count wheels. I think you were
on the right track with a Surly, or maybe a JTS. Even the cross bike
your LBS tried to sell you... something other than carbon with wheels
that have few spokes. It's kinda like having an old lotus as a daily
driver. Sure, they're fun, but as a regular driver? Then again, a
lot depends on your weight and the condition of your local roads and
paths.

Heh, see my last post. I have a serious jones for an Elite, know
where I could get one for cheap?

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It depends what you want and what you're willing to put up with. If
you're willing to put up with avoiding pot holes, really watching
where you go, not being able to get fenders on there for when the
roads are wet, occasionally replacing spokes and truing wheels, etc.
in the name of a slightly faster and better handling bike when the
roads are good then go for it. Personally, I'd have a blast with that
bike, but I've got other bikes. It's a bit intense (finicky?) as an
only bike.

Knowing you and your car selection, this is the route I'd have
expected you to go. However, in your other tread you said you were
looking for:

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reasonably light.

The 2100 fits here.

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Able to ride most anywhere but no serious off-roading.

Maybe not so much with the 2100

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Low maintenance.

Again, maybe not so much with the 2100

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Well built enough and high enough quality components
that I won't end up getting PO'd at the shifters/DRs etc.

IME I'm more likely to get all PO'd with the super light racing stuff
than I am the traditional stuff. Then again, my fav. bike is dressed
in top of the line (although mostly many years old) gear.

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or pointed at and laughed at by other cyclists 🙂

IME this is a function of how you ride, not what you ride. Swerving
all over the road in jeans on a carbon race bike @ 8mph will get you
laughed at. Nobody laughs at the guy they can't catch, no matter what
he wears or rides.

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Cheap. (I realize that I will have to compromise on the last,
just not sure how much.)

Cheap is subjective. Depending on what you weigh and this bikes
previous life, it could end up being cheap, or it could end up being
more expensive than a brand new and very reliable bike. Your roads
and weight are a key factor. I weight 200lbs and ride off curbs, over
bumps, through trails, etc. That 2100 wouldn't stand a chance with me.

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On Apr 8, 12:53 pm, N8N <[email hidden]> wrote:

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Would this be a good bike for just general recreational road riding?
I believe it's a 1998 model supposedly in "fantastic condition."
Wasn't looking for anything like this at all but it came up for a
price well within my discretionary spending budget.  Am thinking this
bike may be more serious than I am 🙂

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thanks,

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Nate

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From what I know about you and your uses/interests, I'd probably stay
away from carbon frames and low spoke count wheels.  I think you were
on the right track with a Surly, or maybe a JTS.  Even the cross bike
your LBS tried to sell you... something other than carbon with wheels
that have few spokes.  It's kinda like having an old lotus as a daily
driver.  Sure, they're fun, but as a regular driver?  Then again, a
lot depends on your weight and the condition of your local roads and
paths.

Heh, see my last post.  I have a serious jones for an Elite, know
where I could get one for cheap?

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Do you know what size frame you want? Here's a couple to glance at:
http://tinyurl.com/5gj7a7 & http://tinyurl.com/6z5qw9

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> Would this be a good bike for just general recreational road riding?
> I believe it's a 1998 model supposedly in "fantastic condition."
> Wasn't looking for anything like this at all but it came up for a
> price well within my discretionary spending budget.  Am thinking this
> bike may be more serious than I am 🙂

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> Nate

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From what I know about you and your uses/interests, I'd probably stay
away from carbon frames and low spoke count wheels.  I think you were
on the right track with a Surly, or maybe a JTS.  Even the cross bike
your LBS tried to sell you... something other than carbon with wheels
that have few spokes.  It's kinda like having an old lotus as a daily
driver.  Sure, they're fun, but as a regular driver?  Then again, a
lot depends on your weight and the condition of your local roads and
paths.

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Heh, see my last post.  I have a serious jones for an Elite, know
where I could get one for cheap?

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Do you know what size frame you want?  Here's a couple to glance at:http://tinyurl.com/5gj7a7&http://tinyurl.com/6z5qw9

Yup. Nothing wrong with either of those. Good basic metal road bikes.
Catch the bug? Then buy another bike perhaps, after riding a while and
focusing your needs. Get bored with it? Unload the bike on craigslist
and lose nothing.

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> Would this be a good bike for just general recreational road riding?
> I believe it's a 1998 model supposedly in "fantastic condition."
> Wasn't looking for anything like this at all but it came up for a
> price well within my discretionary spending budget.  Am thinking this
> bike may be more serious than I am 🙂

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From what I know about you and your uses/interests, I'd probably stay
away from carbon frames and low spoke count wheels.  I think you were
on the right track with a Surly, or maybe a JTS.  Even the cross bike
your LBS tried to sell you... something other than carbon with wheels
that have few spokes.  It's kinda like having an old lotus as a daily
driver.  Sure, they're fun, but as a regular driver?  Then again, a
lot depends on your weight and the condition of your local roads and
paths.

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Heh, see my last post.  I have a serious jones for an Elite, know
where I could get one for cheap?

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Do you know what size frame you want?  Here's a couple to glance at:http://tinyurl.com/5gj7a7&http://tinyurl.com/6z5qw9- Hide quoted text -

i'm thinking I need probably either a 56 or 57cm. The Fuji I was
looking at at my LBS was a 58cm frame and it just felt too big.
Certain portions of my anatomy were quivering in fear when I tried to
put my feet flat on the ground.

nate

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> > Would this be a good bike for just general recreational road riding?
> > I believe it's a 1998 model supposedly in "fantastic condition."
> > Wasn't looking for anything like this at all but it came up for a
> > price well within my discretionary spending budget.  Am thinkingthis
> > bike may be more serious than I am 🙂

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> From what I know about you and your uses/interests, I'd probably stay
> away from carbon frames and low spoke count wheels.  I think you were
> on the right track with a Surly, or maybe a JTS.  Even the cross bike
> your LBS tried to sell you... something other than carbon with wheels
> that have few spokes.  It's kinda like having an old lotus as a daily
> driver.  Sure, they're fun, but as a regular driver?  Then again, a
> lot depends on your weight and the condition of your local roads and
> paths.

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Heh, see my last post.  I have a serious jones for an Elite, know
where I could get one for cheap?

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Do you know what size frame you want?  Here's a couple to glance at:http://tinyurl.com/5gj7a7&http://tinyurl.com/6z5qw9-Hide quoted text -

i'm thinking I need probably either a 56 or 57cm.  The Fuji I was
looking at at my LBS was a 58cm frame and it just felt too big.
Certain portions of my anatomy were quivering in fear when I tried to
put my feet flat on the ground.

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OK, in that case the 2 I linked are too big. They're still more along
the lines of what I'd be looking for if I were you.

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> Would this be a good bike for just general recreational road riding?

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If you ride on sunny days with smooth roads and it fits--you'll have
plenty of fun with it. I personally wouldn't want to own just a gee
whiz fast bike as my only bike--but if it fits you and your needs, go
for it. Have a good look at the frame and fork before buying. Look for
deep scratches and cracks. If it's "well used", walk away.

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Well, I *do* own a 20 year old Porsche as my "real" car, if that gives
you any kind of idea as to what makes my ears wiggle 🙂  I even put
snow tires on it in the winter, which no doubt gives the "purists"
apoplectic fits.

Well, I wouldn't say that riding a 2100 is similarly idiosyncratic. A
Porsche is at least a little domesticated--it's not like you're
driving a 52 MGB.

(thread digression) wouldn't a '52 be a TD not a B? I'd probably find
it too slow (says the guy who drives a 944, but this is all
hypothetical, right?) but I wouldn't kick a TR-6 or Austin Healey out
of my driveway for leaking oil.

hmm, actually I can't kick anything out of my driveway for leaking
oil, as my current rides are the P-car, a '55 Studebaker, and an old
Ford pickup, none of which are particularly well known for fluid
retention. I think the Studebaker may actually be the dryest of the
lot 🙁

Now that you mention it, there *is* an old MGA sitting in some guy's
driveway down the street, and I haven't seen it move in a year and a
half... must... resist... temptation...

nate

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> > > Would this be a good bike for just general recreational road riding?
> > > I believe it's a 1998 model supposedly in "fantastic condition."
> > > Wasn't looking for anything like this at all but it came up for a
> > > price well within my discretionary spending budget.  Am thinking this
> > > bike may be more serious than I am 🙂

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> > From what I know about you and your uses/interests, I'd probably stay
> > away from carbon frames and low spoke count wheels.  I think youwere
> > on the right track with a Surly, or maybe a JTS.  Even the crossbike
> > your LBS tried to sell you... something other than carbon with wheels
> > that have few spokes.  It's kinda like having an old lotus as a daily
> > driver.  Sure, they're fun, but as a regular driver?  Then again, a
> > lot depends on your weight and the condition of your local roads and
> > paths.

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> Heh, see my last post.  I have a serious jones for an Elite, know
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i'm thinking I need probably either a 56 or 57cm.  The Fuji I was
looking at at my LBS was a 58cm frame and it just felt too big.
Certain portions of my anatomy were quivering in fear when I tried to
put my feet flat on the ground.

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OK, in that case the 2 I linked are too big.  They're still more along
the lines of what I'd be looking for if I were you.

Yeah, that was kind of what I was looking for as well, but the 2100 is
similarly priced, is why it caught my eye. I'm pretty much a sucker
for anything high performance. You should see some of the stupid
stuff I've done to my cars.

I'm trying to show restraint here, but i'm not sure how successful
I'll be 🙂

nate

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>>>>Would this be a good bike for just general recreational road riding?
>>>>I believe it's a 1998 model supposedly in "fantastic condition."
>>>>Wasn't looking for anything like this at all but it came up for a
>>>>price well within my discretionary spending budget. Am thinking this
>>>>bike may be more serious than I am 🙂

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>>>>Nate

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>>>From what I know about you and your uses/interests, I'd probably stay
>>>away from carbon frames and low spoke count wheels. I think you were
>>>on the right track with a Surly, or maybe a JTS. Even the cross bike
>>>your LBS tried to sell you... something other than carbon with wheels
>>>that have few spokes. It's kinda like having an old lotus as a daily
>>>driver. Sure, they're fun, but as a regular driver? Then again, a
>>>lot depends on your weight and the condition of your local roads and
>>>paths.

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>>Heh, see my last post. I have a serious jones for an Elite, know
>>where I could get one for cheap?

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i'm thinking I need probably either a 56 or 57cm. The Fuji I was
looking at at my LBS was a 58cm frame and it just felt too big.
Certain portions of my anatomy were quivering in fear when I tried to
put my feet flat on the ground.

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OK, in that case the 2 I linked are too big. They're still more along
the lines of what I'd be looking for if I were you.

Yeah, that was kind of what I was looking for as well, but the 2100 is
similarly priced, is why it caught my eye. I'm pretty much a sucker
for anything high performance. You should see some of the stupid
stuff I've done to my cars.

I'm trying to show restraint here, but i'm not sure how successful
I'll be 🙂

nate

Hmmm... took the POS bike for a real-ish ride today (dropped car off for
a tire balance and oil change, just threw the bike in the hatch rather
than wait for SWMBO to come home and pick me up) my knees hurt. I think
it's too small, even with the seat jacked up. Makes sense as the PO was
about 3" shorter than I. Makes me want to buy something.

I'm hoping that I come to my senses otherwise people are going to be
asking "who's that chubby poser on that nice bike?" If they notice at
all, that is.

nate

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landotter said:

N8N said:

Would this be a good bike for just general recreational road riding?

If you ride on sunny days with smooth roads and it fits--you'll have
plenty of fun with it. I personally wouldn't want to own just a gee
whiz fast bike as my only bike--but if it fits you and your needs, go
for it. Have a good look at the frame and fork before buying. Look for
deep scratches and cracks. If it's "well used", walk away.

Well, I *do* own a 20 year old Porsche as my "real" car, if that gives
you any kind of idea as to what makes my ears wiggle 🙂 I even put
snow tires on it in the winter, which no doubt gives the "purists"
apoplectic fits.

This is what a vintage Porsche would look like if you drove around here
for a few winters:
<http://content.leenks.com/pics/2008/oldexotics/oldexotics-6.jpg>.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

N8N aka Nate Nagel said:

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N8N said:

On Apr 8, 1:35 pm, landotter <[email hidden]> wrote:
> On Apr 8, 11:53 am, N8N <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> Would this be a good bike for just general recreational road riding?
> If you ride on sunny days with smooth roads and it fits--you'll have
> plenty of fun with it. I personally wouldn't want to own just a gee
> whiz fast bike as my only bike--but if it fits you and your needs, go
> for it. Have a good look at the frame and fork before buying. Look for
> deep scratches and cracks. If it's "well used", walk away.
Well, I *do* own a 20 year old Porsche as my "real" car, if that gives
you any kind of idea as to what makes my ears wiggle 🙂 I even put
snow tires on it in the winter, which no doubt gives the "purists"
apoplectic fits.

Well, I wouldn't say that riding a 2100 is similarly idiosyncratic. A
Porsche is at least a little domesticated--it's not like you're
driving a 52 MGB.

(thread digression) wouldn't a '52 be a TD not a B? I'd probably find
it too slow (says the guy who drives a 944, but this is all
hypothetical, right?) but I wouldn't kick a TR-6 or Austin Healey out
of my driveway for leaking oil.

hmm, actually I can't kick anything out of my driveway for leaking
oil, as my current rides are the P-car, a '55 Studebaker, and an old
Ford pickup, none of which are particularly well known for fluid
retention. I think the Studebaker may actually be the dryest of the
lot 🙁

I beat my 1994 Civic Si for 160,000 miles with no measurable oil usage.
The SRAM 3x7 hub on my RANS Tailwind uses more oil.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

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>>>>>I believe it's a 1998 model supposedly in "fantastic condition."
>>>>>Wasn't looking for anything like this at all but it came up for a
>>>>>price well within my discretionary spending budget. Am thinking this
>>>>>bike may be more serious than I am 🙂

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>>>>From what I know about you and your uses/interests, I'd probably stay
>>>>away from carbon frames and low spoke count wheels. I think you were
>>>>on the right track with a Surly, or maybe a JTS. Even the cross bike
>>>>your LBS tried to sell you... something other than carbon with wheels
>>>>that have few spokes. It's kinda like having an old lotus as a daily
>>>>driver. Sure, they're fun, but as a regular driver? Then again, a
>>>>lot depends on your weight and the condition of your local roads and
>>>>paths.

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>i'm thinking I need probably either a 56 or 57cm. The Fuji I was
>looking at at my LBS was a 58cm frame and it just felt too big.
>Certain portions of my anatomy were quivering in fear when I tried to
>put my feet flat on the ground.

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OK, in that case the 2 I linked are too big. They're still more along
the lines of what I'd be looking for if I were you.

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Yeah, that was kind of what I was looking for as well, but the 2100 is
similarly priced, is why it caught my eye. I'm pretty much a sucker
for anything high performance. You should see some of the stupid
stuff I've done to my cars.

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I'm trying to show restraint here, but i'm not sure how successful
I'll be 🙂

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nate

Hmmm... took the POS bike for a real-ish ride today (dropped car off for
a tire balance and oil change, just threw the bike in the hatch rather
than wait for SWMBO to come home and pick me up) my knees hurt. I think
it's too small, even with the seat jacked up. Makes sense as the PO was
about 3" shorter than I. Makes me want to buy something.

You maintain the Stude and yet the shop changes the oil on the FBP?
Never would have seen that coming. Then again, when it's cold and wet
out my mechanic changes my oil too.

Anyway, congrats on the ride. Ride that thing as much as you can
before you get your next bike, you'll appreciate the difference that
much more.

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I'm hoping that I come to my senses otherwise people are going to be
asking "who's that chubby poser on that nice bike?" If they notice at
all, that is.

Nothing wrong with being a chubby guy on a bike. Hell, I know some
really fast chubby guys.

Fit makes a huge difference, and your knees will be one of the first
places to notice. Some fit issues can be addressed with seat position
and/or a new stem, but a bike that really doesn't fit just won't fit.
One of the nice things about buying a bike from a shop is a good shop
can and will properly fit you to a bike. However, in my area less
than half the shops I know of do that. A quick standover is not a
fit, by the way.

So I'm guessing you to be 5'7 or 5'8ish, give or take a bit in either
direction, to want a 56/57 frame. Depending you your version of
chubby, you might be pushing the weight limit of that 2100, especially
the wheels. Like I said, if you don't mind having to wrench it and
take care of it all the more power to you, have a blast. I'd probably
buy it if it was cheap enough, though it'd have to be real, real cheap
to get me to buy a 10 year old weight-weenie model.

Did you take a gander at this one? http://tinyurl.com/3vpmsj If
you really want something racy, you could do worse. I have a feeling
you'll be replacing spokes semi-regularly or getting new wheels, but
overall it's not a bad bike. It takes at least 32c tires, which is
nice. It's got a triple (3 sprockets up front) for the hills. Aside
from the low spoke count I like it a lot. Then again, I weight in @
200lbs and encounter bumps, potholes, curbs, etc. so I really don't
like low spoke wheels. YMMV.

On Apr 9, 1:36 am, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>

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On Apr 8, 12:46 pm, N8N <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> On Apr 8, 1:35 pm, landotter <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> On Apr 8, 11:53 am, N8N <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>> Would this be a good bike for just general recreational road riding?
>> If you ride on sunny days with smooth roads and it fits--you'll have
>> plenty of fun with it. I personally wouldn't want to own just a gee
>> whiz fast bike as my only bike--but if it fits you and your needs, go
>> for it. Have a good look at the frame and fork before buying. Look for
>> deep scratches and cracks. If it's "well used", walk away.
> Well, I *do* own a 20 year old Porsche as my "real" car, if that gives
> you any kind of idea as to what makes my ears wiggle 🙂  I even put
> snow tires on it in the winter, which no doubt gives the "purists"
> apoplectic fits.
Well, I wouldn't say that riding a2100is similarly idiosyncratic. A
Porsche is at least a little domesticated--it's not like you're
driving a 52 MGB.

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(thread digression) wouldn't a '52 be a TD not a B?  I'd probably find
it too slow (says the guy who drives a 944, but this is all
hypothetical, right?) but I wouldn't kick a TR-6 or Austin Healey out
of my driveway for leaking oil.

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hmm, actually I can't kick anything out of my driveway for leaking
oil, as my current rides are the P-car, a '55 Studebaker, and an old
Ford pickup, none of which are particularly well known for fluid
retention.  I think the Studebaker may actually be the dryest of the
lot 🙁

I beat my 1994 Civic Si for 160,000 miles with no measurable oil usage.
The SRAM 3x7 hub on my RANS Tailwind uses more oil.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Heh, that's still a new car <G> I think most of mine leak more than
they burn, honestly. I just haven't been able to justify tearing down
a perfectly good engine just to replace gaskets - last time I did that
I ended up swapping the entire drivetrain (motor, transmission,
driveshaft, and rear end) in the car for something a little more
sporty before I got it all back together.

nate

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> Would this be a good bike for just general recreational road riding?
If you ride on sunny days with smooth roads and it fits--you'll have
plenty of fun with it. I personally wouldn't want to own just a gee
whiz fast bike as my only bike--but if it fits you and your needs, go
for it. Have a good look at the frame and fork before buying. Look for
deep scratches and cracks. If it's "well used", walk away.

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Well, I *do* own a 20 year old Porsche as my "real" car, if that gives
you any kind of idea as to what makes my ears wiggle 🙂  I even put
snow tires on it in the winter, which no doubt gives the "purists"
apoplectic fits.

This is what a vintage Porsche would look like if you drove around here
for a few winters:
<http://content.leenks.com/pics/2008/oldexotics/oldexotics-6.jpg>.

Can't see your pic at work and it's probably just as well...

truth is, that since the mid-70s Porsche has used all galvanized steel
as well as adding that typical German paraffin undercoating, so
they're actually fairly rust resistant as far as car bodies go.
Actually surprisingly practical, if you can just get past the cost of
parts.

Of course a VW GTI or Scirocco is 90% of the fun for 50% of the cost,
but I never said that all my purchasing decisions made perfect sense.

nate