Bye bye, gasoline!

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Do you think we'll see the TOTAL depletion of gasoline in our
lifetimes?

I've been thinking about this, and Ithere's no doubt that gasoline
will eventually become something exclusively for the wealthy. However,
because it's a finite resource, no doubt, it will run out. But I
wonder If I'll actually see this happen?

Do you think people will resort to using animals again?

Donkeys will be the Honda civics and thoroughbreds will be the
Cadillacs. They'll have animal bathrooms like today's rest stops.

I wonder what drive-in Movie theatres will look like?

Cully_J

You do realize that gasoline powered vehicles also deliver food, mail,
blood to hospitals and soforth right?

It's impossible to retool to using animals without a drastic reduction
in population - say 80%.

Feeling jocular, now? 🙂

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Do you think we'll see the TOTAL depletion of gasoline in our
lifetimes?

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I don't think we will see a total depletion. What is more plausible is that
as the price goes up, crude oil will go less and less into fueling our cars,
and more and more into the manufacture of plastics, paint and lubricants.
Burning it for energy is really the lowest grade use. Also, after its use
as an auto fuel becomes prohibitive (except, as you say, for the wealthy)
gasoline will still be used for chainsaws, lawnmowers, outboard motors, and
yes--motorbikes.
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(clip) Do you think people will resort to using animals again? (clip)
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The Jewish prohibition against using milk and meat together derives from the
admonition not to cook a calf in its mother's milk. Shouldn't there be a
similar prohibition against making harness out of horse hide?

Quoted message said:

Do you think we'll see the TOTAL depletion of gasoline in our
lifetimes?

I've been thinking about this, and Ithere's no doubt that gasoline
will eventually become something exclusively for the wealthy. However,
because it's a finite resource, no doubt, it will run out. But I
wonder If I'll actually see this happen?

Do you think people will resort to using animals again?

Donkeys will be the Honda civics and thoroughbreds will be the
Cadillacs. They'll have animal bathrooms like today's rest stops.

I wonder what drive-in Movie theatres will look like?

Cully_J

Don't know. Just watch where you step.

Quoted message said:

Do you think we'll see the TOTAL depletion of gasoline in our lifetimes?

I've been thinking about this, and Ithere's no doubt that gasoline will
eventually become something exclusively for the wealthy.

By worldwide standards, it already is, and always has been, exclusively
for the wealthy.

Matt O.

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Quoted post said:

Do you think we'll see the TOTAL depletion of gasoline in our
lifetimes?

I doubt it. There's supposedly over a 100 years worth of oil in US oil
shale. Canada supposedly has a much larger amount in tar sands. The
technology has existed for a long time to tap this resource (the Germans
did it in WWII).

Quoted message said:

Do you think we'll see the TOTAL depletion of gasoline in our
lifetimes?

I've been thinking about this, and Ithere's no doubt that gasoline
will eventually become something exclusively for the wealthy. However,
because it's a finite resource, no doubt, it will run out. But I
wonder If I'll actually see this happen?

Do you think people will resort to using animals again?

Donkeys will be the Honda civics and thoroughbreds will be the
Cadillacs. They'll have animal bathrooms like today's rest stops.

I wonder what drive-in Movie theatres will look like?

Cully_J

Probably not likely to happen in our lifetimes, unless you happen to be
1 year old.

There is still oil to be had. It's just that the oil that is left is
getting harder to get to. And the harder it is to get to makes it more
expensive.

Electric and bio-fuels are the wave of the future for motor vehicles.

EasyCompany said:

email hidden said:

Do you think we'll see the TOTAL depletion of gasoline in our
lifetimes?

I've been thinking about this, and Ithere's no doubt that gasoline
will eventually become something exclusively for the wealthy. However,
because it's a finite resource, no doubt, it will run out. But I
wonder If I'll actually see this happen?

Do you think people will resort to using animals again?

Donkeys will be the Honda civics and thoroughbreds will be the
Cadillacs. They'll have animal bathrooms like today's rest stops.

I wonder what drive-in Movie theatres will look like?

Cully_J

You do realize that gasoline powered vehicles also deliver food, mail,
blood to hospitals and soforth right?

It's impossible to retool to using animals without a drastic reduction
in population - say 80%.

Feeling jocular, now? 🙂

I expect the hominid population reduction will be more on the order of
90 to 100 percent.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

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EasyCompany said:

You do realize that gasoline powered vehicles also deliver food, mail,
blood to hospitals and soforth right?

It's impossible to retool to using animals without a drastic reduction
in population - say 80%.

Maybe an IC engine that runs on whale oil could be developed.
It would be carbon-neutral ->😉

cheers,
Tom

--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

"Tom Keats" wrote: Maybe an IC engine that runs on whale oil could be
developed.

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It would be carbon-neutral ->😉

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If the Navy keeps using their low frequency sonic tracking system, there may
not be enough whales left to even run oil lamps.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Leo Lichtman said:

"Tom Keats" wrote: Maybe an IC engine that runs on whale oil could be
developed.

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It would be carbon-neutral ->😉

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If the Navy keeps using their low frequency sonic tracking system, there may
not be enough whales left to even run oil lamps.

When the whales beach themselves, they
could be salvaged for their oil.

Heck, we don't even have to terrorize/chase/harpoon 'em.

And if there're not enough whales to satisfy our demand
for convenient energy, we can clone 'em. Don't even
have to clone the complete whale, just the oil-bearing
tissues & organs.

cheers, & I've never met a whale I didn't like,
Tom

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Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

EasyCompany said:

You do realize that gasoline powered vehicles also deliver food, mail,
blood to hospitals and soforth right?

It's impossible to retool to using animals without a drastic reduction
in population - say 80%.

Yeah, well, it may happen if we don't start dealing with the issue, like
NOW!

The way I see it, we can either start planning and making chages now
while energy is still relatively cheap and intense research possible,
making the transition to a sustainable energy economy in a relatively
smooth manner, or we can pretend that the magic oil fairies will show
us how to tap the pure petroleum core of our planet we all just *know*
is in there 'cause we just can't imagine life without petroleum... and
when it doesn't happen the 80% of the human population that can't afford
food and shelter will die off... and then we can use animals just like
above!

I know which world I'd rather live in.

--

John ([email hidden])

Tom Keats said:

Maybe an IC engine that runs on whale oil could be developed.
It would be carbon-neutral ->😉

Maybe carbon-neutral but not sustainable, so why bother?

--

John ([email hidden])

Matt O'Toole said:

Quoted message said:

I've been thinking about this, and Ithere's no doubt that gasoline will
eventually become something exclusively for the wealthy.

Quoted message said:

By worldwide standards, it already is, and always has been, exclusively
for the wealthy.

Excellent point.

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John ([email hidden])

On 2008-04-04, Larry Dickman <[email hidden]> wrote:> In article

Quoted message said:

There's supposedly over a 100 years worth of oil in US oil
shale. Canada supposedly has a much larger amount in tar sands. The
technology has existed for a long time to tap this resource (the Germans
did it in WWII).

But at what cost? Extracting fuel from tar sands is both energy intesive
and highly degrading to the environment. Is it truly worth it for only a
few more decades worth of petroleum? Wouldn't a truly sustainable
solution be better? We're going to have to come up with one eventually;
better to start planning for it now when we still have the wealth and
resources to make some progress.

--

John ([email hidden])

In article <[email hidden]>,

John Thompson said:

Tom Keats said:

Maybe an IC engine that runs on whale oil could be developed.
It would be carbon-neutral ->😉

Maybe carbon-neutral but not sustainable, so why bother?

Heck, the current status quo isn't sustainable, so
why bother?

I guess you don't know what the ->😉 emoticon means.
I'm not surprised; it's fairly obscure.
FWIW, it indicates: "tongue-in-cheek."

Anyways, the Korporate Kloning industry and the latest
incarnation of Monsanto could have a field day. I'm
sure those pony-boy goofs are chomphfing at the bit
right now. Everybody knows that stored energy is more
concentrated in zoological than in botanical life forms.

Mark my words: when petroleum becomes too expensive
to extract, people will be starting up their engines
to do chips/smokes/beer runs at the expense of the
misery of fellow animals, not sunflowers or canola
or sugar cane.

Who feels jocular?

cheers,
Tom
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Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

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... gasoline will eventually become something exclusively
for the wealthy.

By worldwide standards, it already is, and always has been,
exclusively for the wealthy.

Excellent point.

=v= I agree, though unfortunately there are those who will
take this point to bolster the image that car ownership and
driving are a good measure of true wealth. And status.
<_Jym_>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Do you think we'll see the TOTAL depletion of gasoline in
our lifetimes?

I doubt it. There's supposedly over a 100 years worth of oil
in US oil shale. Canada supposedly has a much larger amount
in tar sands.

=v= No, not total depletion. The Peak Oil scenario isn't about
100% depletion, it's about hitting the 50% point.

=v= This doesn't mean all is well and fine, though. It means
that the prevailing trend will be higher and higher costs; and
since it takes energy to *do* that extraction, a multiplying
effect will occur.
<_Jym_>

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Maybe an IC engine that runs on whale oil could be
developed. It would be carbon-neutral ->😉

Quoted message said:

I guess you don't know what the ->😉 emoticon means.
I'm not surprised; it's fairly obscure.
FWIW, it indicates: "tongue-in-cheek."

=v= Is there a "You Stole That From _Futurama_" emoticon?
Fess up,
<_Jym_>