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  1. The scientific method per se may not be a religion, but the culture and society of science functions
    exactly like any other cult. Why? Because scientists are human, and some of them are stupid and
    shallow, just like everyone else. And the stupidest and shallowest reside in this BB. They defend
    their cult at all costs. Everyone who uses epistomologies or believes in realities outside of their
    cult are attacked. Their science fundamentalism is devoid of ethics. They are the fundamentalists of
    the science cult.

    Sorry, but I rarely read or respond to other posts, particularly those coming from debunker
    cultists. But I do enjoy seeing scads of posts in response to my posts, and I know that they are
    coming from debunker cultists who have had their feathers ruffled. If the shoe fits, wear it. I love
    stirring up wasps nests when the wasps can't touch me.

    There are other ways of knowing besides double blind, crossover, randomized, very expensive
    experiments. There are other realities besides materialism. The appeal to scientific authority is
    not scientific.

    People do have mind sets, no matter how many letters they have after their names. Witness the
    numerous scientific revolutions in which the establishment dug in their heels and called the
    revolutionaries names as bad as have been tossed around here.

    I am still having fun.

  2. hotmoon hypocritically said:

    I love stirring up wasps nests when the wasps can't touch me.

    Yet you ask in previous posts : "So why fret so much if someone disagrees with you about health. I
    find it incredibly ironic to maliciously slam someone else who disagrees with one. The physical
    health will not matter in a few decades, but the malicious intent will stay with you for an
    incredibly long and painful time"

    and : "I can assure you, there is an afterlife. And you won't be able to take your health with you.
    You will be taking with you how you have treated others and upon what feelings/intentions you have
    acted. If you slam people, including people in this forum, with extreme malice, then that is the bed
    that you will be laying in after your body expires.

    How ironic it is that people slam others with extreme malice over disagreements about things that
    are going to pass away, that do not last. What you do to others will last much longer in your
    experience than your physical health.

    Quoted message said:

    I am still having fun.

    You're a troll then?

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    hotmoon said:

    The scientific method per se may not be a religion, but the culture and society of science
    functions exactly like any other cult. Why? Because scientists are human, and some of them are
    stupid and shallow, just like everyone else. And the stupidest and shallowest reside in this BB.
    They defend their cult at all costs. Everyone who uses epistomologies or believes in realities
    outside of their cult are attacked. Their science fundamentalism is devoid of ethics. They are the
    fundamentalists of the science cult.

    But people who are devoid of ethics are quite rare (alas, they are not extinct). Sure, scientists
    can be as blinkered as anyone else, and they can have their pet ideas and theories and hang onto
    them like grim death. Scientists are still human beings, with all the frailties thereof. But their
    ideas and theories and data and evidence must be presented for all to see, and others can try to
    reproduce the evidence. If they can't, the theory may go down the drain. That's where science parts
    company with religion.

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry, but I rarely read or respond to other posts, particularly those coming from debunker
    cultists.

    your high horse and announce that you're superior to others and that you don't need to be bothered
    by reading what they have to say, why should anyone bother reading what *you* have to say? Sticking
    your fingers in your ears and screaming "I can't hear you" is not the hallmark of any sort of
    intelligent debate.

    Quoted message said:

    But I do enjoy seeing scads of posts in response to my posts,

    Puffing up your weak little ego? That's what one other poster just accused me of.

    Quoted message said:

    and I know that they are coming from debunker cultists who have had their feathers ruffled. If the
    shoe fits, wear it. I love stirring up wasps nests when the wasps can't touch me.

    So you're basically a coward. How inspirational.

    Quoted message said:

    There are other ways of knowing besides double blind, crossover, randomized, very expensive
    experiments. There are other realities besides materialism. The appeal to scientific authority is
    not scientific.

    You have to start somewhere. And if the other "ways of knowing" are not transferrable, they aren't
    science, either. I've seen stuff while doing meditation that I can't explain in any sort of
    rational, scientific way except via coincidence or self-delusion or something, but it's been
    nonetheless useful and helpful to me. (And no, I am not going to go into greater detail about it.)

    Quoted message said:

    People do have mind sets, no matter how many letters they have after their names. Witness the
    numerous scientific revolutions in which the establishment dug in their heels and called the
    revolutionaries names as bad as have been tossed around here.

    I am still having fun.

    How nice for you. And here we have the exact same behavior I was just chastised for, making remarks
    that would "put me on the floor," so to speak. And the person who said that had the gall to refer to
    your "valuable" posting. Hahahaha.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always
    correct. "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my
    shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  4. "hotmoon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry, but I rarely read or respond to other posts, particularly those coming from debunker
    cultists. But I do enjoy seeing scads of posts in response to my posts

    Yes Roger, you're a confirmed narcissist. You have been since you first appeared with stories about
    fantasic diseases and the evils of modern science, often talking about the various ways you'd saved
    your wife and daughter from with your brilliance. In fact, one of the few people you respond to is
    *yourself*. I recall, with great hilarity, a post that you liked so much that you repeated it. And
    stated that it was your infatuation with your own words that caused you to do it. Now, certain
    people think we're being too tough on you, so I'll go easy and give the benefit of the doubt that
    you're as godlike as you claim. For now..

    le moo

  5. Tell us if you are still having fun, when you get sick and try to heal yourself with (pick
    one or all)
    a. drinking urine
    b. ginsing
    c. chiropractic
    d. homeopathic
    e. chelation
    f. negatively charged water
    g.

    Anything else that I did not list?
    h.

    dickinson said:
    hotmoon hypocritically said:

    I love stirring up wasps nests when the wasps can't touch me.

    Yet you ask in previous posts : "So why fret so much if someone disagrees with you about health. I
    find it incredibly ironic to maliciously slam someone else who disagrees with one. The physical
    health will not matter in a few decades, but the malicious intent will stay with you for an
    incredibly long and painful time"

    and : "I can assure you, there is an afterlife. And you won't be able to take your health with
    you. You will be taking with you how you have treated others and upon what feelings/intentions you
    have acted. If you slam people, including people in this forum, with extreme malice, then that is
    the bed that you will be laying in after your body expires.

    How ironic it is that people slam others with extreme malice over disagreements about things that
    are going to pass away, that do not last. What you do to others will last much longer in your
    experience than your physical health.

    Quoted message said:

    I am still having fun.

    You're a troll then?

  6. Jan scribed in the manner befitting a hate-filled racist bigot when the
    post wasn't addressed to her:

    <snip mad dog growling>

    Wazza matter Jan? Think you have to take on the role of answering posts addressed to others in order
    to satiate your need for attention, irrespective of whether that attention is negative or
    not?..........sad, sad woman!........Oh! and don't pray for me as you do for Rich, you stupid,
    pretentious bigot.

  7. Well Jan, As to serious medical problems

    1968 Hepatitis spent 13 days in Ben Taub hospital (Houston, Tx, My thanks to an excellent
    hospital. (rejected homeopathic medicine)

    1978 Ankle operation (rejected chiropratic)

    1986 ACL knee operation (rejected chiropractic)

    1995 Radioactive treatment for hyperthyroid (I suppose I could have tried drinking a
    baby's urine for this, considered it and decided too mainstream alternative medicine)
    Treatment Synthroid

    2002 Angiogram/chest pains (rejected chelation) Treatment Zocor and Plavix

    BTW am very interested in the new reports on cholesterol treatment.

    j.

    Please note that all of my serious medical issues were answered and answered well by medical
    professionals.

    If you have a serious unanswered medical problem, perhaps you haven't asked the right people for
    the answer.

    Jan said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Sorry again From: Say not the Struggle nought Availeth [email hidden] Date:
    11/5/2003 3:44 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    Tell us if you are still having fun, when you get sick and try to heal yourself with (pick
    one or all)
    a. drinking urine
    b. ginsing
    c. chiropractic
    d. homeopathic
    e. chelation
    f. negatively charged water
    g.

    Anything else that I did not list?
    j.

    Yes, you forgot to tell us of your actual experience. Got any?

    Ever had a need for Chiropractic??

    Ever had a need for chelation?

    Ever had a serious unanswered health problem??

    Now, to cover the trolls post.

    Quoted message said:

    dickinson wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    hotmoon hypocritically wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I love stirring up wasps nests when the wasps can't touch me.

    Yet you ask in previous posts : "So why fret so much if someone disagrees with you about health.
    I find it incredibly ironic to maliciously slam someone else who disagrees with one.

    This comes from dickinson??????

    *HE* is calling others a hyprocrite???

    Quoted message said:

    The physical health will not matter in a few

    Quoted message said:

    decades, but the malicious intent will stay with you for an incredibly long and painful time"

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and : "I can assure you, there is an afterlife. And you won't be able to take your health with
    you. You will be taking with you how you have treated others and upon what feelings/intentions
    you have acted.

    Quoted message said:

    If you slam people, including people in this forum, with extreme malice,

    Quoted message said:

    then that is the bed that you will be laying in after your body expires.

    Quoted message said:

    How ironic it is that people slam others with extreme malice over

    Quoted message said:

    disagreements about things that are going to pass away, that do not last. What you do to others
    will last much longer in your experience than your physical health.

    Quoted message said:

    I am still having fun.

    Quoted message said:


    You're a troll then?

    WOW!!!

    Among dickinson first posts here:

    *there are times when it may be neccessary to choose that manner of speaking in order to draw the
    recipient out from up their own [censored]. You are so far up yourself, I'm surprised that you don't
    dissapear completely.*

    Nuff said.

    Jan

  8. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Will FDA Recall Synthroid?

    No, they won't [didn't].

    Quoted message said:


    June 3, 2001

    Note the dateline. NOW, in 2003, synthroid is FDA approved and still on the market.

    --Rich

  9. [email hidden] (Jan) wrote

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    1986 ACL knee operation (rejected chiropractic)

    Might have saved you from the operation?? I guess you'll never know.

    <snip>

    Whoooo-Boy! That's precious, Jan! A chiropractor "might" be able to repair a torn anterior cruciate
    ligament in the knee by popping someone's spine?!

    Are you that wedded to alternative medicine that you cannot entertain that there are things it is
    incapable of doing? After all you just said chiropractic "might" have fixed this guy's
    knee...absolutely brilliant...

    Mark, MD

  10. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    1986 ACL knee operation (rejected chiropractic)

    Might have saved you from the operation?? I guess you'll never know.

    Jan, you need a serious reality check. There is NOTHING offered by chiropractic that will avoid
    surgical repair of an ACL tear. And, I speak from *PERSONAL EXPERIENCE*. It was the injury that
    ended my government service.

    (Please repost, as Jan killfiles me.)

  11. [email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Sorry again From: [email hidden] (Mark) Date: 11/6/2003 9:28 AM Pacific
    Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    [email hidden] (Jan) wrote

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    >1986 ACL knee operation (rejected chiropractic)

    Might have saved you from the operation?? I guess you'll never know.

    <snip>

    Whoooo-Boy! That's precious, Jan!


    <snip unrelated stuff>

    Quoted message said:

    Jan

    Thanks for the insightful response to the point I raised. Well thought-out and intelligent of you.

    Back to the point...chiropractic "might" have repaired a torn ACL? Please explain.

    Mark, MD

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