I have recently had a problem with upshifting (smaller cogs), where the shifter will jump 2 or 3 cogs instead of one on a button push. Being very careful with upshifting (good hard push, then release) seems to help control it. Downshifting is fine.
The shifter feels like its skipping over the index points, like if you're tentative with the push and hold the button mid-way; sort of like a ratchet skipping over worn teeth. It seems to happen mostly in the middle/lower part of the cassette.. but that may just be where I mostly run.
Shifters are Mirage 10, about a year old with maybe 5000k's, on a Shimergo setup (shimano 9 cassette with hubbub cable routing)
I have recently had a problem with upshifting (smaller cogs), where the shifter will jump 2 or 3 cogs instead of one on a button push. Being very careful with upshifting (good hard push, then release) seems to help control it. Downshifting is fine.
The shifter feels like its skipping over the index points, like if you're tentative with the push and hold the button mid-way; sort of like a ratchet skipping over worn teeth. It seems to happen mostly in the middle/lower part of the cassette.. but that may just be where I mostly run.
Shifters are Mirage 10, about a year old with maybe 5000k's, on a Shimergo setup (shimano 9 cassette with hubbub cable routing)
Anyone have an idea what's going on?
Worn or broken G-springs. Cheap, regular maintenance issue; not a crisis. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
I have recently had a problem with upshifting (smaller cogs), where the shifter will jump 2 or 3 cogs instead of one on a button push. Being very careful with upshifting (good hard push, then release) seems to help control it. Downshifting is fine.
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The shifter feels like its skipping over the index points, like if you're tentative with the push and hold the button mid-way; sort of like a ratchet skipping over worn teeth. It seems to happen mostly in the middle/lower part of the cassette.. but that may just be where I mostly run.
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Shifters are Mirage 10, about a year old with maybe 5000k's, on a Shimergo setup (shimano 9 cassette with hubbub cable routing)
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Anyone have an idea what's going on?
Worn or broken G-springs. Cheap, regular maintenance issue; not a crisis.
These shifters are Mirage QS 10 sp (2007) with the escape mechanism.. do they still have G springs?
I have recently had a problem with upshifting (smaller cogs), where the shifter will jump 2 or 3 cogs instead of one on a button push. Being very careful with upshifting (good hard push, then release) seems to help control it. Downshifting is fine.
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The shifter feels like its skipping over the index points, like if you're tentative with the push and hold the button mid-way; sort of like a ratchet skipping over worn teeth. It seems to happen mostly in the middle/lower part of the cassette.. but that may just be where I mostly run.
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Shifters are Mirage 10, about a year old with maybe 5000k's, on a Shimergo setup (shimano 9 cassette with hubbub cable routing)
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Anyone have an idea what's going on?
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Worn or broken G-springs. Cheap, regular maintenance issue; not a crisis.
These shifters are Mirage QS 10 sp (2007) with the escape mechanism.. do they still have G springs?
Bump... no-one ever looked inside one of these beasties?
Poking around this morning with the rubber hood off, I suspect that the tooth on the thumb shifter may have worn down.. but won't be able to confirm unless I pull the shifter apart.
I have recently had a problem with upshifting (smaller cogs), where the shifter will jump 2 or 3 cogs instead of one on a button push. Being very careful with upshifting (good hard push, then release) seems to help control it. Downshifting is fine.
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The shifter feels like its skipping over the index points, like if you're tentative with the push and hold the button mid-way; sort of like a ratchet skipping over worn teeth. It seems to happen mostly in the middle/lower part of the cassette.. but that may just be where I mostly run.
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Shifters are Mirage 10, about a year old with maybe 5000k's, on a Shimergo setup (shimano 9 cassette with hubbub cable routing)
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Anyone have an idea what's going on?
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Worn or broken G-springs. Cheap, regular maintenance issue; not a crisis.
These shifters are Mirage QS 10 sp (2007) with the escape mechanism.. do they still have G springs?
duncan
On the Campy PDf http://shrinkify.com/1j8 from Centaur on down there are no G-springs. To answer your question I think something might be ary with you Shimero setup. I have a feeling that the amount of cable pull is out of whack.
On the Campy PDf http://shrinkify.com/1j8from Centaur on down there are no G-springs. To answer your question I think something might be ary with you Shimero setup. I have a feeling that the amount of cable pull is out of whack.
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[email hidden] wrote: > I have recently had a problem with upshifting (smaller cogs), where > the shifter will jump 2 or 3 cogs instead of one on a button push. > Being very careful with upshifting (good hard push, then release) > seems to help control it. Downshifting is fine.
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> The shifter feels like its skipping over the index points, like if > you're tentative with the push and hold the button mid-way; sort of > like a ratchet skipping over worn teeth. It seems to happen mostly in > the middle/lower part of the cassette.. but that may just be where I > mostly run.
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> Shifters are Mirage 10, about a year old with maybe 5000k's, on a > Shimergo setup (shimano 9 cassette with hubbub cable routing)
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> Anyone have an idea what's going on?
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Worn or broken G-springs. Cheap, regular maintenance issue; not a crisis.
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These shifters are Mirage QS 10 sp (2007) with the escape mechanism.. do they still have G springs?
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duncan
On the Campy PDf http://shrinkify.com/1j8from Centaur on down there are no G-springs. To answer your question I think something might be ary with you Shimero setup. I have a feeling that the amount of cable pull is out of whack.
nope... cable pull is not the problem. This is a setup that's been working fine for nearly a year. The thumb shifter drops down a matching number of multiple index positions for the cogs.
I think I'll have to get into it and poke around.. which is a problem, as this is my commuter.. and N=1 at the moment.
[email hidden] wrote: > I have recently had a problem with upshifting (smaller cogs), where > the shifter will jump 2 or 3 cogs instead of one on a button push. > Being very careful with upshifting (good hard push, then release) > seems to help control it. Downshifting is fine.
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> The shifter feels like its skipping over the index points, like if > you're tentative with the push and hold the button mid-way; sort of > like a ratchet skipping over worn teeth. It seems to happen mostly in > the middle/lower part of the cassette.. but that may just be where I > mostly run.
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> Shifters are Mirage 10, about a year old with maybe 5000k's, on a > Shimergo setup (shimano 9 cassette with hubbub cable routing)
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> Anyone have an idea what's going on?
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Worn or broken G-springs. Cheap, regular maintenance issue; not a crisis.
These shifters are Mirage QS 10 sp (2007) with the escape mechanism.. do they still have G springs?
Bump... no-one ever looked inside one of these beasties?
On Mar 5, 11:46 am, A Muzi <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> [email hidden] wrote: > > I have recently had a problem with upshifting (smaller cogs), where > > the shifter will jump 2 or 3 cogs instead of one on a button push. > > Being very careful with upshifting (good hard push, then release) > > seems to help control it. Downshifting is fine.
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> > The shifter feels like its skipping over the index points, like if > > you're tentative with the push and hold the button mid-way; sort of > > like a ratchet skipping over worn teeth. It seems to happen mostly in > > the middle/lower part of the cassette.. but that may just be where I > > mostly run.
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> > Shifters are Mirage 10, about a year old with maybe 5000k's, on a > > Shimergo setup (shimano 9 cassette with hubbub cable routing)
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> > Anyone have an idea what's going on?
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> Worn or broken G-springs. > Cheap, regular maintenance issue; not a crisis.
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These shifters are Mirage QS 10 sp (2007) with the escape mechanism.. do they still have G springs?
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Bump... no-one ever looked inside one of these beasties?
Bump what?
Bump the thread. He hopes someone responds before the thread falls too far.
On Mar 6, 4:30 pm, [email hidden] wrote: > On Mar 5, 11:46 am, A Muzi <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> > [email hidden] wrote: > > > I have recently had a problem with upshifting (smaller cogs), where > > > the shifter will jump 2 or 3 cogs instead of one on a button push. > > > Being very careful with upshifting (good hard push, then release) > > > seems to help control it. Downshifting is fine.
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> > > The shifter feels like its skipping over the index points, like if > > > you're tentative with the push and hold the button mid-way; sort of > > > like a ratchet skipping over worn teeth. It seems to happen mostly in > > > the middle/lower part of the cassette.. but that may just be where I > > > mostly run.
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> > > Shifters are Mirage 10, about a year old with maybe 5000k's, on a > > > Shimergo setup (shimano 9 cassette with hubbub cable routing)
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> > > Anyone have an idea what's going on?
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> > Worn or broken G-springs. > > Cheap, regular maintenance issue; not a crisis.
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> These shifters are Mirage QS 10 sp (2007) with the escape mechanism.. > do they still have G springs?
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Bump... no-one ever looked inside one of these beasties?
Bump what?
Bump the thread. He hopes someone responds before the thread falls too far.
Someone who knows should explain to him the difference between usenet and www forums.
[email hidden] wrote: > On Mar 6, 4:30 pm, [email hidden] wrote: > > On Mar 5, 11:46 am, A Muzi <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> > > [email hidden] wrote: > > > > I have recently had a problem with upshifting (smaller cogs), where > > > > the shifter will jump 2 or 3 cogs instead of one on a button push. > > > > Being very careful with upshifting (good hard push, then release) > > > > seems to help control it. Downshifting is fine.
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> > > > The shifter feels like its skipping over the index points, like if > > > > you're tentative with the push and hold the button mid-way; sort of > > > > like a ratchet skipping over worn teeth. It seems to happen mostly in > > > > the middle/lower part of the cassette.. but that may just be where I > > > > mostly run.
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> > > > Shifters are Mirage 10, about a year old with maybe 5000k's, on a > > > > Shimergo setup (shimano 9 cassette with hubbub cable routing)
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> > These shifters are Mirage QS 10 sp (2007) with the escape mechanism.. > > do they still have G springs?
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> Bump... no-one ever looked inside one of these beasties?
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Bump what?
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Bump the thread. He hopes someone responds before the thread falls too far.
Someone who knows should explain to him the difference between usenet and www forums.
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Because heaven forbid somebody internets wrong.
Crimony, there's one in every crowd...the internet etiquette know-it- all, correcting everybody else. Seriously..every newsgroup, forum, listserv, you have the posting police.
On Mar 9, 3:16 am, Michael Press <[email hidden]> wrote: > In article > <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] wrote: >> On Mar 6, 4:30 pm, [email hidden] wrote: >>> On Mar 5, 11:46 am, A Muzi <[email hidden]> wrote: >>>> [email hidden] wrote: >>>>> I have recently had a problem with upshifting (smaller cogs), where >>>>> the shifter will jump 2 or 3 cogs instead of one on a button push. >>>>> Being very careful with upshifting (good hard push, then release) >>>>> seems to help control it. Downshifting is fine. >>>>> The shifter feels like its skipping over the index points, like if >>>>> you're tentative with the push and hold the button mid-way; sort of >>>>> like a ratchet skipping over worn teeth. It seems to happen mostly in >>>>> the middle/lower part of the cassette.. but that may just be where I >>>>> mostly run. >>>>> Shifters are Mirage 10, about a year old with maybe 5000k's, on a >>>>> Shimergo setup (shimano 9 cassette with hubbub cable routing) >>>>> Anyone have an idea what's going on? >>>> Worn or broken G-springs. >>>> Cheap, regular maintenance issue; not a crisis. >>> These shifters are Mirage QS 10 sp (2007) with the escape mechanism.. >>> do they still have G springs? >> Bump... no-one ever looked inside one of these beasties? > Bump what? Bump the thread. He hopes someone responds before the thread falls too far.
Someone who knows should explain to him the difference between usenet and www forums.
-- Michael Press
Because heaven forbid somebody internets wrong.
Such as not honoring the signature separator?
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Crimony, there's one in every crowd...the internet etiquette know-it- all, correcting everybody else. Seriously..every newsgroup, forum, listserv, you have the posting police.
JUST LET IT GO, MICHAEL.
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On Mar 10, 6:57 am, Michael Press <[email hidden]> wrote: > Someone who knows should explain to him the difference between > usenet and www forums.
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How is it different.. do you go and search through old threads for questions you might like to answer?
Hank said the method is to refresh a thread. I spoke to that.
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Don't like it? kill-file me.
How about you wait for me to tell you what I like and dislike? I do not use kill files. Waste of time.
Yet all the time you spend telling people that they're internetting incorrectly is NOT a waste of time?
You do not characterize my intent or means correctly. I asked someone who understands www forums to explain the difference to duncan. Why would you not explain it to him? Does `bump' server a purpose in usenet groups?
You do not characterize my intent or means correctly. I asked someone who understands www forums to explain the difference to duncan. Why would you not explain it to him? Does `bump' server a purpose in usenet groups?
FFS..
if you are so concerned about this violation of etiquette, why don't _you_ explain to to me?
[email hidden] wrote: > On Mar 10, 6:57 am, Michael Press <[email hidden]> wrote: > > Someone who knows should explain to him the difference between > > usenet and www forums.
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> How is it different.. do you go and search through old threads for > questions you might like to answer?
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Hank said the method is to refresh a thread. I spoke to that.
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> Don't like it? kill-file me.
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How about you wait for me to tell you what I like and dislike? I do not use kill files. Waste of time.
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Yet all the time you spend telling people that they're internetting incorrectly is NOT a waste of time?
You do not characterize my intent or means correctly. I asked someone who understands www forums to explain the difference to duncan. Why would you not explain it to him? Does `bump' server a purpose in usenet groups?
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Sure...It repeats the question in a new message in case someone with an answer didn't see it the first time around, or didn't have time to reply. If they're using Google Groups, as many here do, or certain newsreaders, it will push the thread to the top with its recent activity. Obviously, this doesn't apply to how you read the group, but if that's the case, why do you bother replying? I mean you're obviously annoyed that your time's been wasted, so why not cut your losses and skip over the post?
You do not characterize my intent or means correctly. I asked someone who understands www forums to explain the difference to duncan. Why would you not explain it to him? Does `bump' server a purpose in usenet groups?
FFS..
if you are so concerned about this violation of etiquette, why don't _you_ explain to to me?
You misunderstand my concern. I do not explain it because I do not know enough of web based forums to do so. That is why I asked for someone who does.
On Mar 9, 4:46 pm, Michael Press <[email hidden]> wrote: >In article ><[email hidden]>,
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> [email hidden] wrote: >>On Mar 10, 6:57 am, Michael Press <[email hidden]> wrote: >>>Someone who knows should explain to him the difference between >>>usenet and www forums.
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>>How is it different.. do you go and search through old threads for >>questions you might like to answer?
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>Hank said the method is to refresh a thread. >I spoke to that.
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>>Don't like it? kill-file me.
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>How about you wait for me to tell you what I like and dislike? >I do not use kill files. Waste of time.
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Yet all the time you spend telling people that they're internetting incorrectly is NOT a waste of time?
You do not characterize my intent or means correctly. I asked someone who understands www forums to explain the difference to duncan. Why would you not explain it to him? Does `bump' server a purpose in usenet groups?
Sure...It repeats the question in a new message in case someone with an answer didn't see it the first time around, or didn't have time to reply. If they're using Google Groups, as many here do, or certain newsreaders, it will push the thread to the top with its recent activity. Obviously, this doesn't apply to how you read the group, but if that's the case, why do you bother replying? I mean you're obviously annoyed that your time's been wasted, so why not cut your losses and skip over the post?
Not so obvious. And I am not annoyed. I have said some things about what I am doing, and you ignore them; instead you make up things such as a concern for losses. Apparently you think I am engaged in a debate and have sustained losses. Losses to you?
