Question about fit

Gary said:

I have a chance to get a good deal on a 2007 Madone (60cm) - I'm 6'1". I've
had back problems and would like to raise the bars by using a higher stem.I
don't want to use those fake stem raisers. I couldn't find any road stems
with a high enough angle (31.8 cm, 125 degrees). I did find an aluminum
mountain stem, however. Is a mountain stem with this angle suitable for a
road bike? Will I encounter any problems?
Thanks - Gary

The bar diameter is not the same.

Joseph

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Gary said:

I have a chance to get a good deal on a 2007 Madone (60cm) - I'm 6'1". I've
had back problems and would like to raise the bars by using a higher stem. I
don't want to use those fake stem raisers. I couldn't find any road stems
with a high enough angle (31.8 cm, 125 degrees). I did find an aluminum
mountain stem, however. Is a mountain stem with this angle suitable for a
road bike? Will I encounter any problems?
Thanks - Gary

The bar diameter is not the same.

Joseph

Oops. I didn't see you specified OS diameter.

Joseph

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Gary said:

I have a chance to get a good deal on a 2007 Madone (60cm) - I'm 6'1". I've
had back problems and would like to raise the bars by using a higher stem. I
don't want to use those fake stem raisers. I couldn't find any road stems
with a high enough angle (31.8 cm, 125 degrees). I did find an aluminum
mountain stem, however. Is a mountain stem with this angle suitable for a
road bike? Will I encounter any problems?
Thanks - Gary

The bar diameter is not the same.

Joseph

Oops. I didn't see you specified OS diameter.

Joseph[/QUOTE]

Yeah. Although I'm pretty sure he meant 31.8mm not cm. 😄

On Mar 8, 2:43 pm, Dan Burkhart <Dan.Burkhart.35z...@no-

mx.forums.cyclingforums.com said:

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On Mar 8, 6:55�pm, "Gary" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> I have a chance to get a good deal on a 2007 Madone (60cm) - I'm

6'1". I've

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> had back problems and would like to raise the bars by using a

higher stem. I

Quoted message said:

> don't want to use those fake stem raisers. I couldn't find any road

stems

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> with a high enough angle (31.8 cm, 125 degrees). I did find an

aluminum

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> mountain stem, however. Is a mountain stem with this angle suitable

for a

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> road bike? Will I encounter any problems?
> Thanks - Gary

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The bar diameter is not the same.

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Joseph

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Oops. I didn't see you specified OS diameter.

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Joseph

Yeah. Although I'm pretty sure he meant 31.8mm not cm. 😄

Such nice big manly hands!

BTW, stem raisers such as the Delta work great, are strong, rigid, and
don't make funny sounds. Still, I find a Madone an odd choice for
someone with back issues. Not the drops, but the Madone's needing a
kludge to get the bars at a decent height--a major kludge.

landotter said:

On Mar 8, 2:43 pm, Dan Burkhart <Dan.Burkhart.35z...@no-

mx.forums.cyclingforums.com said:

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> On Mar 8, 6:55�pm, "Gary" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> I have a chance to get a good deal on a 2007 Madone (60cm) - I'm
6'1". I've
>> had back problems and would like to raise the bars by using a
higher stem. I
>> don't want to use those fake stem raisers. I couldn't find any road
stems
>> with a high enough angle (31.8 cm, 125 degrees). I did find an
aluminum
>> mountain stem, however. Is a mountain stem with this angle suitable
for a
>> road bike? Will I encounter any problems?
>> Thanks - Gary
> The bar diameter is not the same.
> Joseph
Oops. I didn't see you specified OS diameter.
Joseph

Yeah. Although I'm pretty sure he meant 31.8mm not cm. 😄

Such nice big manly hands!

BTW, stem raisers such as the Delta work great, are strong, rigid, and
don't make funny sounds. Still, I find a Madone an odd choice for
someone with back issues. Not the drops, but the Madone's needing a
kludge to get the bars at a decent height--a major kludge.

Are not "Lancealikes" the target market for the Trek MadOne?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

On Mar 8, 4:00 pm, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>

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landotter said:

On Mar 8, 2:43 pm, Dan Burkhart <Dan.Burkhart.35z...@no-

mx.forums.cyclingforums.com said:

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> [email hidden] wrote:
>> On Mar 8, 6:55�pm, "Gary" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>> I have a chance to get a good deal on a 2007 Madone (60cm) - I'm
> 6'1". I've
>>> had back problems and would like to raise the bars by using a
> higher stem. I
>>> don't want to use those fake stem raisers. I couldn't find any road
> stems
>>> with a high enough angle (31.8 cm, 125 degrees). I did find an
> aluminum
>>> mountain stem, however. Is a mountain stem with this angle suitable
> for a
>>> road bike? Will I encounter any problems?
>>> Thanks - Gary
>> The bar diameter is not the same.
>> Joseph
> Oops. I didn't see you specified OS diameter.
> Joseph
Yeah. Although I'm pretty sure he meant 31.8mm not cm. 😄

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Such nice big manly hands!

Quoted message said:

BTW, stem raisers such as the Delta work great, are strong, rigid, and
don't make funny sounds. Still, I find a Madone an odd choice for
someone with back issues. Not the drops, but the Madone's needing a
kludge to get the bars at a decent height--a major kludge.

Are not "Lancealikes" the target market for the Trek MadOne?

Hey, I know guys that love the geeky tech and ride them at
ridiculously low speeds on the bike path--and they understand the mild
irony--but they really love the tech. Can't fault that, and it's
waaaay cheaper than a Harley, no? Cheaper than a good set of golf
clubs for that matter. But if someone is looking for a *rider* and has
a bad back--it doesn't seem like a good mix. I'll leave it at that.

On Mar 8, 4:00 pm, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>

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landotter said:

On Mar 8, 2:43 pm, Dan Burkhart <Dan.Burkhart.35z...@no-

mx.forums.cyclingforums.com said:

[email hidden] Wrote:

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> [email hidden] wrote:
>> On Mar 8, 6:55�pm, "Gary" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>> I have a chance to get a good deal on a 2007 Madone (60cm) - I'm
> 6'1". I've
>>> had back problems and would like to raise the bars by using a
> higher stem. I
>>> don't want to use those fake stem raisers. I couldn't find any road
> stems
>>> with a high enough angle (31.8 cm, 125 degrees). I did find an
> aluminum
>>> mountain stem, however. Is a mountain stem with this angle suitable
> for a
>>> road bike? Will I encounter any problems?
>>> Thanks - Gary
>> The bar diameter is not the same.
>> Joseph
> Oops. I didn't see you specified OS diameter.
> Joseph
Yeah. Although I'm pretty sure he meant 31.8mm not cm. 😄

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Such nice big manly hands!

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BTW, stem raisers such as the Delta work great, are strong, rigid, and
don't make funny sounds. Still, I find a Madone an odd choice for
someone with back issues. Not the drops, but the Madone's needing a
kludge to get the bars at a decent height--a major kludge.

Are not "Lancealikes" the target market for the Trek MadOne?

Right. And if the bars ain't *at least* 6" below the saddle, it's
Fredsville for you, baby.

Ozark Bicycle said:

On Mar 8, 4:00 pm, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>

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landotter said:

On Mar 8, 2:43 pm, Dan Burkhart <Dan.Burkhart.35z...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> [email hidden] Wrote:

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>> [email hidden] wrote:
>>> On Mar 8, 6:55�pm, "Gary" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>> I have a chance to get a good deal on a 2007 Madone (60cm) - I'm
>> 6'1". I've
>>>> had back problems and would like to raise the bars by using a
>> higher stem. I
>>>> don't want to use those fake stem raisers. I couldn't find any road
>> stems
>>>> with a high enough angle (31.8 cm, 125 degrees). I did find an
>> aluminum
>>>> mountain stem, however. Is a mountain stem with this angle suitable
>> for a
>>>> road bike? Will I encounter any problems?
>>>> Thanks - Gary
>>> The bar diameter is not the same.
>>> Joseph
>> Oops. I didn't see you specified OS diameter.
>> Joseph
> Yeah. Although I'm pretty sure he meant 31.8mm not cm. 😄

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Such nice big manly hands!

Quoted message said:

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BTW, stem raisers such as the Delta work great, are strong, rigid, and
don't make funny sounds. Still, I find a Madone an odd choice for
someone with back issues. Not the drops, but the Madone's needing a
kludge to get the bars at a decent height--a major kludge.

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Are not "Lancealikes" the target market for the Trek MadOne?

Right. And if the bars ain't *at least* 6" below the saddle, it's
Fredsville for you, baby.

At least it's more fun for me when I pass in cuffed jeans, boots, a
wooly hat, and panniers catching a wicked tail wind!

But I do find it comfortable to put on some lycra, cleats, and my
faded Columbus tubing cap. I just see no reason to be hunched over.
Leaned forward slightly, sure. At any rate, I think for a lot of
folks, drops are a vestigal affectation that can't be reached without
getting a knee in the gut.

landotter said:

On Mar 8, 4:00 pm, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>

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landotter said:

On Mar 8, 2:43 pm, Dan Burkhart <Dan.Burkhart.35z...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> [email hidden] Wrote:
>> [email hidden] wrote:
>>> On Mar 8, 6:55�pm, "Gary" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>> I have a chance to get a good deal on a 2007 Madone (60cm) - I'm
>> 6'1". I've
>>>> had back problems and would like to raise the bars by using a
>> higher stem. I
>>>> don't want to use those fake stem raisers. I couldn't find any road
>> stems
>>>> with a high enough angle (31.8 cm, 125 degrees). I did find an
>> aluminum
>>>> mountain stem, however. Is a mountain stem with this angle suitable
>> for a
>>>> road bike? Will I encounter any problems?
>>>> Thanks - Gary
>>> The bar diameter is not the same.
>>> Joseph
>> Oops. I didn't see you specified OS diameter.
>> Joseph
> Yeah. Although I'm pretty sure he meant 31.8mm not cm. 😄
Such nice big manly hands!
BTW, stem raisers such as the Delta work great, are strong, rigid, and
don't make funny sounds. Still, I find a Madone an odd choice for
someone with back issues. Not the drops, but the Madone's needing a
kludge to get the bars at a decent height--a major kludge.

Are not "Lancealikes" the target market for the Trek MadOne?

Hey, I know guys that love the geeky tech and ride them at
ridiculously low speeds on the bike path--and they understand the mild
irony--but they really love the tech. Can't fault that, and it's
waaaay cheaper than a Harley, no? Cheaper than a good set of golf
clubs for that matter. But if someone is looking for a *rider* and has
a bad back--it doesn't seem like a good mix. I'll leave it at that.

If they want to be geeky and also have bad backs, should they not be on
a recumbent - the ultimate in "Fred" cycling?

Three wheels for low speed balance on the MUP, lots of carbon fiber
composite, back support, and a high price snf geek factor:
<http://www.windcheetah.co.uk/hypersport.htm>. What more could one ask for?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

On Mar 8, 5:08 pm, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>

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landotter said:

On Mar 8, 4:00 pm, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>

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"landotter" wrote:
> On Mar 8, 2:43 pm, Dan Burkhart <Dan.Burkhart.35z...@no-
> mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
>> [email hidden] Wrote:
>>> [email hidden] wrote:
>>>> On Mar 8, 6:55�pm, "Gary" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>>> I have a chance to get a good deal on a 2007 Madone (60cm) - I'm
>>> 6'1". I've
>>>>> had back problems and would like to raise the bars by using a
>>> higher stem. I
>>>>> don't want to use those fake stem raisers. I couldn't find any road
>>> stems
>>>>> with a high enough angle (31.8 cm, 125 degrees). I did find an
>>> aluminum
>>>>> mountain stem, however. Is a mountain stem with this angle suitable
>>> for a
>>>>> road bike? Will I encounter any problems?
>>>>> Thanks - Gary
>>>> The bar diameter is not the same.
>>>> Joseph
>>> Oops. I didn't see you specified OS diameter.
>>> Joseph
>> Yeah. Although I'm pretty sure he meant 31.8mm not cm. 😄
> Such nice big manly hands!
> BTW, stem raisers such as the Delta work great, are strong, rigid, and
> don't make funny sounds. Still, I find a Madone an odd choice for
> someone with back issues. Not the drops, but the Madone's needing a
> kludge to get the bars at a decent height--a major kludge.
Are not "Lancealikes" the target market for the Trek MadOne?

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Hey, I know guys that love the geeky tech and ride them at
ridiculously low speeds on the bike path--and they understand the mild
irony--but they really love the tech. Can't fault that, and it's
waaaay cheaper than a Harley, no? Cheaper than a good set of golf
clubs for that matter. But if someone is looking for a *rider* and has
a bad back--it doesn't seem like a good mix. I'll leave it at that.

If they want to be geeky and also have bad backs, should they not be on
a recumbent - the ultimate in "Fred" cycling?

Three wheels for low speed balance on the MUP, lots of carbon fiber
composite, back support, and a high price snf geek factor:
<http://www.windcheetah.co.uk/hypersport.htm>. What more could one ask for?

There are both nerd and geek indices if you didn't know.

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On Mar 8, 2:43 pm, Dan Burkhart <Dan.Burkhart.35z...@no-

mx.forums.cyclingforums.com said:

Such nice big manly hands!

BTW, stem raisers such as the Delta work great, are strong, rigid, and
don't make funny sounds. Still, I find a Madone an odd choice for
someone with back issues. Not the drops, but the Madone's needing a
kludge to get the bars at a decent height--a major kludge.

It's what Lance rides! Duh!

"Proven ProTour geometry delivers the predictable, confidence-inspiring
handling that Lance rode to seven TDF victories."

"Optimal balance of lateral stiffness and vertical compliance."

"Utilizes the inherent vibration damping qualities of OCLV to deliver just
the right amount of road feedback to keep you in-tune with the road"

"The Legacy Continues"

What is one expected to ride? A lugged steel, "boat anchor", frame?

BobT

http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html

"Gary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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|I have a chance to get a good deal on a 2007 Madone (60cm) - I'm 6'1". I've
| had back problems and would like to raise the bars by using a higher stem.
I
| don't want to use those fake stem raisers. I couldn't find any road stems
| with a high enough angle (31.8 cm, 125 degrees). I did find an aluminum
| mountain stem, however. Is a mountain stem with this angle suitable for a
| road bike? Will I encounter any problems?
| Thanks - Gary

Gary:

Torelli makes some very nice-looking 35-degree-rise stems, in 31.8mm, that
might be just the ticket. We sell & use many of them.

But what we really need to know is how much "drop", if any, you prefer from
the top of the seat to the top of the bars. You can easily figure this by
simply measuring from the top of the saddle to the ground, then the top of
the bars to the ground, and subtract the difference. With that information I
can mock it up on a bike on our floor and tell you if it looks reasonable.
Heck, I don't even have to do it at the shop; my own bike is a 60cm Madone.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

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Thanks for the exercise list. I can always use some help with my training.

I'm too dense to get the reference of this list to the current thread.
Please enlighten.

BobT

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1263758.stm

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Dan Burkhart <[email hidden]>

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On Mar 8, 6:55�pm, "Gary" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> I have a chance to get a good deal on a 2007 Madone (60cm) - I'm

6'1". I've

Quoted message said:

> had back problems and would like to raise the bars by using a

higher stem. I

Quoted message said:

> don't want to use those fake stem raisers. I couldn't find any road

stems

Quoted message said:

> with a high enough angle (31.8 cm, 125 degrees). I did find an

aluminum

Quoted message said:

> mountain stem, however. Is a mountain stem with this angle suitable

for a

Quoted message said:

> road bike? Will I encounter any problems?
> Thanks - Gary

The bar diameter is not the same.

Joseph

Oops. I didn't see you specified OS diameter.

Yeah. Although I'm pretty sure he meant 31.8mm not cm. 😄

There is a reason the international scientific standards
body put together the MKS system. You may feel foolish
using pascal for units of pressure but strict adherence
prevents numerous errors. Ever wonder where bar as a unit
of pressure comes from?

Official pressure of one atmosphere = 101325 pascal
1 bar = 100000 pascal

--
Michael Press

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Ozark Bicycle said:

On Mar 8, 4:00 pm, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>

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landotter said:

On Mar 8, 2:43 pm, Dan Burkhart <Dan.Burkhart.35z...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> [email hidden] Wrote:

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>> [email hidden] wrote:
>>> On Mar 8, 6:55?pm, "Gary" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>> I have a chance to get a good deal on a 2007 Madone (60cm) - I'm
>> 6'1". I've
>>>> had back problems and would like to raise the bars by using a
>> higher stem. I
>>>> don't want to use those fake stem raisers. I couldn't find any road
>> stems
>>>> with a high enough angle (31.8 cm, 125 degrees). I did find an
>> aluminum
>>>> mountain stem, however. Is a mountain stem with this angle suitable
>> for a
>>>> road bike? Will I encounter any problems?
>>>> Thanks - Gary
>>> The bar diameter is not the same.
>>> Joseph
>> Oops. I didn't see you specified OS diameter.
>> Joseph
> Yeah. Although I'm pretty sure he meant 31.8mm not cm. 😄

Quoted message said:

Such nice big manly hands!

Quoted message said:

BTW, stem raisers such as the Delta work great, are strong, rigid, and
don't make funny sounds. Still, I find a Madone an odd choice for
someone with back issues. Not the drops, but the Madone's needing a
kludge to get the bars at a decent height--a major kludge.

Are not "Lancealikes" the target market for the Trek MadOne?

Right. And if the bars ain't *at least* 6" below the saddle, it's
Fredsville for you, baby.

40 mm. I can ride the 65 mm drops all day.

--
Michael Press

http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-54900.html

why are cyclists disagreeable?

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datakoll said:

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why are cyclists disagreeable?

"They" put something in Clif bars & Gu.

cheers,
Tom

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