A life of privilege

Andre Jute said:

Today was the first day since I started doing that in the second week
of January that I've had to take the cycling trousers off again
without going biking, even if for a short run, and I've thrice made
the 20+km run to Kilmacsimon already this year without once getting
wet. But today was cold and wet and hail fell.

Cold and wet with precipitation? Those are just days to go jogging.

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Quoted message said:

Every day when I rise I put on cycling trousers before I even open the
curtains.

Well, for your neigbours sake, I am glad you don't perform these tasks in the opposite order. But it is nice to hear of
someone else who is an all-season cyclist. The weather here is never really cold (although the 120 kmh winds can be a
bit of a trial), but sometimes I feel I am the only one in the city who does a regular cycle-commute in the wet season.

Mike

Mike [email protected] said:

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...> Every day when I rise I put on cycling trousers before I even open the

Quoted message said:

curtains.

Well, for your neigbours sake, I am glad you don't perform these tasks in the opposite order. But it is nice to hear of
someone else who is an all-season cyclist. The weather here is never really cold (although the 120 kmh winds can be a
bit of a trial), but sometimes I feel I am the only one in the city who does a regular cycle-commute in the wet season.

Mike

All-season cyclist, sure, but not all-weather cyclist. The point of "a
life of privilege" is that I live in Ireland which has, believe it or
not, what is officially described as a "Mediterranean climate".
Observably it hardly ever rains here so hard or often, or is so cold,
or so windy, that cycling is impossible -- or even uncomfortable. I
did wear long underwear for one ride this winter (for the first time
in several years), but in the main my gripes are mickey mouse stuff:
eyes that tear for a bit until I get warm, goggles that fog up. It's
stuff that the real hard men of cycling, who commute in snow and
whatnot, would just laugh off. Here's one for you: my paclite jacket
has gone mouldy in my rackpack -- because I haven't worn it in two or
three years; the implication is that in all that time, I have never
been caught in a rainstorm too heavy for the light cotton jacket I
often wear when it is a soft day -- local patois for the sort of
pervasive damp mist of tiny droplets, not quite rain, not quite dry,
for which tweeds is the recommended remedy for all but cyclists.

120kph winds? You're not serious, are you? 30kph and I stay home,
knowing that in an hour or two the wind will be gone.

Mind you, the Tourist Board won't want me saying this, but every time
I come to my front door to test really heavy rain -- that is precisely
the time I always see the major touring bikers go by, looking
forlornly like wet chickens. This is after all the birthplace of
Murphy of Murphy's Law.

Wind 25kph today, 12 degrees C, rode 11km because that was all I had
time for.

Andre Jute
"Ireland is so damp, if you throw your soiled shorts in the corner of
an evening, in the morning you can pick enough mushrooms for a fine
breakfast." -- Butch Roberts, fishing boat captain

"Andre Jute" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Every day when I rise I put on cycling trousers before I even open the
curtains.

Today was the first day since I started doing that in the second week
of January that I've had to take the cycling trousers off again
without going biking, even if for a short run, and I've thrice made
the 20+km run to Kilmacsimon already this year without once getting
wet. But today was cold and wet and hail fell.

I feel sorry for people who live in places like the American midwest
and Canada and suchlike, and have this [censored] day after day for months
on end.

Andre Jute
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/BICYCLE%20%26%20CYCLING.html

I lived in Hawaii for a year, then I left, out of boredom. I need the
change of seasons.

The crummy winter weather in Chicago makes one appreciate the nice summer
weather even more. When I get a little blue from the winter, I just listen
to something like the humpty dance

.

Rapper J.

Andre Jute said:

Every day when I rise I put on cycling trousers before I even open the
curtains.

Today was the first day since I started doing that in the second week
of January that I've had to take the cycling trousers off again
without going biking, even if for a short run, and I've thrice made
the 20+km run to Kilmacsimon already this year without once getting
wet. But today was cold and wet and hail fell.

I feel sorry for people who live in places like the American midwest
and Canada and suchlike, and have this [censored] day after day for months
on end.

Hey, I rode a bicycle (Peugeot P-8 with minimal tread tires) to school
every day in junior high school in Wisconsin. Wore nothing more than a
wool cap, mittens and windbreaker over a cotton sweatshirt in the
winter. Never really was bothered by the weather.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Jay Bollyn said:

The crummy winter weather in Chicago makes one appreciate the nice summer
weather even more.[...]

Hey, four counties north we have had about twice the snow as Chicago.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

On Mar 5, 3:48 am, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>

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Andre Jute said:

Every day when I rise I put on cycling trousers before I even open the
curtains.

Quoted message said:

Today was the first day since I started doing that in the second week
of January that I've had to take the cycling trousers off again
without going biking, even if for a short run, and I've thrice made
the 20+km run to Kilmacsimon already this year without once getting
wet. But today was cold and wet and hail fell.

Quoted message said:

I feel sorry for people who live in places like the American midwest
and Canada and suchlike, and have this [censored] day after day for months
on end.

Hey, I rode a bicycle (Peugeot P-8 with minimal tread tires) to school
every day in junior high school in Wisconsin. Wore nothing more than a
wool cap, mittens and windbreaker over a cotton sweatshirt in the
winter. Never really was bothered by the weather.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

See, it's turned you into a hard case. If you'd gone to school by SUV,
you could now be a grimacing softy.

Cruella de Ville
About this time I usually have a little snack. Bring a Dalmatian puppy.

Andre Jute said:

On Mar 5, 3:48 am, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Andre Jute said:

Every day when I rise I put on cycling trousers before I even open the
curtains.
Today was the first day since I started doing that in the second week
of January that I've had to take the cycling trousers off again
without going biking, even if for a short run, and I've thrice made
the 20+km run to Kilmacsimon already this year without once getting
wet. But today was cold and wet and hail fell.
I feel sorry for people who live in places like the American midwest
and Canada and suchlike, and have this [censored] day after day for months
on end.

Hey, I rode a bicycle (Peugeot P-8 with minimal tread tires) to school
every day in junior high school in Wisconsin. Wore nothing more than a
wool cap, mittens and windbreaker over a cotton sweatshirt in the
winter. Never really was bothered by the weather.

See, it's turned you into a hard case. If you'd gone to school by SUV,
you could now be a grimacing softy.

Moving to Wisconsin from Quebec made the winters seem rather mild.

Of course, the last time it was really cold here was 1995, when it was
-35°C temperature, with a wind chill of -55°C. Of course, I worked
outside for the full day.

Later in the same year, I worked a full day outside with the temperature
being at 35°C and a heat index of 50°C.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

On Mar 4, 11:31 pm, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>

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Andre Jute said:

On Mar 5, 3:48 am, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>

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Andre Jute wrote:
> Every day when I rise I put on cycling trousers before I even open the
> curtains.
> Today was the first day since I started doing that in the second week
> of January that I've had to take the cycling trousers off again
> without going biking, even if for a short run, and I've thrice made
> the 20+km run to Kilmacsimon already this year without once getting
> wet. But today was cold and wet and hail fell.
> I feel sorry for people who live in places like the American midwest
> and Canada and suchlike, and have this [censored] day after day for months
> on end.
Hey, I rode a bicycle (Peugeot P-8 with minimal tread tires) to school
every day in junior high school in Wisconsin. Wore nothing more than a
wool cap, mittens and windbreaker over a cotton sweatshirt in the
winter. Never really was bothered by the weather.

Quoted message said:

See, it's turned you into a hard case. If you'd gone to school by SUV,
you could now be a grimacing softy.

Moving to Wisconsin from Quebec made the winters seem rather mild.

Of course, the last time it was really cold here was 1995, when it was
-35°C temperature, with a wind chill of -55°C. Of course, I worked
outside for the full day.

Later in the same year, I worked a full day outside with the temperature
being at 35°C and a heat index of 50°C.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Here in Ottawa it was predicted that we were in for a cold, hard
winter. Instead, it's actually been relatively mild, but damn have we
got a lot of snow! We had our largest single-day snowfall back on
Dec. 17, and the season total so far is 237cm (93 inches). As I type
we're getting hit with what could be another 20cm, and if that happens
then we'd be in 2nd place for our all-time snowfall accumulation.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2008/03/04/more-snow.html

I'm cycling as always, but am getting a little tired of the slush and
snow and will be downright giddy whenever Spring decides to show up.

Mark

time for a run on the beach

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Here in Ottawa it was predicted that we were in for a cold, hard
winter. Instead, it's actually been relatively mild, but damn have we
got a lot of snow! We had our largest single-day snowfall back on
Dec. 17, and the season total so far is 237cm (93 inches). As I type
we're getting hit with what could be another 20cm, and if that happens
then we'd be in 2nd place for our all-time snowfall accumulation.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2008/03/04/more-snow.html

I'm cycling as always, but am getting a little tired of the slush and
snow and will be downright giddy whenever Spring decides to show up.

Mark

Well Toronto received another 10-15cm last night. But forecasts call
for another 10 to 15 Friday. But presently it's 0 Celsius - positively
balmy. And sunny! Think I'll go for a ride...

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Mike [email protected] said:

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...> Every day when I rise I put on cycling trousers before I even open the

Quoted message said:

curtains.

Well, for your neigbours sake, I am glad you don't perform these tasks in the opposite order. But it is nice to hear of
someone else who is an all-season cyclist. The weather here is never really cold (although the 120 kmh winds can be a
bit of a trial), but sometimes I feel I am the only one in the city whodoes a regular cycle-commute in the wet season.

Mike

All-season cyclist, sure, but not all-weather cyclist. The point of "a
life of privilege" is that I live in Ireland which has, believe it or
not, what is officially described as a "Mediterranean climate".
Observably it hardly ever rains here so hard or often, or is so cold,
or so windy, that cycling is impossible -- or even uncomfortable. I
did wear long underwear for one ride this winter (for the first time
in several years), but in the main my gripes are mickey mouse stuff:
eyes that tear for a bit until I get warm, goggles that fog up. It's
stuff that the real hard men of cycling, who commute in snow and
whatnot, would just laugh off. Here's one for you: my paclite jacket
has gone mouldy in my rackpack -- because I haven't worn it in two or
three years; the implication is that in all that time, I have never
been caught in a rainstorm too heavy for the light cotton jacket I
often wear when it is a soft day -- local patois for the sort of
pervasive damp mist of tiny droplets, not quite rain, not quite dry,
for which tweeds is the recommended remedy for all but cyclists.

120kph winds? You're not serious, are you? 30kph and I stay home,
knowing that in an hour or two the wind will be gone.

Wellington, New Zealand isn't _all_ that different to Ireland in its weather - except for the fact that it moves past
us a lot faster! We are a bit drier (~1000 mm rain a year), a little warmer(summers around 20-23 C, winters 6-12 C on
a typoical day), snow very uncommon. But it is very windy. Something like 120 kph would be a fierce gust, but 80-90 kph
gusts are a weekly ocurrance, and it isn't uncommon to be cycling in 'stillair' at 35-40 kph (assuming you are
commuting in the 'right' direction). The cross-winds are the real killers.

About 18 years ago I spent 12 months and 24,000 km cycling all over Europe.To my best recollection, there were only 6-
7 days in the whole time and distance (up in Denmark mostly), that comparedin wind velocity to an 'average' spring or
autumn equinox day back at home.

Mike

datakoll said:

time for a run on the beach

Her husband's home?
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

"Andre Jute" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Every day when I rise I put on cycling trousers before I even open the
curtains.

Today was the first day since I started doing that in the second week
of January that I've had to take the cycling trousers off again
without going biking, even if for a short run, and I've thrice made
the 20+km run to Kilmacsimon already this year without once getting
wet. But today was cold and wet and hail fell.

I feel sorry for people who live in places like the American midwest
and Canada and suchlike, and have this [censored] day after day for months
on end.

Andre Jute
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/BICYCLE%20%26%20CYCLING.html

Hey my friend A Man!

We *choose* to live here. Ain't no chains on our ankles. Anyone who don't
like it, is free to leave. Many have indeed left this area for NV or AZ,
whatever. The only problem there, is obviously WATER because those states
are mostly DESERT. (Caps used because some folks who moved, for some reason
did not know beforehand, they were moving into the AMERICAN SOUTHWESTERN
DESERT.)

In my general part of the US, locals refer to these parts, various
affectionate ways - the Heartland - northern plains, couple others. My
great-great-grandparents emigrated from Germany and Austria. They got their
land through the Homestead Act of 1862. That land is still in my family
today. I will never sell it, though I do not live on it. Long story.

Long story short, we (in these parts) like the dramatic change of seasons.
We adapt.

Stoic German-Austrian J.

On Mar 5, 4:31 am, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>

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Andre Jute said:

On Mar 5, 3:48 am, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>

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Andre Jute wrote:
> Every day when I rise I put on cycling trousers before I even open the
> curtains.
> Today was the first day since I started doing that in the second week
> of January that I've had to take the cycling trousers off again
> without going biking, even if for a short run, and I've thrice made
> the 20+km run to Kilmacsimon already this year without once getting
> wet. But today was cold and wet and hail fell.
> I feel sorry for people who live in places like the American midwest
> and Canada and suchlike, and have this [censored] day after day for months
> on end.
Hey, I rode a bicycle (Peugeot P-8 with minimal tread tires) to school
every day in junior high school in Wisconsin. Wore nothing more than a
wool cap, mittens and windbreaker over a cotton sweatshirt in the
winter. Never really was bothered by the weather.

Quoted message said:

See, it's turned you into a hard case. If you'd gone to school by SUV,
you could now be a grimacing softy.

Moving to Wisconsin from Quebec made the winters seem rather mild.

Of course, the last time it was really cold here was 1995, when it was
-35°C temperature, with a wind chill of -55°C. Of course, I worked
outside for the full day.

Later in the same year, I worked a full day outside with the temperature
being at 35°C and a heat index of 50°C.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

I grew up in a desert called the Little Karroo. In summer noonday
temperatures could be 120 degrees Fahrenheit, in winter open water
would be frozen every morning. Left for more temperate climes as soon
as I could. Mind you, the heat didn't stop us boys taking twenty and
thirty mile cycling trips; we were used to it, and would swim in the
river on our return and complain about the water being cold, brrr.

Andre Jute
Sometime Bedouin

i carry a stick
looks like fun but a mask and special tool eg the jaws of maytag with
air tank in the duffel maybe a filter over the camera.

ahhhaaa Jute is a BABOON!

Mike [email protected] said:

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Mike [email protected] said:

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...> Every day when I rise I put on cycling trousers before I even open the
> curtains.

Quoted message said:

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Well, for your neigbours sake, I am glad you don't perform these tasksin the opposite order. But it is nice to hear of
someone else who is an all-season cyclist. The weather here is never really cold (although the 120 kmh winds can be a
bit of a trial), but sometimes I feel I am the only one in the city who does a regular cycle-commute in the wet season.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Mike

Quoted message said:

All-season cyclist, sure, but not all-weather cyclist. The point of "a
life of privilege" is that I live in Ireland which has, believe it or
not, what is officially described as a "Mediterranean climate".
Observably it hardly ever rains here so hard or often, or is so cold,
or so windy, that cycling is impossible -- or even uncomfortable. I
did wear long underwear for one ride this winter (for the first time
in several years), but in the main my gripes are mickey mouse stuff:
eyes that tear for a bit until I get warm, goggles that fog up. It's
stuff that the real hard men of cycling, who commute in snow and
whatnot, would just laugh off. Here's one for you: my paclite jacket
has gone mouldy in my rackpack -- because I haven't worn it in two or
three years; the implication is that in all that time, I have never
been caught in a rainstorm too heavy for the light cotton jacket I
often wear when it is a soft day -- local patois for the sort of
pervasive damp mist of tiny droplets, not quite rain, not quite dry,
for which tweeds is the recommended remedy for all but cyclists.

Quoted message said:

120kph winds? You're not serious, are you? 30kph and I stay home,
knowing that in an hour or two the wind will be gone.

Wellington, New Zealand isn't _all_ that different to Ireland in its weather - except for the fact that it moves past
us a lot faster! We are a bit drier (~1000 mm rain a year), a little warmer (summers around 20-23 C, winters 6-12 C on
a typoical day), snow very uncommon. But it is very windy. Something like 120 kph would be a fierce gust, but 80-90 kph
gusts are a weekly ocurrance, and it isn't uncommon to be cycling in 'still air' at 35-40 kph (assuming you are
commuting in the 'right' direction). The cross-winds are the real killers.

About 18 years ago I spent 12 months and 24,000 km cycling all over Europe.. To my best recollection, there were only 6-
7 days in the whole time and distance (up in Denmark mostly), that compared in wind velocity to an 'average' spring or
autumn equinox day back at home.

Mike

Denmark is practically flat, so the wind would bother you there if
there is any. But I live and ride in a set of low hills defining
valleys. We get some wind up the river -- I live right on the river
and am in fact listening to it burble as I write this -- but nothing
like that; once out of town any serious wind is noteworthy, though
there is one dangerous crossing. But I rode there fifteen years before
being blown of, and never knew about it until the truckie who picked
me up told me it was a dangerous corner for concentrating the wind.
The next day I bobbled around to my physician, a neighbour and a chum,
but he wasn't worried by the huge spreading bruise from my knee to my
armpit: "Why should I worrry?" he said. "You walked in here, didn't
you? I worry when you're carried in."

Andre Jute
Windfarms are a blight on the countryside, too

Jay said:

"Andre Jute" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Quoted message said:

Every day when I rise I put on cycling trousers before I even open the
curtains.

Quoted message said:

Today was the first day since I started doing that in the second week
of January that I've had to take the cycling trousers off again
without going biking, even if for a short run, and I've thrice made
the 20+km run to Kilmacsimon already this year without once getting
wet. But today was cold and wet and hail fell.

Quoted message said:

I feel sorry for people who live in places like the American midwest
and Canada and suchlike, and have this [censored] day after day for months
on end.

Quoted message said:

Andre Jute
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/BICYCLE%20%26%20CYCLING.html

Hey my friend A Man!

We *choose* to live here. Ain't no chains on our ankles. Anyone who don't
like it, is free to leave. Many have indeed left this area for NV or AZ,
whatever. The only problem there, is obviously WATER because those states
are mostly DESERT. (Caps used because some folks who moved, for some reason
did not know beforehand, they were moving into the AMERICAN SOUTHWESTERN
DESERT.)

In my general part of the US, locals refer to these parts, various
affectionate ways - the Heartland - northern plains, couple others. My
great-great-grandparents emigrated from Germany and Austria. They got their
land through the Homestead Act of 1862. That land is still in my family
today. I will never sell it, though I do not live on it. Long story.

Long story short, we (in these parts) like the dramatic change of seasons.
We adapt.

Stoic German-Austrian J.

I grew up in an official desert, though by the time I was into my
teens irrigation had made it really a semi-desert. Hot as hell, colder
than Alaska just before dawn on a winter's day. We used to go hang on
the fence at the airport to see the plane land. Before the stairs,
they'd wheel out two sofas. The stairs were very side because the
copilot and the flight attendant both stood at the top beside the
door. We were all waiting for the tourists to come out. British people
were absolutely guaranteed to come into that dry heat, 100 degress F
minimum, often much more, and keel right over while half out of the
plane door. Then they would be laid out on the benches and wheeled
into the shade.

I bet if I went back, I'd faint right in the plane door, despite
living half my life in hot countries like Africa, South America and
Australia.

Nothing stoic about me, Jay; I can't even imagine fatalism or
stoicism. I'm a viking with celtic song in his soul. I shall rage,
rage against they dying of the light (1) till my very last breath.

Andre Jute
Impedance is futile, you will be simulated into the Dutch city bike of
the Borg. (2)

(1) Thanks, Dylan. (2) Thanks, Gene.