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  1. I have a bunch of ideas for my next video, which I think will be my most
    elaborate to date. There will be a few comedy bits too, plus a 9 stair
    set attempt. (maybe even a 10!)

    But for this one, rather than shoot everything static with a tripod, I
    want to have a professional, or at least very experienced videographer
    shoot it from interesting angles, tracking shots, wide angle on some,
    and with a high end camera.

    As big plus it would be great if this person also had a pro editing
    program that could help me edit it with a really polished and
    professional look...for once lol! Should I just look in the yellow
    pages, or does anyone here have advice for finding somebody who can do
    this type of shooting?

    How much do you think 3-5 hours of the videographers time would cost?
    This total time would include going from place to place and setup time,
    and actual shooting time would be maybe 45-60 min of raw footage at
    most.

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  2. MuniAddict said:

    I have a bunch of ideas for my next video, which I think will be my most
    elaborate to date. There will be a few comedy bits too, plus a 9 stair
    set attempt. (maybe even a 10!)

    But for this one, rather than shoot everything static with a tripod, I
    want to have a professional, or at least very experienced videographer
    shoot it from interesting angles, tracking shots, wide angle on some,
    and with a high end camera.

    As big plus it would be great if this person also had a pro editing
    program that could help me edit it with a really polished and
    professional look...for once lol! Should I just look in the yellow
    pages, or does anyone here have advice for finding somebody who can do
    this type of shooting?

    How much do you think 3-5 hours of the videographers time would cost?
    This total time would include going from place to place and setup time,
    and actual shooting time would be maybe 45-60 min of raw footage at
    most.

    Just to warn you, you probably won't be able to get together a very
    good video with only 60 minutes of raw footage. I usually use about a
    half a minute for each hour of footage in a lot of my videos.

    -Miles

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  3. mornish said:

    Just to warn you, you probably won't be able to get together a very good
    video with only 60 minutes of raw footage. I usually use about a half a
    minute for each hour of footage in a lot of my videos.

    -Miles

    30 seconds of useable footage is all you get out of an HOUR of raw
    footage? So for a little 4 minute video, you need EIGHT hours of raw
    footage? Wow!:eek::eek::eek::eek:

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  4. MuniAddict said:

    30 seconds of useable footage is all you get out of an HOUR of raw
    footage? So for a little 4 minute video, you need EIGHT hours of raw
    footage? Wow!:eek::eek::eek::eek:

    haha yeah. I like putting tricks that I work on for a long time in my
    videos.

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  5. I would think it depends on how many locations you use and your success
    rate in each take. Doing a trials or street video may take more time
    due to maybe falling off or messing a trick up. If you are doing mostly
    MUni, or cokeuring and you have a good success rate for each take,
    you'll probably take less time.

    Just my two cents.

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  6. CoreTechs said:

    I would think it depends on how many locations you use and your success
    rate in each take. Doing a trials or street video may take more time
    due to maybe falling off or messing a trick up. If you are doing mostly
    MUni, or cokeuring and you have a good success rate for each take,
    you'll probably take less time.

    Just my two cents.

    Yeah. I like putting new tricks and lines in my videos, so usually that
    involves very large amounts of trials before I get each one.

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  7. mornish said:

    haha yeah. I like putting tricks that I work on for a long time in my
    videos.

    So the why not pratice/rehearse the tricks 'till you get them the way
    you want 'em, *then* turn on the camera!

    It's kinda like when I've done TV; first we rehearse to get everything
    right, THEN the cameras roll. Will still do a few takes if necessary,
    but all the hard work is done before they say "action."😎

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  8. I dont have much advice, but this sounds like a sweet idea, and maybe
    expensive. lol

    Im excited to see the end result.

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  9. Yea... I usually use a lot more raw footage then that to. Mostly
    because I set up my camera and film myself trying something for a long
    time before I acually do it. That way I have every attempt, so i can
    pick a good fall to use, and also me acually landing it on film. I
    could end up with 30 mins - an hour of footage just for one line or
    trick. But I guess it would depend on the type of video it is. If
    there is more cokering around, then it wouldn't take very many attempts
    to get the shot you want, and your shots would be longer then just a
    small clip of one trick.

    Good Luck with your video, I'm looking forward to seeing it

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  10. MuniAddict said:

    So then why not pratice/rehearse the tricks 'till you get them the way
    you want 'em, *then* turn on the camera!

    It's kinda like when I've done TV; first we rehearse to get everything
    right, THEN the cameras roll. Will still do some extra takes if
    necessary, but all the hard work is done before they say "action", so
    only a minimum of taping is needed.😎

    Because, here is an example.

    I spent about 4 hours in one day trying double rolling wraps. I filmed
    all of it. by the time I did it, I was way way too tired to even think
    of trying another one, to hell with the 3 time rule.

    Good luck with the video.

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  11. mornish said:

    Because, here is an example.

    I spent about 4 hours in one day trying double rolling wraps. I filmed
    all of it. by the time I did it, I was way way too tired to even think
    of trying another one, to hell with the 3 time rule.

    Good luck with the video.

    haha well I'll have to try that method! But I can't do all that cool
    flatland and street stuff, so that probably explains my lack of hours
    and hours of raw footage lol! But I am trying to learn 360 unispins,
    leg/seat wraps (or w/e they're called lol) and crank flips, so I will
    probably need to have extra DVR tapes on hand!:o

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  12. Maybe you should consider taking a Video Production class. I imagine
    hiring a professional videographer will be very expensive. It may be
    more beneficial for you to invest your money in a class and learn the
    basics of production and editing. From there you may make some
    connections too.

    In most cases, the capability of the camera has nothing to do with the
    quality of the production. In otherwords, it's not about the camera,
    but the person operating it.

    EDIT: I forgot to mention, I already enjoy your videos as they are. But
    I look forward to seeing this one if you go through with it.

    EDIT AGAIN: If not a class, I strongly recommend 'this book'
    (http://tinyurl.com/25abbw). A bit pricey, but I've learned a lot from
    it.

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  13. MuniAddict said:

    haha well I'll have to try that method! But I can't do all that cool
    flatland and street stuff, so that probably explains my lack of hours
    and hours of raw footage lol! But I am trying to learn 360 unispins,
    leg/seat wraps (or w/e they're called lol) and crank flips, so I will
    probably need to have extra DVR tapes on hand!:o

    i can do back flips now😎

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  14. mornish said:

    Because, here is an example.

    I spent about 4 hours in one day trying double rolling wraps. I filmed
    all of it. by the time I did it, I was way way too tired to even think
    of trying another one, to hell with the 3 time rule.

    Good luck with the video.

    Now that's some dedication!

    I'd get too bored trying the same thing over and over for four hours.

    Although once when I was learning to ride backwards, SIF, & SIB I did
    them alternately for six hours strieght, only breaking for water, a
    bite of food, or the bathroom.

    Edit:

    Chexjc said:

    From there you may make some connections too.

    And maybee meet someone who has proffesional aspirations and is willing
    to make your vid as a way of showcasing their video tallent.

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  15. Chexjc said:

    Maybe you should consider taking a Video Production class. I imagine
    hiring a professional videographer will be very expensive. It may be
    more beneficial for you to invest your money in a class and learn the
    basics of production and editing. From there you may make some
    connections too.

    In most cases, the capability of the camera has nothing to do with the
    quality of the production. In otherwords, it's not about the camera,
    but the person operating it.

    EDIT: I forgot to mention, I already enjoy your videos as they are. But
    I look forward to seeing this one if you go through with it.

    EDIT AGAIN: If not a class, I strongly recommend 'this book'
    (http://tinyurl.com/25abbw). A bit pricey, but I've learned a lot from
    it.

    Thanks. Well, my main motivation is to have somebody else shoot the
    video, instead of my using a tripod and shooting everything static.
    Even if I used my camera, and I did the editing as usual, at least it
    would look better than all tripod shots imo.🙂

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  16. I'll do it.

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  17. MuniAddict said:

    Thanks. Well, my main motivation is to have somebody else shoot the
    video, instead of my using a tripod and shooting everything static.
    Even if I used my camera, and I did the editing as usual, at least it
    would look better than all tripod shots imo.🙂

    Of course 🙂 I kinda looked over your main motivation accidentally. You
    obviously can't achieve those tracking shots without a video crew.

    You have the right idea in using the tripod though. A videographer
    would probably use a tripod for most of his shots. I'm really impressed
    by a lot of the videos some of the people on these forums make with
    just a camera and tripod.

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    30 seconds of useable footage is all you get out of an HOUR of raw
    footage? So for a little 4 minute video, you need EIGHT hours of raw
    footage? Wow!:eek::eek::eek::eek:

    I filmed for 6 hours.
    I used less than 1 hour of footage, but that's because if the trick did
    not come out right, I would rewind and do it over. All this for a 4
    minute vid.

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  19. Sorry, I am on the wrong coast.🙄 Fly me out and I will do it
    for free.😉

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  20. Sorry, I am on the wrong coast.🙄 Fly me out and I will do it
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