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  1. My road bike has a 1 1/8 threadless carbon fork w/ integrated headset,
    metal steer tube. I have a 90mm 7 degree stem and the reach seems
    about right. (I've tried 80 and 100).

    I'd like to get a little more height for the handle bars - I'm only
    looking for 1/2 - 1 inch (~2 cm). I've tried stem flipped up and down
    - there is a tiny difference, but not major.

    My options are to get a higher angled stem or a steer tube extender.
    Oh, I guess I could buy a new fork, but I'm not going to.

    There are also two extenders that appear to be available. I'm familiar
    with the ones that clamp onto the steer tube and extend upward:
    http://tinyurl.com/27pr46

    I recently found a completely different style: http://tinyurl.com/2gbeaz.
    Basically, instead of clamping around the exterior of the head tube as
    the other kind does, this one has an internal expansion plug (I guess
    it's similar to a quill stem?).

    The accompanying text says:

    Size: 28.6/25.4
    Adapter that enables you to make your steering tube longer
    Does not effect the function of the Ahead system
    Compatible with threaded and threadless headsets
    Comes with a lightweight alloy BBB Roundhead head cap

    Has anyone used one of these? Will it work for what I need?

    I'm thinking I'd have to remove the star nut and place this inside the
    steer tube. The expansion wedge at the bottom would connect it solidly
    to the steer tube. I'd then have to set the bearings by pulling up on
    it, or maybe the star nut would then go inside the extension tube?

    Anyway, for $12, I might just buy one and try it, but I was wondering
    if anyone was familiar with this thing.

    Thanks in advance.

  2. Camilo writes;

    Quoted message said:

    There are also two extenders that appear to be available.
    I'm familiar with the ones that clamp onto the steer
    tube and extend upward: http://tinyurl.com/27pr46

    The above is the one you want.

    Quoted message said:

    I recently found a completely different style:


    http://tinyurl.com/2gbeaz. Basically, instead

    Quoted message said:

    of clamping around the exterior of the head tube as
    the other kind does, this one has an internal expansion
    plug (I guess it's similar to a quill stem?).


    As mentioned, the above item extends the steering tube. Example if you
    wanted to adapt forks from a smaller frame to a larger frame this item
    would be the "alternative" to buying new forks with a proper length
    steering tube. You may be able to use this extension with several mm's
    of spacers but I wouldn't.

    If you think about it just a bit more Camilo I think you'll choose the
    former versus the later.

    Best Regards - Mike Baldwin

  3. Typo Alert - later should be ladder... 🙂

    Best Regards - Mike _LATTER_ Baldwin

  4. The problem with the extender is that the minimum amount of extra height you
    get is the height of the part that's large enough to fit over the existing
    steerer, and that's going to be a bit more than twice the additional 2cm you
    speak of...

    An 8cm plus/minus 17 degree stem when flipped up will give you just over 2cm
    extra height and the same reach as about a 7.5cm 90 degree stem.

    Extender #2 (internal wedge) would only be for steel steerers.

    Nick

    "Camilo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    My road bike has a 1 1/8 threadless carbon fork w/ integrated headset,
    metal steer tube. I have a 90mm 7 degree stem and the reach seems
    about right. (I've tried 80 and 100).

    I'd like to get a little more height for the handle bars - I'm only
    looking for 1/2 - 1 inch (~2 cm). I've tried stem flipped up and down
    - there is a tiny difference, but not major.

    My options are to get a higher angled stem or a steer tube extender.
    Oh, I guess I could buy a new fork, but I'm not going to.

    There are also two extenders that appear to be available. I'm familiar
    with the ones that clamp onto the steer tube and extend upward:
    http://tinyurl.com/27pr46

    I recently found a completely different style: http://tinyurl.com/2gbeaz.
    Basically, instead of clamping around the exterior of the head tube as
    the other kind does, this one has an internal expansion plug (I guess
    it's similar to a quill stem?).

    The accompanying text says:

    Size: 28.6/25.4
    Adapter that enables you to make your steering tube longer
    Does not effect the function of the Ahead system
    Compatible with threaded and threadless headsets
    Comes with a lightweight alloy BBB Roundhead head cap

    Has anyone used one of these? Will it work for what I need?

    I'm thinking I'd have to remove the star nut and place this inside the
    steer tube. The expansion wedge at the bottom would connect it solidly
    to the steer tube. I'd then have to set the bearings by pulling up on
    it, or maybe the star nut would then go inside the extension tube?

    Anyway, for $12, I might just buy one and try it, but I was wondering
    if anyone was familiar with this thing.

    Thanks in advance.


  5. Quoted message said:

    Camilo writes;

    Quoted message said:

    There are also two extenders that appear to be available.
    I'm familiar with the ones that clamp onto the steer
    tube and extend upward: http://tinyurl.com/27pr46

    Michael Baldwin said:

    The above is the one you want.

    Can that type be chopped down to a desired length similar to a fork's
    steerer tube? It's seems that it could, but I've no experience with these.

    --
    Paul M. Hobson
    ..:change the f to ph to reply:.

  6. On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:47:51 -0800 (PST), Camilo <[email hidden]>

    may have said:

    My road bike has a 1 1/8 threadless carbon fork w/ integrated headset,
    metal steer tube. I have a 90mm 7 degree stem and the reach seems
    about right. (I've tried 80 and 100).

    I'd like to get a little more height for the handle bars - I'm only
    looking for 1/2 - 1 inch (~2 cm). I've tried stem flipped up and down
    - there is a tiny difference, but not major.

    My options are to get a higher angled stem or a steer tube extender.
    Oh, I guess I could buy a new fork, but I'm not going to.

    There are also two extenders that appear to be available. I'm familiar
    with the ones that clamp onto the steer tube and extend upward:
    http://tinyurl.com/27pr46

    I recently found a completely different style: http://tinyurl.com/2gbeaz.
    Basically, instead of clamping around the exterior of the head tube as
    the other kind does, this one has an internal expansion plug (I guess
    it's similar to a quill stem?).

    The accompanying text says:

    Size: 28.6/25.4
    Adapter that enables you to make your steering tube longer
    Does not effect the function of the Ahead system
    Compatible with threaded and threadless headsets
    Comes with a lightweight alloy BBB Roundhead head cap

    Has anyone used one of these? Will it work for what I need?

    Maybe. If your steerer is steel, there's a good chance that the ID is
    compatible with that item. If your steerer is aluminum, all bets are
    off. That's not the only problem, though...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm thinking I'd have to remove the star nut and place this inside the
    steer tube.

    Yup.

    Quoted message said:

    The expansion wedge at the bottom would connect it solidly
    to the steer tube.

    With some potential caveats. If the wedge grips in the vicinity of
    the upper bearing of the headset, you could end up distorting the
    steerer enough to make the headset inner race oval instead of round.
    This is not very likely, but not outside the realm of possibility.
    This device also mkaes it a trifle less certain that you'll be able to
    get the headset correctly loaded; if you use it, I recommend getting a
    seatpost binder of the appropriate ID, filing off the lip inside (if
    it has one), and installing that as a clamp immediately above the
    upper bearing instead of relying solely on the shim stack and the stem
    to do the job. (Keep the shims installed, though; belt and suspenders
    is safer than either alone.)

    Quoted message said:

    I'd then have to set the bearings by pulling up on
    it, or maybe the star nut would then go inside the extension tube?

    If it uses a star nut inside, you have problems getting to the binder
    bolt for the expansion wedge.

    Quoted message said:

    Anyway, for $12, I might just buy one and try it, but I was wondering
    if anyone was familiar with this thing.

    I have something similar around here somewhere as a problem
    solver...but I haven't had to leave it installed on a bike yet.

    I've also seem an extender that slips over the steerer and clamps in
    place like a stem. If you need more than two inches of added rise,
    they can be useful.

    --
    My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
    Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  7. Camilo said:

    I recently found a completely different style: http://tinyurl.com/2gbeaz.
    Basically, instead of clamping around the exterior of the head tube as
    the other kind does, this one has an internal expansion plug (I guess
    it's similar to a quill stem?).

    Quoted message said:

    Anyway, for $12, I might just buy one and try it, but I was wondering
    if anyone was familiar with this thing.

    I've used something similar. It worked fine. I don't know if they make
    any provision for setting the headset preload, but you can always do it
    by just pressing down on the stem.

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