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  1. Has anyone tried using cyclocross levers to make a single V-brake use
    both a cyclocross (normal) and a gear-shifter (drag) brake?

    I know cyclocross levers are designed for canti-brakes.

    I don't yet own the 29:er that I would possibly do this to, but a just
    thought it would be an interesting idea, perfhaps for the 36" group
    with a T7 and a wish for both functions...

    For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about these pictures
    may help a little bit:

    [image: http://www.edurance.com/catalog/images/cross_levers.lg.jpg]

    [image:
    http://tandem-fahren.de/Mitglieder/Christoph_Timm/doppelbremse.jpg]

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  2. I was investigating that idea when I was building up my current Coker.
    I ended up going with Maguras and forgoing the drag brake option.

    The combination of the cyclocross style brake lever and a friction
    lever drag brake ought to work. The challenge is in finding a
    combination of components that work together. You need to find a brake
    system that works with the amount of cable pull from the cyclocross
    brake lever. Cantilever brakes and other styles of brakes are designed
    for different amounts of cable pull. I can't recall if I managed to
    find a cyclocross lever that could be used with something other than
    cantilever brakes. There are special pulleys available for V-brakes so
    they can work with canti levers. So that's one option.

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  3. With a Hunter style frame (Or N36) there's no reason why you couldn't
    have 2 pairs of calipers, each connected to a different style of
    lever.

    Anyway, the nicest solution I have seen to this problem (from an
    engineering point of view) is this;
    http://tinyurl.com/3cboer
    Not sure how well it actually works, but it looks fantastic!

    STM

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  4. STM, that should work fine provided that the bar moves straight up and
    down, the way that you might do that is add some pegs that go into a
    slot in the surronding metal that keeps it straight. Currently it
    looks like you would pull on either brake lever and it would pull on
    the bar, turning it, and not allowing it to function as well.

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  5. scotthue said:

    STM, that should work fine provided that the bar moves straight up and
    down, the way that you might do that is add some pegs that go into a
    slot in the surronding metal that keeps it straight. Currently it
    looks like you would pull on either brake lever and it would pull on
    the bar, turning it, and not allowing it to function as well.

    Isn't the point that it turns? The left hand side is presumably the
    gear shifter, and having that a long way from the out cable means that
    it can be adjusted finely, whereas the right hand side is near to the
    output cable, so the proper brake lever has a pretty much 1:1 effect on
    the brake.

    It seems like a lot of effort to go to for a drag brake, and surely
    would cost more than getting a set of maguras. If you have magura
    hs33s, can't you use the pad adjust dial as a drag brake? At least if
    the pads aren't too worn and the maguras have enough fluid in them you
    should be able to.

    Joe

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  6. joemarshall said:


    It seems like a lot of effort to go to for a drag brake, and surely
    would cost more than getting a set of maguras.

    After all the work in the 'rest of the unicycle'
    (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/53455673IEXgQD), I don't
    think that the extra stuff for a drag brake will be much of a problem
    :-)

    STM

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  7. I did this a while back and it seems to work ok-ish, although I haven't
    ridden the uni with the brake that much to have a lot of exp with it.
    With some engineering fiddling and some customization of parts it could
    be good.

    The reason I haven't ridden it that much is simply because other parts
    of the uni were also experimental and they ended up riding a little
    weird.

    Setting up the brake was actually pretty labor intensive because of
    space constraints and the overwhelming issue of cable drag. If you are
    into that kind of thing, it was fun. Otherwise, just go for a ride
    instead. 😉

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