Might spend money on a Full Suspension uni

I believe the word "full" is unnecessary here. 🙂

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i had an idea a little while ago about the whole suspension uni thing.
so lets say you cut a hub in half, hollow out the inside so theres
space in side, weld a heavy spring to the two ends on the inside so it
could twist, attach the to halves so they could twist but not pull
apart then build your wheel.

I have no clue if this will work at all because i have no clue how much
force is being put on it. nor do i know if the rim would work if the
spokes were constantly twisting.

just wanted to run it by the more experienced engineers.

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sounds good i guess, but, are you talking about mounting like 2 seperate
wheels so to speak on it?

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or.... we could take a guni and mount it so the gears/chain can
slide/move with the wheel. So the frame and pedals will stay hooked
together sorta. i'll just draw up plans and scan em or something...
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had you considered that the shocks and springs from a bike would be far
too stiff for this use?

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if they were too soft the rim would squash and break

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The problem with the first design is that however much travel you give
it, it will rotate by up to that amount when you pedal, and wind up,
when you stop pedalling it will unwind. You can actually buy some cheap
nasty unicycles made like this. They don't work because of the wind up.

To make a full suspension muni, you really need to make some kind of
giraffe or equivalent cos the pedals need to not be fixed to the wheel
axis.

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unibikeling said:

if they were too soft the rim would squash and break

yes, so you need to find a happy medium, and standard bike shocks won't
be it.

Also what Joe said, I've ridden one of those crappy 3 shock spoke uni
bike things, altering the shock stiffness changes the ride from too
stiff to make any difference, to too sloppy to ride in a straight line,
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i think i know just what your talking about
edit: i just drew this up like 5 minutes ago, its my idea for a
suspensioned frame
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unibikeling said:

I was reading about the Guwi, and i began to think back to summer. I had
read a few times and read other threads, about full suspension
unicycles. Mostly just plans. I decided that at some point (now the
near future) that i'd buy 3-5 rock shocks, and mount them in a rim. I
had it all solved. 5 shocks probably, so the rim doesnt taco totaly.
And then each has pivots in them, on the rim, so it will be able to
move when the tire does. The frame would need to be entirely custom
built, as to acomidate the tire. I'd end up using the back tire off an
enduro motorcycle, which the the rim would be just stiff enough not to
taco, and a frame that would give a few inches of freespace between
tire and frame. Either that, or i'd take like 7 smaller shocks, and
mount them in like a 24'' rim. It wouldnt taco as easily, that in
itself would work fairly well. Well, care to add suggestions? lol, post
any further ideas. and I KNOW THAT THERES a thread like this, but this
is my ideas on it. And im also planning to do this at some point, and
maybe bring her to mondo

You would have to have one of the shocks mounted solidly to reduce
windup (able to completely eliminate😕:o )
'The best working prototype I've seen' (http://tinyurl.com/3dxkw7). If
you use 3 shocks + spokes like the second in there you wouldn't taco
the wheel, plus lighter and prob less expensive.
'Full thread.' (http://tinyurl.com/2wsra7)

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I don't mean any of this in a sarcastic tone, I only mean it in more of
a "I'm asking because I don't understand" way. For all of the work
(new frame, hub and wheel R+D), what's the payoff once you ride as
opposed to a standard muni? It may be a bit smoother feeling when
riding offroad but will you be able to tolerate the associated
consequences of a suspension frame? Also, most of your weight is on
the pedals when you land so how will that force be displaced into the
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see, in my system, the pedals arent connected to the hub directly, its
seperated, the hub moves from in the frame, ive got so many bugs to
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ah, ok. that would be a bit different then. I'm no engineer, but do
keep in mind that the "bottom bracket" type rigging you make for the
pedals/cranks/spindle will need to be in a suspended state or you'll
still feel like you're landing on solid unsupported ground :p

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A recumbent I once used (Easy Racer Tour Easy) had some kind of
suspension hub in the front wheel.
I wouldn't call it suspension, it was more of a give that reduced
impact on the handlebars.
It was pretty neat actually, but i really feel the only reason it
worked was because so little weight is focused on the front wheel on
long wheel base recumbents.

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[image:
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This suspension thing got me thinking and I came up with this.Basically
it is a single pivot swingarm that could use mtb rear shocks.Chain
driven on both sides because of split cranks.The chain length would
remain constant through the suspension travel as the sprockets share
the swingarm pivots.It would have a large Q factor to have room for the
shocks.Would it be rideable and would it exhibit desirable
characteristics with the cranks offset to the rear of the wheel.I dont
know the answer to that ,I have no intention of building it but it
doesn't hurt to have a think about these things.

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looks cool. Currently im working on fashioning out some plans for my
chain driven idea, but like a midget girraffe on steroids, odd concept
i think, and it'd end up weighing a bit, unless i can get half of it in
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If anyone wants a suspension uni frame http://tinyurl.com/24svbs

It can be yours for $10 + shipping

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pdc said:

If anyone wants a suspension uni frame http://tinyurl.com/24svbs

It can be yours for $10 + shipping

Ahh but the holy grail for suspension uni's is to have the cranks on
the spongy side of the suspension.The picture in the link does no more
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dangerdog said:

Would it be rideable and would it exhibit desirable characteristics with
the cranks offset to the rear of the wheel.I dont know the answer to
that ,I have no intention of building it but it doesn't hurt to have
a think about these things.

I'd guess it would be better ridden the other way, with the pedals in
front of the axle. This would make the riding position more natural
(it would be pretty much like a bike, with pedals slightly in front of
the saddle) and would also seem a better way for the suspension to
pivot. It would be cool to build one just to see what it was like - it
seems like it would be over-complicating things but look at the
monstrosities of full-suspension bikes people ride! I must say I'm a
bit skeptical that it would be better (or even as good as) a big
low-pressure tyre though.

Somebody with the skills, time and resources needs to build one and see
what it's like - it would make a nice novelty machine if nothing else.

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