MV

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If anyone wants to email MV they should copyright their message with a copyright notice (just to
make sure) and make it clear that they do not

want

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their private email published in a newsgroup.

Even though that has been done before, he has still been known to go ahead and post emails,
without consent - which is a direct violation of his terms&conditions..

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Keep on doing it mike, and you may just loose that old account of yours.

Big deal. He'll just get another like he has done in the past. I wouldn't even notice him if posts
like yours wouldn't keep bringing him up.

Matt (got him killfiled)

eauctionbargains said:

If anyone wants to email MV they should copyright their message with a copyright notice (just to
make sure) and make it clear that they do not want their private email published in a newsgroup.

There is another option - don't e-mail him. Its not like the troll is going to pay attention to what
anyone has to say to him anyway. Other than naivete, there really is no excuse for trying to engage
him in discussion.

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Keep on doing it mike, and you may just loose that old account of yours.

Whoopie. He's lost accounts before; he can get another one within the same day. Its not like ISPs
are so conscientious that they would refuse to accept a customer just because he lost an account
somewhere else, assuming they even knew in the first place (which is unlikely).

Get real about this: a legless man can count on his toes all the trails that Mike Vandeman's
"crusade" has personally been responsible for closing. And Vandeman's been at this for how long -
ten years or so? He's meaningless outside of this newsgroup, and not very meaningful here. If you
weren't on Usenet, its unlikely you would have ever even heard of him.

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-BB- To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)

eauctionbargains said:

If anyone wants to email MV they should copyright their message with a copyright notice (just to
make sure) and make it clear that they do not want their private email published in a newsgroup.

Keep on doing it mike, and you may just loose that old account of yours.

Or better yet, don't bother with him in the first place. It's just digital masturbation, nothing
meaningful will come of it and you'll just end up more frustrated in the end.

kantspel <[email hidden]> had this to say
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eauctionbargains said:

If anyone wants to email MV they should copyright their message with a copyright notice (just to
make sure) and make it clear that they do not want their private email published in a newsgroup.

Keep on doing it mike, and you may just loose that old account of yours.

Or better yet, don't bother with him in the first place. It's just digital masturbation, nothing
meaningful will come of it and you'll just end up more frustrated in the end.

So true of many things the internet brings actually.

"eauctionbargains" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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If anyone wants to email MV they should copyright their message with a copyright notice (just to
make sure) and make it clear that they do not

want

Quoted message said:

their private email published in a newsgroup.

Even though that has been done before, he has still been known to go ahead and post emails,
without consent - which is a direct violation of his terms&conditions..

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Keep on doing it mike, and you may just loose that old account of yours.

technically speaking, written e-mail doesn't need a copyright notification for it to be copyrighted
and thus protected. it's implied in the nature of the message that it won't be disclosed to anybody
without the author's consent. This is on record as law so the copyright notice is unnecessary

Michael

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:58:01 +0000 (UTC), "eauctionbargains"
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You didn't read far enough. Nor well enough:

"An example of fair use is if you respond to a posting, and quote sections of the post you're
responding to. As long as the quoted article wasn’t anything valuable (it’s just part of a
discussion), and you indicated that the quoted sections were from the other person’s original
message, this would probably be considered "fair use" of that person’s copyrighted posting."
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You didn't read far enough. Nor well enough:

"An example of fair use is if you respond to a posting, and quote sections of the post you're
responding to. As long as the quoted article wasn’t anything valuable (it’s just part of a
discussion), and you indicated that the quoted sections were from the other person’s original
message, this would probably be considered "fair use" of that person’s copyrighted posting."
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This MV dolt using "fair use" seems a bit disingenuous , no? Could just be me and my fern killing tendencies talking though.

K.

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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:58:01 +0000 (UTC), "eauctionbargains" <eauctionbargains-nospamplease-
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You didn't read far enough. Nor well enough:

"An example of fair use is if you respond to a posting, and quote sections

of

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the post you're responding to. As long as the quoted article wasn't

anything

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valuable (it's just part of a discussion), and you indicated that the

quoted

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sections were from the other person's original message, this would

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considered "fair use" of that person's copyrighted posting."
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And you cant understand what you read......

"if you respond to a posting"

You didnt respond to a posting, you responded to a private email......

You also like to post full emails, not sections....

Get a life mike........

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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:58:01 +0000 (UTC), "eauctionbargains" <eauctionbargains-nospamplease-
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You didn't read far enough. Nor well enough:

"An example of fair use is if you respond to a posting, and quote

sections

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the post you're responding to. As long as the quoted article wasn't

anything

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valuable (it's just part of a discussion), and you indicated that the

quoted

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sections were from the other person's original message, this would

probably be

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And you cant understand what you read......

"if you respond to a posting"

You didnt respond to a posting, you responded to a private email......

You also like to post full emails, not sections....

Get a life mike........

Actually I stand corrected, you did post a snippet, but one snippet you posted stated

"This message is Between ME and YOU, not for public viewing unless i give consent"

So you have automatically broke your terms and conditions, I suggest you do the honourable thing and
quit your account, unless you want it on public record (WHICH THIS ALL IS) that you cant stand by
your word, and openly dont mind breaking your terms and conditions.

Mike, You [censored] me off, and you [censored] most people in this newsgroup.

I find you funny, but annoying, as you upset some people, and that is not on.

You are publicly in the wrong.

Face it.

move on.

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 00:54:28 +0000 (UTC), "eauctionbargains"
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. ."eauctionbargains" <[email hidden]> wrote in .message
"]news:[email hidden]... .> .> "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message .> "]news:[email hidden]... .> > On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:58:01
+0000 (UTC), "eauctionbargains" .> > <[email hidden]> wrote: .> > .> >
.help.sbcglobal.netarticle.phpOpen ↗ .> > .> > You didn't read far enough. Nor well
enough: .> > .> > "An example of fair use is if you respond to a posting, and quote .sections .> of
.> > the post you're responding to. As long as the quoted article wasn't .> anything .> > valuable
(it's just part of a discussion), and you indicated that the .> quoted .> > sections were from the
other person's original message, this would .> probably be .> > considered "fair use" of that
person's copyrighted posting." .> > === .> > I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-
limits to .> > humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 .> > years fighting
auto dependence and road construction.) .> > .> > home.pacbell.netmjvandeOpen ↗ .> .> And you cant
understand what you read...... .> .> "if you respond to a posting" .> .> You didnt respond to a
posting, you responded to a private email...... .> .> You also like to post full emails, not
sections.... .> .> Get a life mike........ .> .> .> .> . .Actually I stand corrected, you did post a
snippet, but one snippet you .posted stated . ."This message is Between ME and YOU, not for public
viewing unless i give .consent" . .So you have automatically broke your terms and conditions, I
suggest you do .the honourable thing and quit your account, unless you want it on public .record
(WHICH THIS ALL IS) that you cant stand by your word, and openly dont .mind breaking your terms and
conditions. . . .Mike, You [censored] me off, and you [censored] most people in this newsgroup. . .I find
you funny, but annoying, as you upset some people, and that is not .on. . . .You are publicly in the
wrong. . .Face it. . .move on.

I have no obligation not to publish the rubbish mountain bikers send me. In fact, publishing it is
the best way to deal with it. If you want secrecy, join the NSA.
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