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Apparent asymmetry and odd lacing?

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  1. Hi guys,

    A little background first:

    I've just finished trueing/tensioning a wheel consisting of a 28H rim laced 3X to a 36H, high flange hub. (Why? well, using the bits I had it was the easiest way to achieve the configuration I wanted.)

    This combo obviously required several different spoke lengths, so I did a drawing that described where the spokes would have been in a 28H hub and where they would end up using the closest available holes in the 36H hub. Based on this I was then able to come up with a pretty decent guesstimate for what correction factor to add/subtract to the normal spoke length for a 28H hub depending on the spoke's position in the pattern.

    Anyhow, the wheel went together surprisingly easy, and only a few spokes had to be replaced with other lengths. I've gotten it true and round to within 1 mm, and spoke tension(measured) is also quite even throughout.

    As a final step before applying the rim tape I measured how much each spoke penetrated into its nipple, and here's where it gets a tad confusing.
    Regardless the mismatch hub/rim, I'm still using repeating patterns, left side mirrors the right side, when viewed axially the left half of the wheel mirrors the right half, spoke lengths are corrected the same way depending on their position in the pattern.

    Yet when I find a spoke with low penetration in one place in the pattern, the next spoke in a corresponding position migh very well have a perfect amount of penetration ASO.

    Why is this, what feature of wheel geometry is it that I'm missing?

  2. dabac said:

    Hi guys,

    A little background first:

    I've just finished trueing/tensioning a wheel consisting of a 28H rim
    laced 3X to a 36H, high flange hub. (Why? well, using the bits I had it
    was the easiest way to achieve the configuration I wanted.)

    This combo obviously required several different spoke lengths, so I did
    a drawing that described where the spokes would have been in a 28H hub
    and where they would end up using the closest available holes in the 36H
    hub. Based on this I was then able to come up with a pretty decent
    guesstimate for what correction factor to add/subtract to the normal
    spoke length for a 28H hub depending on the spoke's position in the
    pattern.

    Anyhow, the wheel went together surprisingly easy, and only a few
    spokes had to be replaced with other lengths. I've gotten it true and
    round to within 1 mm, and spoke tension(measured) is also quite even
    throughout.

    As a final step before applying the rim tape I measured how much each
    spoke penetrated into its nipple, and here's where it gets a tad
    confusing.
    Regardless the mismatch hub/rim, I'm still using repeating patterns,
    left side mirrors the right side, when viewed axially the left half of
    the wheel mirrors the right half, spoke lengths are corrected the same
    way depending on their position in the pattern.

    Yet when I find a spoke with low penetration in one place in the
    pattern, the next spoke in a corresponding position migh very well have
    a perfect amount of penetration ASO.

    Why is this, what feature of wheel geometry is it that I'm missing?


    If you built the wheel one side then the other, are you sure your first
    spoke on the second side went in the correct hub hole? It's rather easy
    to get this wrong.

  3. Zog The Undeniable said:

    If you built the wheel one side then the other, are you sure your first
    spoke on the second side went in the correct hub hole? It's rather easy
    to get this wrong.

    1) how do you tell?
    2) I've got the valve hole lined up between "parallell" spokes, so I'm pleased with that.
    3) I'm using a high-flange hub (78 mm spoke hole diameter), distance between spoke holes is HUGE compared to more common hub designs (and boosted by the fact that I'm skipping some). Together with the 3X I don't think it's possible to lace it one hole wrong with the spoke lengths I had available.

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