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  1. Since it's pretty much settled that Jesus would have ridden a bike,
    let's debate now what the Devil would have driven...

    David V. said:

    donquijote1954 wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I thought he drove an SUV. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    "The Devil" does not exist. But you do remind me of Don Quixote.
    His SUV polluted too.

    DonQuixote rode a horse, Rocinante, and Sancho rode a donkey, like
    Jesus.

    The Devil does not exist but Christians are often found doing evil
    things. I have no doubt in my mind though that the Devil would have
    driven an SUV if he existed.

    WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE
    http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote

  2. I'm not of any religious persuasion that is easy to explain, but I find the
    fact that you keep making all sorts of flames based on religion is getting
    to be a little offensive.

    "donquijote1954" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Since it's pretty much settled that Jesus would have ridden a bike,
    let's debate now what the Devil would have driven...

    David V. said:

    donquijote1954 wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I thought he drove an SUV. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    "The Devil" does not exist. But you do remind me of Don Quixote.
    His SUV polluted too.

    DonQuixote rode a horse, Rocinante, and Sancho rode a donkey, like
    Jesus.

    The Devil does not exist but Christians are often found doing evil
    things. I have no doubt in my mind though that the Devil would have
    driven an SUV if he existed.

    WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE
    http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote

  3. donquijote1954 said:

    Since it's pretty much settled that Jesus would have ridden a bike,
    let's debate now what the Devil would have driven...

    Since when was it decided that the son of god would have ridden a bike.
    Personally I don't believe in any of the whole supreme being deal or the
    devil for that matter. But if I did I would say the devil would have
    driven something with an evil sounding name like "Viper"

  4. "Just A User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    donquijote1954 said:

    Since it's pretty much settled that Jesus would have ridden a bike,
    let's debate now what the Devil would have driven...

    Since when was it decided that the son of god would have ridden a bike.
    Personally I don't believe in any of the whole supreme being deal or the
    devil for that matter. But if I did I would say the devil would have
    driven something with an evil sounding name like "Viper"

    Actually God drove a Plymouth, because it says in the bible, "And in his
    Fury he drove them out."

  5. donquijote1954 said:


    Since it's pretty much settled that Jesus would have ridden a bike,
    let's debate now what the Devil would have driven...

    "In New York, there are towers of glass. It is the most beautiful and
    terrible city on earth. All good, all evil exist there-- and if you
    know where to look, you can find the Devil. He drives down 42nd
    street in a Cadillac with black windows. He lives down on Park Avenue
    surrounded by his servants."

    -- from _Bliss_ by Peter Carey

  6. In rec.bicycles.misc Just A User said:
    donquijote1954 said:

    Since it's pretty much settled that Jesus would have ridden a bike,
    let's debate now what the Devil would have driven...

    Hoo sez the Devil doesn't exist! I saw him just the other day, driving
    a six-wheeled Ford F-350, all alone, tailgating and talking on a cell
    phone.

    Bill

    __o | A tyrant must put on the appearance
    _`\(,_ | of uncommon devotion to religion.
    (_)/ (_) | - Aristotle

  7. Someone said:
    Quoted message said:

    Since it's pretty much settled that Jesus would have ridden a bike,
    let's debate now what the Devil would have driven...

    Quoted message said:

    Since when was it decided that the son of god would have ridden a
    bike. Personally I don't believe in any of the whole supreme being
    deal or the devil for that matter. But if I did I would say the
    devil would have driven something with an evil sounding name like
    "Viper"

    Oh, you mean like most athletic teams: Raiders, Cougars, Cheetahs,
    Outlaws, Wranglers, Pirates, Bears, Orcas... It's all too macho for me.

    Even my Jordan Jr. High, named after David Starr Jordan, an
    ichthyologist, were naturally the Dolphins, but were recently
    rechristened to the Cheetahs, the former name being to soft.

    Team sports are America's unifying religion. Just watch what men read
    first after buying a newspaper before boarding the train/bus/trolly.
    The fiercer the better, but we weren't always that way. Some older
    teams kept their civilized names like Orioles, man what a namby pamby
    name. How can you follow the exploits of such a team.

    Gino Bartali vs. Lance Armstrong, the all American boy! Oops that was
    Jack Armstrong.

    Jobst Brandt

  8. donquijote1954 said:

    Since it's pretty much settled that Jesus would have ridden a bike,
    let's debate now what the Devil would have driven...

    David V. said:
    donquijote1954 said:

    I thought he drove an SUV. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Quoted message said:

    "The Devil" does not exist. But you do remind me of Don Quixote.
    His SUV polluted too.

    DonQuixote rode a horse, Rocinante, and Sancho rode a donkey, like
    Jesus.

    The Devil does not exist but Christians are often found doing evil
    things. I have no doubt in my mind though that the Devil would have
    driven an SUV if he existed.

    WELCOME TO THE JUNGLEhttp://webspawner.com/users/donquijote

    Your just one of many who have been tricked by the devil.

  9. donquijote1954 said:

    Since it's pretty much settled that Jesus would have ridden a bike,
    let's debate now what the Devil would have driven...

    David V. said:
    donquijote1954 said:

    I thought he drove an SUV. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Quoted message said:

    "The Devil" does not exist. But you do remind me of Don Quixote.
    His SUV polluted too.

    DonQuixote rode a horse, Rocinante, and Sancho rode a donkey, like
    Jesus.

    The Devil does not exist but Christians are often found doing evil
    things. I have no doubt in my mind though that the Devil would have
    driven an SUV if he existed.

    WELCOME TO THE JUNGLEhttp://webspawner.com/users/donquijote

    The devil probably rides a bicycle from time to time. Perhaps this
    could happen by his assuming human form and engaging in whatever
    activity is conducive, at the moment, to lead a person into sin, which
    could include riding a bike. Or it could happen via demonic
    possession. Consider this summary from the Catholic Encyclopedia:

    "Assuming the reality of demoniac possession, for which the authority
    of Christ is pledged, it is to be observed that Jesus appealed to His
    power over demons as one of the recognised signs of Messiahship
    (Matthew 12:23, 28; Luke 11:20). He cast out demons, He declared, by
    the finger or spirit of God, not, as His adversaries alleged, by
    collusion with the prince of demons (Matthew 12:24, 27; Mark 3:22;
    Luke 11:15, 19); and that He exercised no mere delegated power, but a
    personal authority that was properly His own, is clear from the direct
    and imperative way in which He commands the demon to depart (Mark
    9:24; cf. 1:25 etc.): "He cast out the spirits with his word, and he
    healed all that were sick" (Matthew 8:16). Sometimes, as with the
    daughter of the Canaanean woman, the exorcism took place from a
    distance (Matthew 15:22 sqq.; Mark 7:25). Sometimes again the spirits
    expelled were allowed to express their recognition of Jesus as "the
    Holy One of God" (Mark 1:24) and to complain that He had come to
    torment them "before the time", i.e the time of their punishment
    (Matthew 8:29 sqq; Luke 8:28 sqq.). If demoniac possession was
    generally accompanied by some disease, yet the two were not confounded
    by Christ, or the Evangelists. In Luke 13:32, for example, the Master
    Himself expressly distinguishes between the expulsion of evil spirits
    and the curing of disease.

    Christ also empowered the Apostles and Disciples to cast out demons in
    His name while He Himself was still on earth (Matthew 10:1 and 8; Mark
    6:7; Luke 9:1; 10:17), and to believers generally He promised the same
    power (Mark 16:17). But the efficacy of this delegated power was
    conditional, as we see from the fact that the Apostles themselves were
    not always successful in their exorcisms: certain kinds of spirits, as
    Christ explained, could only be cast out by prayer and fasting
    (Matthew 17:15, 20; Mark 9:27-28; Luke 9:40). In other words the
    success of exorcism by Christians, in Christ's name, is subject to the
    same general conditions on which both the efficacy of prayer and the
    use of charismatic power depend. Yet conspicuous success was promised
    (Mark 16:17). St. Paul (Acts 16:18; 19:12), and, no doubt, the other
    Apostles and Disciples, made use of regularly, as occasion arose, of
    their exorcising power, and the Church has continued to do so
    uninterruptedly to the present day."

    Demonic possession isn't widely reported these days but that doesn't
    mean it doesn't happen. Too often people think that if they didn't
    hear about it in the mainstream media, it didn't happen. Anyway
    demoniacs can carry on all the normal activities of daily life, and
    that surely includes riding a bike.

  10. "Just A User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    donquijote1954 said:

    Since it's pretty much settled that Jesus would have ridden a bike,
    let's debate now what the Devil would have driven...

    Since when was it decided that the son of god would have ridden a bike.
    Personally I don't believe in any of the whole supreme being deal or the
    devil for that matter. But if I did I would say the devil would have
    driven something with an evil sounding name like "Viper"

    The devil was recently seen in NY at the UN, one could still smell the
    sulfur for quite some time after he left.

    JS

  11. "George Conklin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Just A User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    donquijote1954 said:

    Since it's pretty much settled that Jesus would have ridden a bike,
    let's debate now what the Devil would have driven...

    Since when was it decided that the son of god would have ridden a bike.
    Personally I don't believe in any of the whole supreme being deal or the
    devil for that matter. But if I did I would say the devil would have
    driven something with an evil sounding name like "Viper"

    Actually God drove a Plymouth, because it says in the bible, "And in his
    Fury he drove them out."

    I thought he drove a Honda, because "He gathered His disciples in an
    Accord".

  12. "George Conklin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Just A User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    donquijote1954 said:

    Since it's pretty much settled that Jesus would have ridden a bike,
    let's debate now what the Devil would have driven...

    Since when was it decided that the son of god would have ridden a bike.
    Personally I don't believe in any of the whole supreme being deal or the
    devil for that matter. But if I did I would say the devil would have
    driven something with an evil sounding name like "Viper"

    Actually God drove a Plymouth, because it says in the bible, "And in his
    Fury he drove them out."

    Is that with the police interceptor transmission or the regular production
    transmission?

  13. donquijote1954 said:

    Since it's pretty much settled that Jesus would have ridden a bike,
    let's debate now what the Devil would have driven...

    David V. said:
    donquijote1954 said:

    I thought he drove an SUV. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Quoted message said:

    "The Devil" does not exist. But you do remind me of Don Quixote.
    His SUV polluted too.

    DonQuixote rode a horse, Rocinante, and Sancho rode a donkey, like
    Jesus.

    The Devil does not exist but Christians are often found doing evil
    things. I have no doubt in my mind though that the Devil would have
    driven an SUV if he existed.

    WELCOME TO THE JUNGLEhttp://webspawner.com/users/donquijote

    Are you the Bill Maher of rec.bicycles???? There are higher callings.

  14. donquijote1954 said:

    Since it's pretty much settled that Jesus would have ridden a bike,
    let's debate now what the Devil would have driven...

    Cigarette boat on a lake of diarrhea. The doomed are immersed up to
    their chins!


  15. Quoted message said:

    Team sports are America's unifying religion.

    I think you could say this about any country. Americans don't riot when
    their teams lose, though, like the British.


  16. Quoted message said:

    "In New York, there are towers of glass. It is the most beautiful and
    terrible city on earth. All good, all evil exist there-- and if you
    know where to look, you can find the Devil. He drives down 42nd
    street in a Cadillac with black windows. He lives down on Park Avenue
    surrounded by his servants."

    -- from _Bliss_ by Peter Carey

    Well, that settles it, then. He's not in Dallas.

    Quoted message said:
  17. "Ron Wallenfang" wrote: (clip) demoniacs can carry on all the normal
    activities of daily life, and

    Quoted message said:

    that surely includes riding a bike.


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    You're serious, aren't you?

  18. donquijote1954 said:


    Since it's pretty much settled that Jesus would have ridden a bike,
    let's debate now what the Devil would have driven...

    Either a red horse, or a pale horse ...

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  19. landotter said:
    donquijote1954 said:

    Since it's pretty much settled that Jesus would have ridden a bike,
    let's debate now what the Devil would have driven...

    Cigarette boat on a lake of diarrhea. The doomed are immersed up to
    their chins!

    Chins? Ears!!

  20. (Sorry to recycle this article but I must clear any suspicions that I
    hate the Devil)

    David V. said:
    Quoted message said:

    The Devil does not exist but Christians are often found doing
    evil things. I have no doubt in my mind though that the Devil
    would have driven an SUV if he existed.

    Sounds like a personal problem to me.

    You still have not given me a rational reason for your strange
    hatred of SUVs.

    Well, my hatred of SUVs is the same Christians have for the Devil.
    Only more comprehensible since I go for the evil in it, not the person
    (even if he's the Devil himself).

    Now, in my dictionary killing people (even if casually) is evil, and
    so is polluting the environment...

    'If we want to repeat the mistakes of history or waste money on new
    frivolities that will soon become "necessities" and "rights," that's
    our business and we have one of the few economies capable of
    repeatediy recovering from such folly. There are more serious matters
    though, matters of right and wrong - ethics to be considered. I
    contend that casually participating in the SUV fad is wrong.

    The two reasons I hear for buying an SUV seem to be that: 1) being
    high, they provide a better view; and 2) they are safe.

    They are surely high. Until recently they provided a better view. That
    is, until the roads became littered with them. Once the road is truly
    full of SUVs, will any of the drivers have a better view? Of course
    not. We're right back where we started. There is an ethical principle
    that one should not make something harder for the next person who
    comes along. Simply elevating your seat level makes it harder for the
    next guy to see as well as you say you need to. This makes you part of
    the problem. By the time everyone can see as well as you, no one can
    see well any more because all the vehicles are tall. What's next?
    Still higher vehicles? Periscopes?

    The safety issue with SUVs is very troublesome. It's well known that
    SUVs roll over more easily, but owners and potential owners are thick
    to this, so there's no point in working it too hard. Let's also only
    touch on the fact that these big, heavy vehicles will be hitting each
    other more often as their numbers increase, resulting in high-energy
    collisions where everybody loses. The real problem, though, is much
    more serious than this.

    The whole idea of "safe" SUVs requires dedicating oneself to
    viciousness or deception. SUVs may be the first product ever
    engineered to kill more people which has been successfully marketed
    chiefly because e' its safety. In my use of the English Iangu age,
    safer things do not in sum cause less safety. You can't have the
    safety of an SUv without the danger it manifests to ethers. It's a
    package.'

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