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If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?

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  1. No, SUVs (or whatever vehicle you drive) don't run on water. They run
    on oil, which is the byproduct of animal species (which weren't saved
    by Noah's Ark) and plants that lived hundreds of millions of years
    ago, way before man, and, of course, way before the short-lived Earth
    that the Bible tells us about...

    "So given that oil is unique, precious and without serious
    substitutes, and given that we use it as wastefully as water - which
    will be the subject of another letter, oil must surely be a limitless
    and renewable resource, more or less falling from the sky, or at least
    welling up munificently underground, waiting to burst forth in black
    plumes and fill our lives and SUVs with boundless and endless vigour.

    Except of course, that like the tale of the bottomless wallet, this is
    a piece of fiction. Oil obviously doesn't fall from the sky, but nor
    does it endlessly well up from the ancient interior of the Earth. It
    was created, in distinct, separate and rare bursts, under highly
    unusual conditions in just a few places, over the last two hundred
    million years. Moreover, most of it has long since leaked away or
    become degraded and contaminated and very hard to recover. Meanwhile
    the easy stuff which is left from these rare geological moments is
    being used up at a simply colossal rate by humans everywhere, but most
    of all by those of us in the world of hyper-consumption."

    http://www.letterfromearth.org/index.php?letter=letterfromearth.01.v1-3

    So, don't be a hypocrite and get your ass off that SUV because it runs
    on Evolution itself. You belong on that donkey that Jesus rode. Or at
    least GO AND RIDE A BIKE.

    WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE
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    COMING OUT OF THE JUNGLE
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  2. donquijote1954 said:

    No, SUVs (or whatever vehicle you drive) don't run on water. They run
    on oil,

    Some of them run on corn (ethanol) now.

  3. "Just A User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    donquijote1954 said:

    No, SUVs (or whatever vehicle you drive) don't run on water. They run
    on oil,

    Some of them run on corn (ethanol) now.

    Kind of a shame that corn, wheat and other bio-ethanol sources are low, with
    rapidly escalating prices isn't it...food prices skyrocketting so that folk
    can still drive their cars....

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6481029.stm
    http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=4328.2580.0.0
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/06/13/cncorn113.xml

    and so on....

    tik

  4. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:


    "Just A User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    donquijote1954 said:

    No, SUVs (or whatever vehicle you drive) don't run on water. They run
    on oil,

    Some of them run on corn (ethanol) now.

    Kind of a shame that corn, wheat and other bio-ethanol sources are low, with
    rapidly escalating prices isn't it...food prices skyrocketting so that folk
    can still drive their cars....

    Using corn as the source for ethanol is just an interim step to much
    more economical sources, mainly high-cellulose items such as switch
    grass, sawdust, etc.

    --
    Remove the ns_ from if replying by e-mail (but keep posts in the
    newsgroups if possible).

  5. "Just A User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    donquijote1954 said:

    No, SUVs (or whatever vehicle you drive) don't run on water. They run
    on oil,

    Some of them run on corn (ethanol) now.

    Or used veg oil.

  6. Coyoteboy said:

    "Just A User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    donquijote1954 said:

    No, SUVs (or whatever vehicle you drive) don't run on water. They run
    on oil,


    Some of them run on corn (ethanol) now.

    Or used veg oil.


    I almost wonder if all the restaurants in the world that use veg. oil
    were forced to turn in old oil how much /normal/ diesel could be saved.

  7. The immortal Khan said:

    "Just A User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    donquijote1954 said:

    No, SUVs (or whatever vehicle you drive) don't run on water. They run
    on oil,

    Some of them run on corn (ethanol) now.

    Kind of a shame that corn, wheat and other bio-ethanol sources are low, with
    rapidly escalating prices isn't it...food prices skyrocketting so that folk
    can still drive their cars....

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6481029.stm
    http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=4328.2580.0.0
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/06/13/cncorn113.xml

    and so on....

    I don't think it's possible to please some Green types with
    any sort of technology.

    Once H2 fueled vehicles come on line in perhaps 10-15 years,
    their by-product of combustion will be water vapor.

    Water vapor is much more effective "greenhouse gas" than
    CO2.

    I think the planet is doomed unless there is mass human
    destruction!

    Perhaps SUVs are actually doing Earth a favor?

    They murder large numbers of other vehicle operators on
    the road out of sheer joy of murder. We need even bigger
    SUVs so they can take out buses and trains and even taxiing
    airliners to eliminate large swaths of humanity in a single
    "accident". By converting all our food grains to fuel to
    run them, SUVs will destroy more of humanity from starvation
    and disease!

    Humans, BAD!
    SUV, friend of Mother Earth!

    SMH

  8. donquijote1954 wibbled

    Quoted message said:

    So, don't be a hypocrite and get your ass off that SUV because it runs
    on Evolution itself.

    Mine runs quite happily on Corn / Rapeseed / vegetable oil / diesel
    mix, thank you.

    You belong on that donkey that Jesus rode. Or at

    Quoted message said:

    least GO AND RIDE A BIKE.

    I do. I also ride horses (and donkeys occasionally) and walk.

    --
    Paul - [censored]

    '96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi 'Big and Butch'
    '98 Suzuki DR 200 Djebel 'Small but perfectly formed'
    Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp "When I feel fit enough'

  9. "Stephen Harding" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:u0ugj.2734$EN6.2224@trndny07...

    Quoted message said:
    The immortal Khan said:

    "Just A User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    donquijote1954 wrote:

    Quoted message said:


    I don't think it's possible to please some Green types with
    any sort of technology.

    Once H2 fueled vehicles come on line in perhaps 10-15 years,
    their by-product of combustion will be water vapor.

    Water vapor is much more effective "greenhouse gas" than
    CO2.

    But the atmosphere can only hold so much water vapor before it falls out of
    the sky as potential fuel; rain. Water vapor will probably not effect
    greenhouse problems very much.

    So donquijote1954 is just showing off how little he knows about what is
    happening in the world.

  10. Just A User said:
    donquijote1954 said:

    No, SUVs (or whatever vehicle you drive) don't run on water. They run
    on oil,

    Some of them run on corn (ethanol) now.

    Well then it's time we pull out of Iraq.

    Still it's better to run on bananas than to run on corn. Bananas are
    more efficient, and, of course, are more fun. 😉

  11. Stephen Harding said:
    The immortal Khan said:

    "Just A User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    donquijote1954 wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >No, SUVs (or whatever vehicle you drive) don't run on water. They run
    >on oil,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Some of them run on corn (ethanol) now.

    Quoted message said:

    Kind of a shame that corn, wheat and other bio-ethanol sources are low, with
    rapidly escalating prices isn't it...food prices skyrocketting so that folk
    can still drive their cars....

    Quoted message said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6481029.stm
    http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=4328.2580.0.0
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/06/13/cnc...

    Quoted message said:

    and so on....

    I don't think it's possible to please some Green types with
    any sort of technology.

    Once H2 fueled vehicles come on line in perhaps 10-15 years,
    their by-product of combustion will be water vapor.

    Water vapor is much more effective "greenhouse gas" than
    CO2.

    I think the planet is doomed unless there is mass human
    destruction!

    Perhaps SUVs are actually doing Earth a favor?

    They murder large numbers of other vehicle operators on
    the road out of sheer joy of murder. We need even bigger
    SUVs so they can take out buses and trains and even taxiing
    airliners to eliminate large swaths of humanity in a single
    "accident". By converting all our food grains to fuel to
    run them, SUVs will destroy more of humanity from starvation
    and disease!

    Humans, BAD!
    SUV, friend of Mother Earth!

    SMH

    That's honest opinion being American consumer automobile addicted
    culture. Sure Americans are fighting for green stuff but that's just
    window dressing. In deepest psyche of America, they are all desire
    to drive SUV and Hummer. That is the American psyche. Driving
    big car, driving like NASCAR are their passion and psyche. This is
    why bicycle will never be the public transporatation in America.
    Bike is too slow and too silence and unable to kill human being.

  12. David Kerber ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    "Just A User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    donquijote1954 wrote:
    > No, SUVs (or whatever vehicle you drive) don't run on water. They run
    > on oil,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Some of them run on corn (ethanol) now.

    Quoted message said:

    Kind of a shame that corn, wheat and other bio-ethanol sources are low, with
    rapidly escalating prices isn't it...food prices skyrocketting so that folk
    can still drive their cars....

    Using corn as the source for ethanol is just an interim step to much
    more economical sources, mainly high-cellulose items such as switch
    grass, sawdust, etc.

    The more economical source is when they start running on bull [censored].
    Imagine all the [censored] cows leave behind, not to say what people say in
    politics and organized religion.

  13. Red Cloud said:

    That's honest opinion being American consumer automobile addicted
    culture. Sure Americans are fighting for green stuff but that's just
    window dressing. In deepest psyche of America, they are all desire
    to drive SUV and Hummer. That is the American psyche. Driving
    big car, driving like NASCAR are their passion and psyche. This is
    why bicycle will never be the public transporatation in America.
    Bike is too slow and too silence and unable to kill human being.

    Only missing thing photo Red Cloud tear in eye. HHT! SB

  14. Stephen Harding said:
    The immortal Khan said:

    "Just A User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    donquijote1954 wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >No, SUVs (or whatever vehicle you drive) don't run on water. They run
    >on oil,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Some of them run on corn (ethanol) now.

    Quoted message said:

    Kind of a shame that corn, wheat and other bio-ethanol sources are low, with
    rapidly escalating prices isn't it...food prices skyrocketting so that folk
    can still drive their cars....

    Quoted message said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6481029.stm
    http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=4328.2580.0.0
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/06/13/cnc....

    Quoted message said:

    and so on....

    I don't think it's possible to please some Green types with
    any sort of technology.

    Once H2 fueled vehicles come on line in perhaps 10-15 years,
    their by-product of combustion will be water vapor.

    Water vapor is much more effective "greenhouse gas" than
    CO2.

    I think the planet is doomed unless there is mass human
    destruction!

    Perhaps SUVs are actually doing Earth a favor?

    They murder large numbers of other vehicle operators on
    the road out of sheer joy of murder.  We need even bigger
    SUVs so they can take out buses and trains and even taxiing
    airliners to eliminate large swaths of humanity in a single
    "accident".  By converting all our food grains to fuel to
    run them, SUVs will destroy more of humanity from starvation
    and disease!

    Humans, BAD!
    SUV, friend of Mother Earth!

    SUVs are the vehicles of salvation...

    http://members.aol.com/ResurgenceCity/Blogpix/JHeaven.jpg

    They will shuttle the Religious Right out of this planet when they
    finally succeed in destroying it.

  15. Paul - censored said:

    donquijote1954 wibbled

    Quoted message said:

    So, don't be a hypocrite and get your ass off that SUV because it runs
    on Evolution itself.

    Mine runs quite happily on Corn / Rapeseed / vegetable oil / diesel
    mix, thank you.

    I bet they are even organic. Do you and your SUV share the same power
    mix for breakfast?

    Quoted message said:


    You belong on that donkey that Jesus rode. Or at

    Quoted message said:

    least GO AND RIDE A BIKE.

    I do. I also ride horses (and donkeys occasionally) and walk.

    You can feed them the same power mix, I guess.

  16. "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Red Cloud said:

    That's honest opinion being American consumer automobile addicted
    culture. Sure Americans are fighting for green stuff but that's just
    window dressing. In deepest psyche of America, they are all desire
    to drive SUV and Hummer. That is the American psyche. Driving
    big car, driving like NASCAR are their passion and psyche. This is
    why bicycle will never be the public transporatation in America.
    Bike is too slow and too silence and unable to kill human being.

    Only missing thing photo Red Cloud tear in eye. HHT! SB


    If you are concerned with your health, you won't be riding a bicycle. Too
    many accidents per mile.

  17. Red Cloud said:
    Quoted message said:

    Humans, BAD!
    SUV, friend of Mother Earth!

    Quoted message said:

    SMH

    That's honest opinion being American consumer automobile addicted
    culture.  Sure Americans are fighting for green stuff but that's just
    window dressing. In deepest psyche of America, they are all desire
    to drive SUV and Hummer. That is the American psyche. Driving
    big car, driving like NASCAR are their passion and psyche. This is
    why bicycle will never be the public transporatation in America.
    Bike is too slow and too silence and unable to kill human being.-

    I don't then why God chose this nation out of all others. Holland has
    a much cleaner record, for example. This Jesus must have realized
    that, "When in Rome, drive as the Romans"...

  18. Lions for lambs. The lion makes the sheep vote in a certain way, and
    the sheep blindly follow.

    Well, if Democrats don't cut it for you, at least vote for a real
    tough Republican, one for tougher environmental controls like
    Schwarzenegger...

    Schwarzenegger defies Bush on warming
    SAN FRANCISCO - Declaring climate change to be an indisputable threat,
    Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger unveiled a plan Wednesday to combat global
    warming by setting goals for reducing California's emissions of
    greenhouse gases.

    "Today, California will be a leader in the fight against global
    warming," Schwarzenegger told a United Nations conference on the
    environment being held in San Francisco.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8072382/

  19. Jack May said:

    "Stephen Harding" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    Once H2 fueled vehicles come on line in perhaps 10-15 years,
    their by-product of combustion will be water vapor.

    Water vapor is much more effective "greenhouse gas" than
    CO2.

    But the atmosphere can only hold so much water vapor before it falls out of
    the sky as potential fuel; rain. Water vapor will probably not effect
    greenhouse problems very much.

    I think I read that during the Carboniferous period that
    the earth was as hot as it has ever been.

    ISTR that one of the reasons was due to large amounts of
    water vapor in the air (volcanoes? geothermal activity?).
    Can't remember what the source of it was. Maybe just
    evaporation from oceans.

    At any rate, the air can be very heavily saturated with
    water without it raining, or without rain clearing up
    the humidity. Check out many of the tropical locations
    of the world where heavy rains don't lessen humidity.

    Perhaps H2 powered SUVs will bring on a glacial cooling
    period when all that SUV derived water vapor freezes
    into snow and ice in Minnesota and Canada, feeding
    glaciers and burying our cities!!!

    Wow, those SUVs are really something, huh?

    SMH

  20. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    No, SUVs (or whatever vehicle you drive) don't run on water. They run
    on oil,

    Some of them run on corn (ethanol) now.

    No, at most there is only 15% ethanol mixed in with the gasoline.

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