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  1. This has probably been discussed before but I would be grateful your opinion ... it might save a big
    fall out . Me mate tried cross country racing last year with a specialized full susser and did quite
    well but felt he lost a lot on the hills and as the downhill's where not that bad a light hard tail
    was the order of the day and the fact the 99 % of the riders where using them ...he's now the proud
    owner of a specialized m5 with lots of exspensive and light goodies attached to it . Our other mate
    is adamant that a full susser with lockout would be a far better option as you have the best of both
    worlds and the fact that the world championship was won on a full susser says he is right .. No one
    will shift their opinion .

    What do you think ?...

    Jim

  2. Jimmy censored said:

    This has probably been discussed before but I would be grateful your opinion ... it might save a
    big fall out . Me mate tried cross country racing last year with a specialized full susser and did
    quite well but felt he lost a lot on the hills and as the downhill's where not that bad a light
    hard tail was the order of the day and the fact the 99 % of the riders where using them ...he's
    now the proud owner of a specialized m5 with lots of exspensive and light goodies attached to it .
    Our other mate is adamant that a full susser with lockout would be a far better option as you have
    the best of both worlds and the fact that the world championship was won on a full susser says he
    is right .. No one will shift their opinion .

    I ride a rigid MTB so I'm hardly qualified to comment. However, the full susser with lockout still
    has the weight penalty on the hills.

    The world champion rides what he's paid to ride - take no notice of that!

  3. Jimmy censored said:


    What do you think ?...

    You should change the topic to "steel or aluminium" or "helmet or not helmet" and when they've
    solved those topics, come back to suspension or not suspension.

    Tony

  4. Jimmy censored said:

    This has probably been discussed before but I would be grateful your opinion ... it might save a
    big fall out . Me mate tried cross country racing last year with a specialized full susser and did
    quite well but felt he lost a lot on the hills and as the downhill's where not that bad a light
    hard tail was the order of the day and the fact the 99 % of the riders where using them .

    MBR timed the same people on both full sus and front sus only bikes last year at the Red Bull event,
    and came to the conclusion that Full Sus is up to 10% faster.IIRC, there was only 1 person who did 1
    lap faster on the front sus only bike.Typical comments were that the full susser felt slower, but
    when they looked at the times, it was actually faster. Full sus bikes used to be heavy, but it is
    easy now to get one around 25lb total weight - that is pretty much what front sus only was a few
    years ago.The extra 3-5lb is only going to affect the lightest/fastest racers - and even they are
    going/have gone full sus now, as it is so much easier and forgiving to ride them,and IME, you feel
    less 'beat-up' after racing on a full sus bike. Alan.
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    North Midlands.

  5. But they where not arguing over these topics ...
    Everyone knows a helmet makes you go faster ... ...
    "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jimmy censored said:


    What do you think ?...

    You should change the topic to "steel or aluminium" or "helmet or not


    helmet"

    Quoted message said:

    and when they've solved those topics, come back to suspension or not suspension.

    Tony

  6. "Jimmy [censored]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This has probably been discussed before but I would be grateful your opinion ... it might save a
    big fall out . Me mate tried cross country racing last year with a specialized full


    susser

    Quoted message said:

    and did quite well but felt he lost a lot on the hills and as the


    downhill's

    Quoted message said:

    where not that bad a light hard tail was the order of the day and the


    fact

    Quoted message said:

    the 99 % of the riders where using them ...he's now the proud owner of a specialized m5 with lots
    of exspensive and light goodies attached to it . Our other mate is adamant that a full susser with
    lockout would be a far better option as you have the best of both worlds and the fact that the
    world championship was won on a full susser says he is right .. No one


    will

    Quoted message said:

    shift their opinion .

    What do you think ?...

    Jim

    If you want a race bike then get a light hardtail. If you want an all day "peaks" bike get a full
    suss. If you ride in Norfolk then get a rigid bike. Depends on what type of riding you do and where
    you do it, innit.

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