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  1. I have a 20'' DX right now and I'm just wondering, would a better uni
    make THAT much of a difference. If the DX is holding up fine and
    nothing is bent or broken then how would a better uni help? Or would
    it?

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  2. Magixause said:

    I have a 20'' DX right now and I'm just wondering, would a better uni
    make THAT much of a difference. If the DX is holding up fine and
    nothing is bent or broken then how would a better uni help? Or would
    it?

    I wouldn't worry about upgrading your uni until something breaks, it
    really doesn't make that much of a difference except that a lighter uni
    would make hopping a little easier.

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  3. Magixause said:

    I have a 20'' DX right now and I'm just wondering, would a better uni
    make THAT much of a difference. If the DX is holding up fine and
    nothing is bent or broken then how would a better uni help? Or would
    it?

    Hawo Magixause, in regards to your question. I too had a DX and was
    very happy with it because of the frame being near indestructible at
    best. So unless something does break beyond repair on it. I say stay
    with it.

    *BTW *what other unicycles did you have in mind if you don't mind me
    asking*???*

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  4. stick with the dx until your real good with it and then buy a high end
    uni. it will give you a big jump start.

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  5. manon1wheel said:

    stick with the dx until your real good with it and then buy a high end
    uni. it will give you a big jump start.

    I totally agree with Riley here.

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  6. Sounds good. I mean I'm pretty good, but it's working ok for me so I'll
    just wait.

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  7. manon1wheel said:

    stick with the dx until your real good with it and then buy a high end
    uni. it will give you a big jump start.

    And how good would that be?

    Some examples? Trials and/or street skill levels?

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    yunisyko said:

    it's all about balls. i lose them often and then get em back.


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  8. skilewis74 said:

    And how good would that be?

    Some examples? Trials and/or street skill levels?

    I don't think theres some specific stage where everyone should upgrade.
    You just kind of know it when the time comes.

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  9. Brian O. said:

    I don't think theres some specific stage where everyone should upgrade.
    You just kind of know it when the time comes.

    Like when the tire is anoyingly folding over the rim, for eg.?

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    yunisyko said:

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  10. skilewis74 said:

    Like when the tire is anoyingly folding over the rim, for eg.?

    that just means it's time for a new tire/tube or time to pump up the
    tire...

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  11. Ducttape said:

    that just means it's time for a new tire/tube or time to pump up the
    tire...

    Or a wider rim.

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  12. Brian O. said:

    Or a wider rim.

    that too

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  13. skilewis74 said:

    Like when the tire is anoyingly folding over the rim, for eg.?

    I dont think that works well, because at first, I wasnt folding over at
    all, then for a little bit, I was folding over, and from there it was
    every now and then, and then for the last few months of riding my DX, I
    didnt fold once.

    I broke my frame pretty early on my DX, but that problem was fixed with
    the frames they have on them now. I did lots to that uni. 8-sets, lots
    of wrecks from muni which would cause the uni to flip around a lot when
    hitting all the rocks, and some 6-8 foot drops, and tons of 3-5 foot
    drops. After I think a year of doing that, the right hub finally
    started to come loose and flop around and I would have to tighten it up
    a lot to keep it on without it moving.

    (It will probably be fixed pretty easily with locktite or something
    lol. Hmm, If that works im going to sell it for probably $70)

    I went and got the 2007 KH 20" and honestly, I didnt feel the weight
    when I was riding it. When I was holding it or jumping I kinda felt it,
    but its not a huge difference. Jumping didnt get any higher, and most
    street stuff didnt get any easier either for me. It did feel better to
    ride and jump with though.

    Id say my upgrade from DX to Kh was pretty worth it. The KH is
    stronger, and im hoping it will last longer than a year with the same
    abuse, or heavier abuse than what I was doing on my DX. Its also ISIS
    and 36 holed, so more compatible, but that doesn't bother me, cause im
    not looking to ever interchange parts.

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  14. I think the weight difference will be hard to tell. The different
    q-factor, pedals, seat, different length cranks, etc. will make a much
    bigger difference of how it feels and it will take time to get used to.
    It is always nice to have a realy light uni though.

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  15. Frames make pretty much zero difference in terms of 'feel'. But lighter
    weights do help.

    The biggest factors are things like crank length, and especially saddle
    height and thickness.

    Super thick saddles make seat-out hopping feel like [censored], whilst
    ridiculously thin saddles make it feel way nicer.

    Seat height is probably actually the most important factor come to
    think of it. The whole feel and style of the uni can change drastically
    depending on how high you run the saddle. Ultra high for seat-out
    hopping equals horribly retarded feeling for anything seat-in.
    Super-low saddle makes seat-in trials so [censored] easy and can feel a bit
    funny for seat-out hopping at first, but only at first.

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  16. Ducttape said:

    a lighter uni would make hopping a little easier

    Really? Why? How? Can you give us examples?

    Try this. Put 2 lbs of stones in your pocket and jump up and down.

    Now empty your pocket. Repeat the exercise. (This should simulate the
    difference between a 15 lb and a 13 lb unicycle.)

    Let me know how that goes for you.

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  17. maestro8 said:

    Really? Why? How? Can you give us examples?

    Try this. Put 2 lbs of stones in your pocket and jump up and down.

    Now empty your pocket. Repeat the exercise. (This should simulate the
    difference between a 15 lb and a 13 lb unicycle.)

    Let me know how that goes for you.

    it's a mental effect... it feels like that for a while.... I know when
    I hop around on a KH after hopping around on my DX it feels a lot
    easier, it doesn't improve my height or anything just feels easier.

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  18. Ducttape said:

    it's a mental effect... it feels like that for a while.... I know when I
    hop around on a KH after hopping around on my DX it feels a lot easier,
    it doesn't improve my height or anything just feels easier.

    i believe that all weight does is improve your confidence...

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  19. Spoonthumb said:

    i believe that all weight does is improve your confidence...

    With little weight differences like a DX to a KH, then of course its
    more mental than physical.

    Now if we went from a 25 pound uni to a 15 pound uni. They would be a
    different story. =p

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  20. pump ur tyre up and raise ur seat.. that makes a difference for sure

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