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Mountain Bikers: "me-first spoiled brats"

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  1. "[Mountain bikers] personifies what John Muir referred to as Lord Man:
    'there isn't much use in protecting open space unless you let people
    use it.' That's what is wrong with this whole selfish, myopic bunch
    of me-first spoiled brats." (a friend)
    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  2. Me-first-spoiled-brat?

    Isn't that a bit of the pot calling the kettle black, coming from you?

    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "[Mountain bikers] personifies what John Muir referred to as Lord Man:
    'there isn't much use in protecting open space unless you let people
    use it.' That's what is wrong with this whole selfish, myopic bunch
    of me-first spoiled brats." (a friend)
    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
    fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  3. Mike Vandeman said:

    "[Mountain bikers] personifies what John Muir referred to as Lord Man:
    'there isn't much use in protecting open space unless you let people
    use it.' That's what is wrong with this whole selfish, myopic bunch
    of me-first spoiled brats." (a friend)

    Mike,

    Have you read Daniel G. Payne's "Voices in the Wilderness: American
    Nature Writing and Environmental Politics"? In it he discusses how
    nature writers like "John Muir and Rachel Carson were able effectively
    and simultaneously to combine all three of the key rhetorical tasks -
    to alert, to inform, and to persuade the reader - each of the writers
    considered here made an invaluable contribution to the case for
    environmental reform."

    I highly recommend the book since I believe you overlook the
    importance of PERSUADING the reader to see things your way.

  4. Olebiker said:

    I highly recommend the book since I believe you overlook the
    importance of PERSUADING the reader to see things your way.

    Man, don't tell him the trick! He might get effective!

    -Beej

  5. "Beej Jorgensen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Olebiker said:

    I highly recommend the book since I believe you overlook the
    importance of PERSUADING the reader to see things your way.

    Man, don't tell him the trick! He might get effective!

    -Beej

    Not bloody likely.

  6. Jeff Strickland said:

    Me-first-spoiled-brat?

    Isn't that a bit of the pot calling the kettle black, coming from you?

    No, all I care about is protecting wildlife and people. That is
    UN-selfish. Not that you would understand. After all, it uses words of
    more than one syl-la-ble.

    Quoted message said:

    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "[Mountain bikers] personifies what John Muir referred to as Lord Man:
    'there isn't much use in protecting open space unless you let people
    use it.' That's what is wrong with this whole selfish, myopic bunch
    of me-first spoiled brats." (a friend)
    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
    fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande


    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  7. On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 10:43:22 -0800 (PST), Olebiker <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Mike Vandeman said:

    "[Mountain bikers] personifies what John Muir referred to as Lord Man:
    'there isn't much use in protecting open space unless you let people
    use it.' That's what is wrong with this whole selfish, myopic bunch
    of me-first spoiled brats." (a friend)

    Mike,

    Have you read Daniel G. Payne's "Voices in the Wilderness: American
    Nature Writing and Environmental Politics"? In it he discusses how
    nature writers like "John Muir and Rachel Carson were able effectively
    and simultaneously to combine all three of the key rhetorical tasks -
    to alert, to inform, and to persuade the reader - each of the writers
    considered here made an invaluable contribution to the case for
    environmental reform."

    I highly recommend the book since I believe you overlook the
    importance of PERSUADING the reader to see things your way.

    Good point. I'm adding it to my reading list. You must be very
    persuasive. 🙂 Too bad you don't use that skill on something worth
    while....
    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  8. Mike Vandeman said:

    On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 10:43:22 -0800 (PST), Olebiker <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Mike Vandeman said:

    "[Mountain bikers] personifies what John Muir referred to as Lord Man:
    'there isn't much use in protecting open space unless you let people
    use it.' That's what is wrong with this whole selfish, myopic bunch
    of me-first spoiled brats." (a friend)

    Quoted message said:

    Mike,

    Quoted message said:

    Have you read Daniel G. Payne's "Voices in the Wilderness: American
    Nature Writing and Environmental Politics"? In it he discusses how
    nature writers like "John Muir and Rachel Carson were able effectively
    and simultaneously to combine all three of the key rhetorical tasks -
    to alert, to inform, and to persuade the reader - each of the writers
    considered here made an invaluable contribution to the case for
    environmental reform."

    Quoted message said:

    I highly recommend the book since I believe you overlook the
    importance of PERSUADING the reader to see things your way.

    Good point. I'm adding it to my reading list. You must be very
    persuasive. 🙂 Too bad you don't use that skill on something worth
    while....
    - Show quoted text -

    You are welcomed.

  9. "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jeff Strickland said:

    Me-first-spoiled-brat?

    Isn't that a bit of the pot calling the kettle black, coming from you?

    No, all I care about is protecting wildlife and people. That is
    UN-selfish. Not that you would understand. After all, it uses words of
    more than one syl-la-ble.

    You only care about you. That's the definition of selfish.

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