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  1. My buddy and me have identical Garmins. Recently we compared stats at end of
    a walk. Mine showed approx 9 miles his approx 8 miles.
    Any ideas why this should be so.
    Settings were all identical except he had his set-up for world geodetic
    system (WGS84), mine for OSGB grid references.
    Thanks. John

  2. John Brown said:

    My buddy and me have identical Garmins. Recently we compared stats at
    end of a walk. Mine showed approx 9 miles his approx 8 miles.
    Any ideas why this should be so.

    If you lose lock your GPS stops recording, so if you each show a different
    distance at the end of the walk, it's likely that one of you lost lock more
    often than the other. That's the main reason for a distance discrepancy.

    Two obvious reasons for this spring to mind.

    1. Different battery settings. I once did a walk with my brother using
    almost identical Garmins, and when we entered a forest his went haywire and
    couldn't keep a lock while mine kept a reasonable lock. It turned out that
    he had his set to "battery save" mode, while mine wasn't. Battery save mode
    is more likely to lose lock in difficult conditions like forests.

    2. Different GPS carrying positions. Where you carry your GPS can make a big
    difference to your reception during a walk. The biggest obstacle that can
    block GPS signals is your own body. If you carry your GPS low, for example
    on a belt, the signal can be blocked more often than if you carry it high,
    such as high on a rucksack strap or on your shoulder, or even in the top
    pocket of your ruscksack. I've been on walks with people who've carried
    their GPS low on their belts and recorded less distance than mine high up on
    my rucksack strap (a hat with an aerial would be best!).

    If you study the track afterwards (on a computer overlaid onto a map), it's
    usually obvious if you lost lock during the walk, since there are sporadic
    jumps in position. A closer examination of the track details can reveal
    errors if there are sudden changes of speed that make no sense.

    Quoted message said:

    Settings were all identical except he had his set-up for world
    geodetic system (WGS84), mine for OSGB grid references.

    That wouldn't make any difference. All GPS units use WGS84 internally and
    only use other settings for display of the data.

    Other factors could be involved, such as different settings for track
    recording, but they probably wouldn't make that much difference. I'd check
    the two obvious ones first.

    1. Don't use battery save mode (unless you really have to).
    2. Do try to carry your GPS so that it sees as much of the sky as possible,
    most of the time.

    Note that different models use different antennae. eTrex models like to face
    upwards (i.e. be carried horizontally), while older models like the GPS12
    and newer models like the 60 and 76 series like to be carried vertically
    (facing forward).

    Paul
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  3. Thanks Paul I'll take a look at what you have suggested.
    J
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    Quoted message said:
    John Brown said:

    My buddy and me have identical Garmins. Recently we compared stats at
    end of a walk. Mine showed approx 9 miles his approx 8 miles.
    Any ideas why this should be so.

    If you lose lock your GPS stops recording, so if you each show a different
    distance at the end of the walk, it's likely that one of you lost lock
    more often than the other. That's the main reason for a distance
    discrepancy.

    Two obvious reasons for this spring to mind.

    1. Different battery settings. I once did a walk with my brother using
    almost identical Garmins, and when we entered a forest his went haywire
    and couldn't keep a lock while mine kept a reasonable lock. It turned out
    that he had his set to "battery save" mode, while mine wasn't. Battery
    save mode is more likely to lose lock in difficult conditions like
    forests.

    2. Different GPS carrying positions. Where you carry your GPS can make a
    big difference to your reception during a walk. The biggest obstacle that
    can block GPS signals is your own body. If you carry your GPS low, for
    example on a belt, the signal can be blocked more often than if you carry
    it high, such as high on a rucksack strap or on your shoulder, or even in
    the top pocket of your ruscksack. I've been on walks with people who've
    carried their GPS low on their belts and recorded less distance than mine
    high up on my rucksack strap (a hat with an aerial would be best!).

    If you study the track afterwards (on a computer overlaid onto a map),
    it's usually obvious if you lost lock during the walk, since there are
    sporadic jumps in position. A closer examination of the track details can
    reveal errors if there are sudden changes of speed that make no sense.

    Quoted message said:

    Settings were all identical except he had his set-up for world
    geodetic system (WGS84), mine for OSGB grid references.

    That wouldn't make any difference. All GPS units use WGS84 internally and
    only use other settings for display of the data.

    Other factors could be involved, such as different settings for track
    recording, but they probably wouldn't make that much difference. I'd check
    the two obvious ones first.

    1. Don't use battery save mode (unless you really have to).
    2. Do try to carry your GPS so that it sees as much of the sky as
    possible, most of the time.

    Note that different models use different antennae. eTrex models like to
    face upwards (i.e. be carried horizontally), while older models like the
    GPS12 and newer models like the 60 and 76 series like to be carried
    vertically (facing forward).

    Paul
    --
    http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk/
    http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk/weblog/
    http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk/weblog/pic-of-the-day/comet-holmes/

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