Cycling Equipment · Public discussion

Suzue road tandem rear drum cable pull ratio

Started by meb · · Last activity · 6 posts · 676 views

This thread is locked and is currently read-only.

Thread navigation

Jump through the discussion

Go to the original post, the replies on this page, or the latest preserved contribution.

Thread details

What we know about this thread

Original section
Cycling Equipment
Published
27 November 2007
Last activity
2 December 2007
Original author
meb
Posts
6
Discussion status
Public discussion
Total views
676
Views / 30 days
0
Topics

The navigation and discussion metadata provide context. Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Showing posts 1–6 of 6
Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Text size
  1. I am equipping a road bike commuter with a more robust tandem wheelset.
    I have a rear drum and wish to hook up the rear drum and rim brakes seperately, with a third lever on the clip-on aerobars.

    If the pull ratio for road bike calipers is the same as the drum (which I presume is likley given the road wheelset), I would prefer to connect the drum to the right drop lever and the rear caliper to the aerobar lever, since on high speed descents or weather conditions effecting brakes likely will see me often with hands on the drops for better control. If the pull ratio is different then, I'll connect the drums to the keeping the old rear lever with the rear caliper.

    Anyone know able to confrim the pull ratio?

    The brand is Suzue.

  2. meb said:

    I am equipping a road bike commuter with a more robust tandem wheelset.
    I have a rear drum and wish to hook up the rear drum and rim brakes
    seperately, with a third lever on the clip-on aerobars.
    If the pull ratio for road bike calipers is the same as the drum (which
    I presume is likley given the road wheelset), I would prefer to connect
    the drum to the right drop lever and the rear caliper to the aerobar
    lever, since on high speed descents or weather conditions effecting
    brakes likely will see me often with hands on the drops for better
    control. If the pull ratio is different then, I'll connect the drums to
    the keeping the old rear lever with the rear caliper.
    Anyone know able to confrim the pull ratio?
    The brand is Suzue.

    Yes standard levers (not Linear "V" type). MX levers can go well with
    aerobars.
    Suzue tandem hub with Arai drum brake I assume?
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  3. "meb" queried:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am equipping a road bike commuter with a more robust tandem wheelset.
    I have a rear drum and wish to hook up the rear drum and rim brakes
    seperately, with a third lever on the clip-on aerobars.
    If the pull ratio for road bike calipers is the same as the drum (which
    I presume is likley given the road wheelset), I would prefer to connect
    the drum to the right drop lever and the rear caliper to the aerobar
    lever, since on high speed descents or weather conditions effecting
    brakes likely will see me often with hands on the drops for better
    control. If the pull ratio is different then, I'll connect the drums to
    the keeping the old rear lever with the rear caliper.
    Anyone know able to confrim the pull ratio?
    The brand is Suzue.

    Andrew Muzi replied:

    Quoted message said:

    Yes standard levers (not Linear "V" type). MX levers can go well with
    aerobars.
    Suzue tandem hub with Arai drum brake I assume?

    No doubt. My experience with the Arai drums used with _brake_ levers
    is that they often seemed to want a skosh more pull than the levers
    provided. (That has been exclusively on tandems, so the long cable
    may also factor into this. Might well be more satisfactory on a
    single.)

    I would incline more using the main brake levers for the calipers, and
    set the Arai up as a drag brake, using a shift lever, in the time
    honored tandem fashion.

    Sheldon "Two Front Brakes For Me" Brown
    +---------------------------------------------------+
    | Time shouldn't just pass; things should happen. |
    | --Harry Turtledove |
    +---------------------------------------------------+
    Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts
    Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041
    http://harriscyclery.com
    Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide
    http://captainbike.com
    Useful articles about bicycles and cycling
    http://sheldonbrown.com

  4. Sheldon Brown said:

    "meb" queried:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am equipping a road bike commuter with a more robust tandem wheelset.
    I have a rear drum and wish to hook up the rear drum and rim brakes
    seperately, with a third lever on the clip-on aerobars.
    If the pull ratio for road bike calipers is the same as the drum (which
    I presume is likley given the road wheelset), I would prefer to connect
    the drum to the right drop lever and the rear caliper to the aerobar
    lever, since on high speed descents or weather conditions effecting
    brakes likely will see me often with hands on the drops for better
    control. If the pull ratio is different then, I'll connect the drums to
    the keeping the old rear lever with the rear caliper.
    Anyone know able to confrim the pull ratio?
    The brand is Suzue.

    Andrew Muzi replied:

    Quoted message said:

    Yes standard levers (not Linear "V" type). MX levers can go well with
    aerobars.
    Suzue tandem hub with Arai drum brake I assume?

    No doubt. My experience with the Arai drums used with _brake_ levers
    is that they often seemed to want a skosh more pull than the levers
    provided. (That has been exclusively on tandems, so the long cable
    may also factor into this. Might well be more satisfactory on a
    single.)

    I would incline more using the main brake levers for the calipers, and
    set the Arai up as a drag brake, using a shift lever, in the time
    honored tandem fashion.

    Sheldon "Two Front Brakes For Me" Brown
    +---------------------------------------------------+
    | Time shouldn't just pass; things should happen. |
    | --Harry Turtledove |
    +---------------------------------------------------+
    Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts
    Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041
    http://harriscyclery.com
    Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide
    http://captainbike.com
    Useful articles about bicycles and cycling
    http://sheldonbrown.com

    No seperate brand markings on the brake.

    I've hooked up the rear calipers to the drops when I replaced handlebars and levers.

    Thanks all.

  5. Sheldon Brown said:

    "meb" queried:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am equipping a road bike commuter with a more robust tandem wheelset.
    I have a rear drum and wish to hook up the rear drum and rim brakes
    seperately, with a third lever on the clip-on aerobars.
    If the pull ratio for road bike calipers is the same as the drum (which
    I presume is likley given the road wheelset), I would prefer to connect
    the drum to the right drop lever and the rear caliper to the aerobar
    lever, since on high speed descents or weather conditions effecting
    brakes likely will see me often with hands on the drops for better
    control. If the pull ratio is different then, I'll connect the drums to
    the keeping the old rear lever with the rear caliper.
    Anyone know able to confrim the pull ratio?
    The brand is Suzue.

    Andrew Muzi replied:

    Quoted message said:

    Yes standard levers (not Linear "V" type). MX levers can go well with
    aerobars.
    Suzue tandem hub with Arai drum brake I assume?

    No doubt. My experience with the Arai drums used with _brake_ levers
    is that they often seemed to want a skosh more pull than the levers
    provided. (That has been exclusively on tandems, so the long cable
    may also factor into this. Might well be more satisfactory on a
    single.)

    I would incline more using the main brake levers for the calipers, and
    set the Arai up as a drag brake, using a shift lever, in the time
    honored tandem fashion.

    Sheldon "Two Front Brakes For Me" Brown
    +---------------------------------------------------+
    | Time shouldn't just pass; things should happen. |
    | --Harry Turtledove |
    +---------------------------------------------------+
    Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts
    Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041
    http://harriscyclery.com
    Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide
    http://captainbike.com
    Useful articles about bicycles and cycling
    http://sheldonbrown.com

    A drag brake was not my intent-most of the hills are modest here in the DC area.
    Rather I would prefer to have a rear brake lever accessible on the areobars as well as the drops and prefer a brake that works in rainy and icy conditions.
    If the friction shifter was recommended due the skosh factor-would you still recommend a friction shifter over a brake lever given my objective?

  6. meb said:


    A drag brake was not my intent-most of the hills are modest here in the
    DC area.
    Rather I would prefer to have a rear brake lever accessible on the
    areobars as well as the drops and prefer a brake that works in rainy and
    icy conditions.

    The Arai drum brake

    http://harriscyclery.net/merchant/370/images/large/HU5001.jpg

    seems to be optimized for use as a drag brake. It can dissipate loads
    of heat, but according to my limited experience it doesn't provide
    good strong momentary braking. It might be enough to satisfy your
    need-- especially in circumstances of impaired traction-- but it isn't
    the equal of a good rim brake, a good disk brake, or even some other
    drums with regard to immediate stopping power.

    Chalo

Active in the last 60 minutes

Active in this thread

0 users · 0 guests ·0 bots ·0 total

No signed-in users are active right now.

No known search crawlers active right now.