ORION II Clincher wheels

bougon said:

Hi, some opinions on this wheelset
compared to Mavic Ksyrium SL and Fulcrum
racing 3

about performance in bigs hills for a guy of 145 lbs
and facility of repair and maintenance
thanks
Denis

Easton Orion II

bougon said:

bougon said:

Hi, some opinions on this wheelset
compared to Mavic Ksyrium SL and Fulcrum
racing 3

Quoted message said:

about performance in bigs hills for a guy of 145 lbs
and facility of repair and maintenance
thanks
Denis

Easton Orion II

www.roadbikereview.com

D'ohBoy

bougon said:

bougon said:

Hi, some opinions on this wheelset
compared to Mavic Ksyrium SL and Fulcrum
racing 3

Quoted message said:

about performance in bigs hills for a guy of 145 lbs
and facility of repair and maintenance

IF you need to replace a spoke, it's gonna not happen unless you find
a really stellar shop that can cut and thread a spoke. The design of
the spoke/hub interface *is* smart--but it's mainly solving a problem
found in poorly build wheels. I'd rather break a spoke at the flange
every couple decades and be able to walk into a shop and be rolling in
a couple minutes for $2.

If you're not racing--a set of Ultegra/OP wheels that are ubiquitous
and cheap at $200 online are hard to beat. 100g more, whoopdeedoo.
That said, the Eastons don't appear to be hype at all. Stuff like the
OC rear rim and drive side brass nipples are smart. Smarter would be
brass spokes all around.

landotter said:

bougon said:

On 28 nov, 19:40, bougon <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hi, some opinions on this wheelset
compared to Mavic Ksyrium SL and Fulcrum
racing 3

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

about performance in bigs hills for a guy of 145 lbs
and facility of repair and maintenance

IF you need to replace a spoke, it's gonna not happen unless you find
a really stellar shop that can cut and thread a spoke. The design of
the spoke/hub interface *is* smart--but it's mainly solving a problem
found in poorly build wheels. I'd rather break a spoke at the flange
every couple decades and be able to walk into a shop and be rolling in
a couple minutes for $2.

If you're not racing--a set of Ultegra/OP wheels that are ubiquitous
and cheap at $200 online are hard to beat. 100g more, whoopdeedoo.
That said, the Eastons don't appear to be hype at all. Stuff like the
OC rear rim and drive side brass nipples are smart. Smarter would be
brass spokes all around.

i have find these orion II for 450$ new
but spoke replacement can be problematic as you say
and what about the Mavic Ksyrium SL
Denis

bougon said:

landotter said:

On Nov 28, 6:42 pm, bougon <[email hidden]> wrote:

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Quoted message said:

On 28 nov, 19:40, bougon <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Hi, some opinions on this wheelset
> compared to Mavic Ksyrium SL and Fulcrum
> racing 3

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> about performance in bigs hills for a guy of 145 lbs
> and facility of repair and maintenance

Quoted message said:

IF you need to replace a spoke, it's gonna not happen unless you find
a really stellar shop that can cut and thread a spoke. The design of
the spoke/hub interface *is* smart--but it's mainly solving a problem
found in poorly build wheels. I'd rather break a spoke at the flange
every couple decades and be able to walk into a shop and be rolling in
a couple minutes for $2.

Quoted message said:

If you're not racing--a set of Ultegra/OP wheels that are ubiquitous
and cheap at $200 online are hard to beat. 100g more, whoopdeedoo.
That said, the Eastons don't appear to be hype at all. Stuff like the
OC rear rim and drive side brass nipples are smart. Smarter would be
brass spokes all around.

i have find these orion II for 450$ new
but spoke replacement can be problematic as you say
and what about the Mavic Ksyrium SL
Denis

Strong wheel, but at 145#, you can get a lighter set of custom wheels
for half the price. If you don't have one in your town, there are
plenty of guys that frequent the newsgroup that can hook you up via
mail order.

landotter said:

bougon said:

On 29 nov, 08:46, landotter <[email hidden]> wrote:

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Quoted message said:

On Nov 28, 6:42 pm, bougon <[email hidden]> wrote:

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Quoted message said:

> On 28 nov, 19:40, bougon <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > Hi, some opinions on this wheelset
> > compared to Mavic Ksyrium SL and Fulcrum
> > racing 3

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > about performance in bigs hills for a guy of 145 lbs
> > and facility of repair and maintenance

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

IF you need to replace a spoke, it's gonna not happen unless you find
a really stellar shop that can cut and thread a spoke. The design of
the spoke/hub interface *is* smart--but it's mainly solving a problem
found in poorly build wheels. I'd rather break a spoke at the flange
every couple decades and be able to walk into a shop and be rolling in
a couple minutes for $2.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If you're not racing--a set of Ultegra/OP wheels that are ubiquitous
and cheap at $200 online are hard to beat. 100g more, whoopdeedoo.
That said, the Eastons don't appear to be hype at all. Stuff like the
OC rear rim and drive side brass nipples are smart. Smarter would be
brass spokes all around.

Quoted message said:

i have find these orion II for 450$ new
but spoke replacement can be problematic as you say
and what about the Mavic Ksyrium SL
Denis

Strong wheel, but at 145#, you can get a lighter set of custom wheels
for half the price. If you don't have one in your town, there are
plenty of guys that frequent the newsgroup that can hook you up via
mail order.

this is an intersting proposition ...
and for a wheelbuilder in canada preferably
Denis

bougon said:

landotter said:

On Nov 29, 9:50 am, bougon <[email hidden]> wrote:

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Quoted message said:

On 29 nov, 08:46, landotter <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> On Nov 28, 6:42 pm, bougon <[email hidden]> wrote:

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Quoted message said:

> > On 28 nov, 19:40, bougon <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > Hi, some opinions on this wheelset
> > > compared to Mavic Ksyrium SL and Fulcrum
> > > racing 3

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > about performance in bigs hills for a guy of 145 lbs
> > > and facility of repair and maintenance

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> IF you need to replace a spoke, it's gonna not happen unless you find
> a really stellar shop that can cut and thread a spoke. The design of
> the spoke/hub interface *is* smart--but it's mainly solving a problem
> found in poorly build wheels. I'd rather break a spoke at the flange
> every couple decades and be able to walk into a shop and be rolling in
> a couple minutes for $2.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> If you're not racing--a set of Ultegra/OP wheels that are ubiquitous
> and cheap at $200 online are hard to beat. 100g more, whoopdeedoo.
> That said, the Eastons don't appear to be hype at all. Stuff like the
> OC rear rim and drive side brass nipples are smart. Smarter would be
> brass spokes all around.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

i have find these orion II for 450$ new
but spoke replacement can be problematic as you say
and what about the Mavic Ksyrium SL
Denis

Quoted message said:

Strong wheel, but at 145#, you can get a lighter set of custom wheels
for half the price. If you don't have one in your town, there are
plenty of guys that frequent the newsgroup that can hook you up via
mail order.

this is an intersting proposition ...
and for a wheelbuilder in canada preferably

With the devaluation of the US dollar--even if you have to pay a duty,
it shouldn't hurt too much. :-P

I'd start a new thread to find a good builder. You can't lose:
cheaper, often lighter, and exactly specced for your needs.

bougon said:

Hi, some opinions on this wheelset
compared to Mavic Ksyrium SL and Fulcrum
racing 3

about performance in bigs hills for a guy of 145 lbs
and facility of repair and maintenance
thanks
Denis

I have the lighter Ascent IIs (Velomax vintage), and I weigh (ahem)
appreciably more than you. Zero problems; never touched 'em. I'd guess
about 5,000 miles on them, with over 15,000 on the "daily beater" Bontrager
Race Lites (also no problems and zero maintenance).

I've never crashed either wheelset, but there are some wicked potholes
around here and I've hit more than a few of them. Both wheelsets have held
up great so far.

Bill "Mr. Smooth (not)" S.

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:48:20 -0800, "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]>

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bougon said:

Hi, some opinions on this wheelset
compared to Mavic Ksyrium SL and Fulcrum
racing 3

about performance in bigs hills for a guy of 145 lbs
and facility of repair and maintenance
thanks
Denis

I have the lighter Ascent IIs (Velomax vintage), and I weigh (ahem)
appreciably more than you. Zero problems; never touched 'em. I'd guess
about 5,000 miles on them, with over 15,000 on the "daily beater" Bontrager
Race Lites (also no problems and zero maintenance).

I've never crashed either wheelset, but there are some wicked potholes
around here and I've hit more than a few of them. Both wheelsets have held
up great so far.

Bill "Mr. Smooth (not)" S.

I have used the Orion II for 5 years and 10,000 + miles. I did break
a spoke one time in the rear. Sent it back to Velomax at the time,
they rebuilt the wheel, replaced the spoke, repacked the hub all for
under $100. Wheel was returned within a week. Great service if a bit
inconvenient.
David

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David James said:

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:48:20 -0800, "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

bougon said:

Hi, some opinions on this wheelset
compared to Mavic Ksyrium SL and Fulcrum
racing 3

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

about performance in bigs hills for a guy of 145 lbs
and facility of repair and maintenance
thanks
Denis

Quoted message said:

I have the lighter Ascent IIs (Velomax vintage), and I weigh (ahem)
appreciably more than you. Zero problems; never touched 'em. I'd guess
about 5,000 miles on them, with over 15,000 on the "daily beater" Bontrager
Race Lites (also no problems and zero maintenance).

Quoted message said:

I've never crashed either wheelset, but there are some wicked potholes
around here and I've hit more than a few of them. Both wheelsets have held
up great so far.

Quoted message said:

Bill "Mr. Smooth (not)" S.

I have used the Orion II for 5 years and 10,000 + miles. I did break
a spoke one time in the rear. Sent it back to Velomax at the time,
they rebuilt the wheel, replaced the spoke, repacked the hub all for
under $100.

With a user serviceable hub, that would have cost $1 for a spoke.

Quoted message said:

Wheel was returned within a week.

Try overnight for a shop, or fifteen minutes if you do it yourself.

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:40:30 -0800 (PST), landotter

may have said:

David James said:

I have used the Orion II for 5 years and 10,000 + miles. I did break
a spoke one time in the rear. Sent it back to Velomax at the time,
they rebuilt the wheel, replaced the spoke, repacked the hub all for
under $100.

With a user serviceable hub, that would have cost $1 for a spoke.

Quoted message said:

Wheel was returned within a week.

Try overnight for a shop, or fifteen minutes if you do it yourself.

In Soviet Russia, broken spoke fixed *you*!

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Quoted message said:

David James said:

I have used the Orion II for 5 years and 10,000 + miles. I did break
a spoke one time in the rear. Sent it back to Velomax at the time,
they rebuilt the wheel, replaced the spoke, repacked the hub all for
under $100.

Quoted message said:

landotter may have said:

With a user serviceable hub, that would have cost $1 for a spoke.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

David James said:

Wheel was returned within a week.

Quoted message said:

landotter may have said:

Try overnight for a shop, or fifteen minutes if you do it yourself.

Werehatrack said:

In Soviet Russia, broken spoke fixed *you*!

'Capitalism is man against man. Socialism is the other way around!'
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Andrew Muzi
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Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Werehatrack said:

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:40:30 -0800 (PST), landotter

may have said:

David James said:

I have used the Orion II for 5 years and 10,000 + miles. I did break
a spoke one time in the rear. Sent it back to Velomax at the time,
they rebuilt the wheel, replaced the spoke, repacked the hub all for
under $100.

Quoted message said:

With a user serviceable hub, that would have cost $1 for a spoke.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Wheel was returned within a week.

Quoted message said:

Try overnight for a shop, or fifteen minutes if you do it yourself.

In Soviet Russia, broken spoke fixed *you*!

Not if you have a Park Spoke Apparatchik.

Andrew Muzi said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

David James <[email hidden]> wrote:
> I have used the Orion II for 5 years and 10,000 + miles. I did break
> a spoke one time in the rear. Sent it back to Velomax at the time,
> they rebuilt the wheel, replaced the spoke, repacked the hub all for
> under $100.

Quoted message said:

landotter may have said:

With a user serviceable hub, that would have cost $1 for a spoke.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

David James <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Wheel was returned within a week.

Quoted message said:

landotter may have said:

Try overnight for a shop, or fifteen minutes if you do it yourself.

Werehatrack said:

In Soviet Russia, broken spoke fixed *you*!

'Capitalism is man against man. Socialism is the other way around!'

When was TRUE socialism ever practiced in Russia? I thought what
happened from 1917 to 1991 was a group of exploiting aristocrats being
replaced by a group of exploiting bureaucrats.

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