36er handle version2

Here's the top view.

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Here's the view of the stoker under the seat.

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Another side view.

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that looks slick!!

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Why have u kept on the kh handle?

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I'm definatly going to try and build something like that, I will
probably try and have it go a bit further out though. How much did that
cost you all together?

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Neat. I like the use of an old school quill style stem. It's amazing
sometimes how bicycle parts that weren't designed to fit together
actually can.

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Danni said:

Why have u kept on the kh handle?

Well, I need the part of the handle that holds on the cover, but I guess
I could remove the gripper part. I guess because so far I haven't
actually destroyed anything and could still make it the way it was.

ntappin said:

How much did that cost you all together?

The stoker stem was about $60 shipped, which is by far the most
expensive part. The quill stem could have been cheaper if I was
patient and got a used one off eBay, but I paid my (very supportive)
LBS guy $25 for it. The used handlebar and pegs came out of his used
parts bin and were $5 together. Oh and $1 for the pair of rubber end
plugs. So about $90. Jeesh, that seems like alot.

john_childs said:

I like the use of an old school quill style stem. It's amazing sometimes
how bicycle parts that weren't designed to fit together actually can.

I guess this particular stoker comes without a boom and specificly calls
for the use of a quill-type stem. Not even any shims in the system.

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that looks amazing. thanks for sharing!

so, if i have this straight;
the "Stoker" is the piece that holds the rear handlebar of a tandem?
And somehow that oldschool threaded stem fits inside perfectly? It
clamps on the frame, do you think it would be the right size for a 27.2
post?

Quoted message said:

it seemed just a tad high

Maybe cutting the handle part off the front bump, will allow you to put
it at the perfect height?

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onetrack said:

the "Stoker" is the piece that holds the rear handlebar of a tandem? And
somehow that oldschool threaded stem fits inside perfectly? It clamps on
the frame, do you think it would be the right size for a 27.2 post?

No, not somehow. This particular stoker is designed to accept the 22mm
quill stem.

onetrack said:

Maybe cutting the handle part off the front bump, will allow you to put
it at the perfect height?

That's a good idea, I may be trying that shortly.

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onetrack said:

...do you think it would be the right size for a 27.2 post?

Sorry I left this question unanswered.

The place I bought the stoker, 'Airbomb' (http://store.airbomb.com/),
has two sizes -

Problem Solvers Adj Stoker 100-230mm115° f/*26.4-27.2mm*
and
Problem Solvers Adj Stoker 100-230mm115° f/*29.4-30.2mm*

(BTW - the 115 degrees noted in the product desc. measures from the
vertical, so it tilts up 25 degrees from the horizontal.)

I couldn't put one on my seatpost because my seat is way too low, so
the stoker (I got the larger size) clamps onto my Radial frame. That
is the smallest diameter it will clamp to. In fact I slipped in a
piece of fine sandpaper to get it to hold better. The Radial's OD of
the frame is probably 29mm or so.

If you got the smaller size, and there's enough room under your seat to
have a 25 degree rising bar under there, you're golden.

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That's a sweet setup dude... I might just have to steal this idea.

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steveyo said:

So about $90. Jeesh, that seems like alot.

It's not so bad compared to the alternatives... a GB4 handle is $45 and
those aren't available anymore. A v-grip handle is $110 from Scott
Wallis, but it's hard to even get a response from him. Both of those
would require a CF base if you can find them and don't want to snap
your seat in half, which is another $80-$170. Plus on yours you can
adjust the angle of the handles or set it further out if you wanted.

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I have the standard coker frame, does anyone know if the OD of the frame
is the same as the radial? This is a pretty sweet setup.

edit: I linked here from the previous thread, did not know it was over
a year old! cool.

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siafirede said:

I have the standard coker frame, does anyone know if the OD of the frame
is the same as the radial? This is a pretty sweet setup.

edit: I linked here from the previous thread, did not know it was over
a year old! cool.

In the opening post he is using it on a stock frame (at least it looks
like it), so I'm guessing that in the description given, that is the
one that it will fit on.

I'm hoping that is right anyways, because I want to build up the same
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He said it was a Radial frame. I think that the Standard coker frame
the the radial are different...but I could be wrong. They look the
same though.

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siafirede said:

He said it was a Radial frame. I think that the Standard coker frame
the the radial are different...but I could be wrong. They look the
same though.

Yes, a Radial frame, but as I said in the descriptions:

The place I bought the stoker, Airbomb, has two sizes -

Problem Solvers Adj Stoker 100-230mm115° f/26.4-27.2mm
and
Problem Solvers Adj Stoker 100-230mm115° f/29.4-30.2mm

So, measure your Coker frame and figure accordingly.

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IIRC the old Coker frame has a smaller seatpost than the Radial, so I'd
guess that the seat tube could also be smaller.

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steveyo said:

Well I tried and failed to create a good handle for my Radial 36er from
a Profile Aerobar. ('See this thread for pics'
(http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53236)). It worked
great except it was too wide under the seat and I found no way to
arrange it to NOT chafe my thighs while pedalling.

So I tried something quite like the 'pure John Childs approach'
(http://tinyurl.com/2nzlh), with a stoker stem. The problem I have is
since I'm only 5'6" tall, my seat is set low and the stokers I'd seen
have too much angle (One was 37 degrees and one was 45 degrees) and
the "boom" part didn't clear the front of the seat.

Then I found a cool one with only 25 degree rise 'here'
(http://store.airbomb.com/ItemDesc.asp?IC=SM8950), but there's no
picture. 'Here's a picture'
(http://www.triathlete.com/store/product.php?id=37235) of the stoker I
used at another store which carries it.

This stoker accepts a plain 22mm quill type bike stem, so no welding.
To that I attached a cut-down piece of handlebar and MTB climbing
pegs.

I may need another stem w/less rise, but we're getting close here. I
rode a mile to test and it seemed just a tad high, but pretty comfy.

Here's the side view.

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