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  1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz
    Since I started following Dr. Oz's recommendations in April 2007, I
    have lost 35 lbs. I'm in better shape now than I've been in over 20
    years. My last check up was in March 2007. High cholesterol, high
    blood pressure, in the beginning stages of congestive heart failure,
    palpitations, tachycardia, excellent candidate for type 2 diabetes
    etc. The way things are going,
    by March 2008 when I go in for my next yearly physical, I'm expecting
    my doctor to be very pleasantly surprised. Perfect BMI, perfect BP,
    perfect cholesterol levels, no sign of heart enlargement. Perfect
    health. Maximum fitness. What I've learned from Dr. Oz is how to
    properly understand health and nutrition. Just as eating poorly,
    getting obese and acquiring heath problems was second nature, now
    eating healthy, losing 5 lbs. a month (that's 60 lbs. in one year
    bringing me to a perfect BMI), and bursting with vitality is now
    second ingrained nature. It's become so easy and so natural, It's
    becoming hard understand why I had such a problem with eating my
    whole

  2. "Zed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz
    Since I started following Dr. Oz's recommendations in April 2007, I
    have lost 35 lbs. I'm in better shape now than I've been in over 20
    years.

    I did some googling on this guy. He's written a number of books on diet and
    longevity. What does he recommend in terms of foods? Low-carb?

    Quoted message said:

    My last check up was in March 2007. High cholesterol, high
    blood pressure, in the beginning stages of congestive heart failure,
    palpitations, tachycardia, excellent candidate for type 2 diabetes
    etc. The way things are going,
    by March 2008 when I go in for my next yearly physical, I'm expecting
    my doctor to be very pleasantly surprised. Perfect BMI, perfect BP,
    perfect cholesterol levels, no sign of heart enlargement. Perfect
    health. Maximum fitness. What I've learned from Dr. Oz is how to
    properly understand health and nutrition. Just as eating poorly,
    getting obese and acquiring heath problems was second nature, now
    eating healthy, losing 5 lbs. a month (that's 60 lbs. in one year
    bringing me to a perfect BMI), and bursting with vitality is now
    second ingrained nature. It's become so easy and so natural, It's
    becoming hard understand why I had such a problem with eating my
    whole

  3. Dr Oz is definitely a low fat guy. There was a CNN interview with Gary
    Taubes and a few others including Dr. Oz he was quite adamant that he
    thought that Taubes was full of [censored] with his new book. Good Calories Bad
    Calories.

  4. Wiser to make LORD Jesus Christ your hero:

    http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

    GOD is the Source of all healing:

    http://HeartMDPhD.com/Healer.asp

    Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

    http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy

    Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

    Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
    Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

    Zed said:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz
    Since I started following Dr. Oz's recommendations in April 2007, I
    have lost 35 lbs. I'm in better shape now than I've been in over 20
    years. My last check up was in March 2007. High cholesterol, high
    blood pressure, in the beginning stages of congestive heart failure,
    palpitations, tachycardia, excellent candidate for type 2 diabetes
    etc. The way things are going,
    by March 2008 when I go in for my next yearly physical, I'm expecting
    my doctor to be very pleasantly surprised. Perfect BMI, perfect BP,
    perfect cholesterol levels, no sign of heart enlargement. Perfect
    health. Maximum fitness. What I've learned from Dr. Oz is how to
    properly understand health and nutrition. Just as eating poorly,
    getting obese and acquiring heath problems was second nature, now
    eating healthy, losing 5 lbs. a month (that's 60 lbs. in one year
    bringing me to a perfect BMI), and bursting with vitality is now
    second ingrained nature. It's become so easy and so natural, It's
    becoming hard understand why I had such a problem with eating my
    whole

  5. em said:

    "Zed" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz
    Since I started following Dr. Oz's recommendations in April 2007, I
    have lost 35 lbs. I'm in better shape now than I've been in over 20
    years.

    I did some googling on this guy. He's written a number of books on diet and
    longevity. What does he recommend in terms of foods? Low-carb?

    To tell the truth, most of what I've learned from him so far has come
    by way of his appearances on the Oprah show. One day while I was
    channel surfing, I saw this guy in scrubs demonstrating various things
    in regard to heath and nutrition. I decided that when I began my
    efforts to become physically fit, to go at it piecemeal taking baby
    steps, rather than getting all hyped up only to have it fizzle.

    Anyways, what I've learned in terms of food, is pretty much what Jack
    LaLanne has always said: "if man made it, don't eat it". And to that,
    seek that which is purely nutritional and beneficial. Dr. Oz goes
    through many different types of foods to emphasize their benefits.
    Many of these we already know about such as green vegetables like
    spinach and broccoli. He also points out foods that are high in
    antioxidants and other beneficial things like lycopine found in tomato
    based products. As far as carbs go, the emphasis in on only eating
    whole grains. Not multi grain, but whole grain. At first I was
    eliminating any and all carbs as much as I could, but then learned
    about the extreme benefits of whole grains in digestion and
    metabolism. I pretty much stick to whole wheat low sodium bread, and
    especially whole wheat pasta. Sometimes I use the whole wheat pasta
    with Classico Roasted Garlic spaghetti sauce since it is by far the
    lowest in sodium compared to all the other regular off the shelf
    brands I've checked. Or I use it in stir fry as lo mein. The whole
    wheat pasta has a heartier consistency to it, likening it lo mein.
    I've also leaned to use canola oil, which in also high in omega 3.
    Oils found in canola and flaxseed have tremendous overall benefits in
    basically keeping your whole machine lubed. The test for an oil is to
    put in the fridge. If it stays clear, then its healthy. If it gets
    cloudy it's less healthy. If it turns into a solid mass, like extra
    virgin olive oil does, then it's even less healthy.
    (but still good for anointing).

    My diet, and I haven't read a single diet book or followed anyone's
    exact plan, so far has been: Mainly fish only (mostly Tilapia and
    Salmon). Regular vegetables; broccoli, green beans, spinach, carrots,
    peas, corn etc. An apple or two a day. And whole wheat. My desire for
    junk food has been replaced by my desire for nutritional food. All
    that junk is just plain addictive the same as cigarettes IMHO. I very
    slowly weaned myself off of it and turned to wholesome home made
    foods. I find the stuff I used to enjoy eating not particularly
    appetizing anymore. And since I no longer relay on food as a comfort,
    an indulgence, a reward etc. I of course eat a lot less. However, I
    expect it to take at least 12 to 18 months for this to begin to become
    a fully and permanently ingrained lifestyle behavior. Mehmet Oz is
    just such and appealing down to earth and compassionate guy, coupled
    with being vastly knowledgeable and highly skilled, you can't help but
    want to follow his advice. Sometimes he utilizes shock tactics as well
    by actually displaying the diseased body parts of those who died
    untimely deaths as a result of poor lifestyle (but he manages to be
    quite endearing as well as entertaining in the process). The most
    dramatic demonstration I've seen so far, was him performing a bypass
    on a patient who had a high fat high cholesterol diet with no exercise
    her whole life. Her heart needless to say was horrifying to look at;
    over sized, sluggish and covered with lumpy fat. I've also learned to
    boost my vitamin intake of A, B, C, D and E as well. Man oh man, do I
    feel good.
    No fads. No techniques. Just a growing knowledge and understanding of
    really good basic nutrition. I'm not even trying to lose weight at
    this point. Excess body fat loss is now just a natural result of
    healthy living, just as excess body fat gain was a result of unhealthy
    living. The sad thing is, I used to think I took reasonably good care
    of myself. I blamed my excess 60 lbs of body fat on a slow metabolism.
    And of course I had a slow metabolism, because I was fueling it so
    poorly. I took the Real Age Test here http://www.realage.com/doctorcenter/intro.aspx
    and received lots of helpful tailored info (without receiving a
    boatload of SPAM).

  6. Andrew B. Chung said:

    Wiser to make LORD Jesus Christ your hero:

    Jesus is my Master and Savior. Dr. Oz is my hero only rhetorically
    speaking, of course.

  7. PB said:

    Dr Oz is definitely a low fat guy. There was a CNN interview with Gary
    Taubes and a few others including Dr. Oz he was quite adamant that he
    thought that Taubes was full of [censored] with his new book. Good Calories Bad
    Calories.

    I didn't see the interview -- was Oz the one who was so adamant that
    Gary Taubes couldn't get a word in edge-wise?

    --
    BlueBrooke
    254/225/135

  8. Zed said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Wiser to make LORD Jesus Christ your hero:

    Jesus is my Master and Savior. Dr. Oz is my hero only rhetorically
    speaking, of course.

    Just curious, but "what would Jesus eat?" now, and "what did he
    eat?" then.

    We never see a fat Jesus, so perhaps he had some secret. Then again,
    I'm guessing there was lots of walking back
    then.

  9. Zed said:

    Anyways, what I've learned in terms of food, is pretty much what Jack
    LaLanne has always said: "if man made it, don't eat it".


    ....

    Quoted message said:

    I've also leaned to use canola oil, which in also high in omega 3.

    Canola oil is a genetically engineered man-made product.

    Jo Anne

  10. Rapeseed that expressed the 'best' of the plant's essences were brought
    together to make what is now known as Canola in the fields

    and this is dangerous?? HOW?

    "Jo Anne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Zed said:

    Anyways, what I've learned in terms of food, is pretty much what Jack
    LaLanne has always said: "if man made it, don't eat it".


    ...

    Quoted message said:

    I've also leaned to use canola oil, which in also high in omega 3.

    Canola oil is a genetically engineered man-made product.

    Jo Anne

  11. Yes I believe so here is a youtube of the interview.


    "BlueBrooke" <.@.> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    PB said:

    Dr Oz is definitely a low fat guy. There was a CNN interview with Gary
    Taubes and a few others including Dr. Oz he was quite adamant that he
    thought that Taubes was full of [censored] with his new book. Good Calories Bad
    Calories.

    I didn't see the interview -- was Oz the one who was so adamant that
    Gary Taubes couldn't get a word in edge-wise?

    --
    BlueBrooke
    254/225/135

  12. Jo Anne said:
    Zed said:

    Anyways, what I've learned in terms of food, is pretty much what Jack
    LaLanne has always said: "if man made it, don't eat it".

    ...

    Quoted message said:

    I've also leaned to use canola oil, which in also high in omega 3.

    Canola oil is a genetically engineered man-made product.

    Oops, sorry Jack. I don't carry that "if man made it, don't eat it"
    philosophy to the nth degree, at least not yet anyway. I tend to apply
    it more to processed junk foods.

  13. "Jo Anne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Zed said:

    Anyways, what I've learned in terms of food, is pretty much what Jack
    LaLanne has always said: "if man made it, don't eat it".


    ...

    Quoted message said:

    I've also leaned to use canola oil, which in also high in omega 3.

    Canola oil is a genetically engineered man-made product.

    Not true.

  14. Canola oil is considered "healthy" because it is low in saturated
    fats. Since we now know that saturated fat ISN'T the problem, why use
    canola oil?

    Well, it's cheap.

  15. Jo Anne said:
    Zed said:

    Anyways, what I've learned in terms of food, is pretty much what Jack
    LaLanne has always said: "if man made it, don't eat it".

    ...

    Quoted message said:

    I've also leaned to use canola oil, which in also high in omega 3.

    Canola oil is a genetically engineered man-made product.

    That's not exactly true. It's the product of selective breeding, not
    genetic engineering.

    The biggest problem is that the majority of the canola oil
    commercially available to consumers is garbage.

    Real alpha-linolenic acid has to be refrigerated and consumed quickly
    because it oxidizes. (And it cannot be used for cooking).

    Whereas the typical store-bought canola oil can be kept on the shelf
    for months. That's wrong, and it shows that the alpha-linolenic acid
    in the original oil has been destroyed by processing.

    In other words, this type of canola product has zero biologically
    useful omega-3.

    You want fresh, cold-pressed, unrefined canola oil. And of course, you
    want to avoid using it for cooking; heat destroys the omega-3 fatty
    acid.

    Mehmet Oz should know all this.

  16. Quoted message said:
    Zed said:

    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Wiser to make LORD Jesus Christ your hero:

    Quoted message said:

    Jesus is my Master and Savior. Dr. Oz is my hero only rhetorically
    speaking, of course.

    Just curious, but "what would Jesus eat?" now, and "what did he
    eat?" then.

    Jesus ate a lot of fish. Bread too, but quality stuff. And a little
    wine here and there.

    Quoted message said:

    We never see a fat Jesus, so perhaps he had some secret.

    Jesus was totally ripped with six pack abs. Look at all the depictions
    in Western art---gothic, Renaissance, you name it.

    Quoted message said:

    Then again, I'm guessing there was lots of walking back
    then.

    Ultramarathoning from one end of Galilee to the other.

    Bad for the muscle mass, though.

  17. Canola oil is a GOOD source for Omega 3 oils

    THAT is why we use it

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Canola oil is considered "healthy" because it is low in saturated
    fats. Since we now know that saturated fat ISN'T the problem, why use
    canola oil?

    Well, it's cheap.

  18. Tiger Lily said:

    Canola oil is a GOOD source for Omega 3 oils

    Yes, the plant seeds actually are, and this is preserved in fresh,
    cold-pressed, unrefined canola oil.

    Alpha-linolenic acid is very sensitive. It won't survive a process
    involving chemical extraction, heating, bleaching, deodorizing, etc.

    Under these processes, some of it turns into trans fat!

    This is what Mary Enig writes about canola oil in an article titled
    the ``The Great Can-Ola Scam, Part 2'':

    ``[...] because canola oil is high in omega-3 fatty acids, which
    easily become rancid and foul-smelling when subjected to oxygen and
    high temperatures, it must be deodorized. The standard deodorization
    process removes a large portion of the omega-3 fatty acids by turning
    them into trans fatty acids. Although the Canadian government lists
    the trans content of canola at a minimal 0.2 percent, research at the
    University of Florida at Gainesville, found trans levels as high as
    4.6 percent in commercial liquid oil.24 The consumer has no clue about
    the presence of trans fatty acids in canola oil because they are not
    listed on the label.''

    The cited reference #24 is this:

    S O'Keefe and others. Levels of Trans Geometrical Isomers of Essential
    Fatty Acids in Some Unhydrogenated US Vegetable Oils. Journal of Food
    Lipids 1994;1:165-176.

    Yes, that jug of tasteless, clear, cheap canola oil that you can keep
    unrefrigerated on the shelf for years and use for deep frying has
    little omega 3, and as much as 4% trans fat.

  19. Kaz Kylheku said:
    Jo Anne said:
    Zed said:

    Anyways, what I've learned in terms of food, is pretty much what Jack
    LaLanne has always said: "if man made it, don't eat it".

    Quoted message said:

    ...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've also leaned to use canola oil, which in also high in omega 3.

    Quoted message said:

    Canola oil is a genetically engineered man-made product.

    That's not exactly true. It's the product of selective breeding, not
    genetic engineering.

    The biggest problem is that the majority of the canola oil
    commercially available to consumers is garbage.

    Real alpha-linolenic acid has to be refrigerated and consumed quickly
    because it oxidizes. (And it cannot be used for cooking).

    Whereas the typical store-bought canola oil can be kept on the shelf
    for months. That's wrong, and it shows that the alpha-linolenic acid
    in the original oil has been destroyed by processing.

    In other words, this type of canola product has zero biologically
    useful omega-3.

    You want fresh, cold-pressed, unrefined canola oil. And of course, you
    want to avoid using it for cooking; heat destroys the omega-3 fatty
    acid.

    Mehmet Oz should know all this.

    Actually he was very specific about keeping it refrigerated and not
    heating it.

  20. Zed said:
    Quoted message said:

    Mehmet Oz should know all this.

    Actually he was very specific about keeping it refrigerated and not
    heating it.

    That doesn't make sense with the widely available refined canola oil,
    which was heated during processing, and isn't kept refrigerated in the
    supermarket. You're locking the barn door after the horse has fled.
    The horse, of course, being a metaphor for all traces of nutrition.

    Does Oz make all of that clear?

    I wouldn't bother with the cold-pressed, unrefined canola oil simply
    because, well, it has competition. If I could find it, why would I
    spend money on that instead of flax oil? Price? I don't consume enough
    of this type of stuff to worry about cost. The daily tablespoon is
    pennies.

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