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  1. Do you have brakes on your unicycle?

    If your answer is yes do you find them helpful?

    Under what conditions or riding locations do your find brakes help?
    Example: Prolonged downhill riding, or long distance commuting

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  2. Answer: Yes
    I love my brake on my KH24, I find I can ride twice as long, as all the
    trails around me are extremelly hilly and take a certain brake finesse.
    Getting used to it was easy and now I think it's the 2nd best tool for
    increasing my riding distance, second only to my camelbak.

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  3. kerosian said:

    Answer: Yes
    I love my brake on my KH24, I find I can ride twice as long, as all the
    trails around me are extremelly hilly and take a certain brake finesse.
    Getting used to it was easy and now I think it's the 2nd best tool for
    increasing my riding distance, second only to my camelbak.

    Are brakes pretty expencive to get and put on a uni? I kinda wanna get
    one for my muni...

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    Dude, unislab, I'm kinda broke cause I just bought a Swedish wiener
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  4. Seach ebay and you can get whole setups pretty cheaply, mine cost $30
    and are unscratched.

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  5. legtod2 said:

    Do you have brakes on your unicycle?

    If your answer is yes do you find them helpful?

    Under what conditions or riding locations do your find brakes help?
    Example: Prolonged downhill riding, or long distance commuting

    Yes. Maguras on my Muni, and V brakes on my 36er. For DH MUni, they are
    the diference between control and becoming a "runaway train!"

    Case in point:

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  6. I'd be interested in adding a brake to my '06 KH24. It's got all the
    magura mounts...but suppose I wanted to get one of the cheaper $30
    brakes on eBay referenced above? Would they fit, too? Is everything
    standardized?

    $179 seems like an awful lot for a magura from UDC at this point in my
    financial situation.

    Any way I could get off for a lot less and still have a decent brake?

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  7. I paid $30 for the same brake listed on UDC, seach ebay for "Magura
    HS-33" and you can usually pick 'em up pretty cheap, sometimes you
    still have to get the brake mounts, but they're only like 15 bucks.

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  8. legtod2 said:

    Do you have brakes on your unicycle?

    If your answer is yes do you find them helpful?

    Under what conditions or riding locations do your find brakes help?
    Example: Prolonged downhill riding, or long distance commuting

    Do I have brakes? Sometimes

    Do I find them helpful? Yes. Very much.

    I don't use brakes on my daily commute as there's not a lot of hills,
    so they're not normally fitted to my uni. For things like the 24 hour
    muni race this summer, or the tour I did through Wales[1], they were
    fitted and pretty much essential.

    STM

    [1] Wales is an annagram for 'king hilly place

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  9. legtod2 said:

    Do you have brakes on your unicycle?

    If your answer is yes do you find them helpful?

    Under what conditions or riding locations do your find brakes help?
    Example: Prolonged downhill riding, or long distance commuting

    When I'm big wheel commuting / touring I don't usually feel the need
    for brakes because I don't live in a very hilly area. Hills took some
    getting used to on the big wheel, and there are certainly hills that I
    would once have found difficult to ride down in a controlled fashion
    that I now think nothing of. Being used to the funny technique of
    holding a big wheel back on a downhill is important (and it's sensible
    to get that technique nailed down before riding hills amongst traffic!
    I had a bad experience due to lack of experience in this area).

    My first experiences bigwheeling down paved hills were on a 29er; since
    then I've also been down some much steeper stuff offroad. In the past
    few months I've fitted a cheap calliper brake, which I have been
    experimenting with occasionally. I find now that a brake can improve
    control on those very steep hills, particularly if I'm running shorter
    cranks. For touring a brake can also be useful to take some pressure
    off your leg during long, steep onroad descents (for this, it may be
    appropriate to set up a drag brake rather than a normal lever).
    There's nothing that I ride where I really need this though; it's
    ridiculously flat here 😉

    You can fit a calliper brake by drilling a single hole through the
    crown of the fork. I got my LBS to do it; they also added some
    reinforcement to the crown, although I'm not really sure it was
    necessary. Calliper brakes can be configured as normal grab brakes, or
    as drag brakes. I've heard that folks have had success with using a
    unindexed gear shifter to control the brake to create an adjustable
    drag brake (but a gear shifter won't be able to take such high forces
    as a brake lever, so possibly you shouldn't try to brake really hard
    with one!).

    Calliper brakes are dead cheap and just use a normal brake cable. Lots
    of folks also use maguras, particularly muni-ers. Maguras are
    hydraulic brakes. The Nimbus 36 has mounts available for maguras -
    that said, Roger at unicycle.com (who designed the N36 frame) has said
    that he still thinks a calliper brake is better on a 36".

    Hope that helps!

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  10. You could buy brake adapters, 4 Bolt Magura to V-Brake conversion.

    [image:
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    Those happen to be expensive ones at $45... but you can find cheaper
    ones I believe as low as $10-$15.

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  11. legtod2 said:

    Do you have brakes on your unicycle?

    If your answer is yes do you find them helpful?

    Under what conditions or riding locations do your find brakes help?
    Example: Prolonged downhill riding, or long distance commuting

    yes, I have them on my KH 24 with 150s

    yes I love them, but they are only nice for smooth steep long
    downhills, because you can't really use them on rocky bumpy stuff.

    so my opinion is that on a coker they are practically mandatory for
    long rides, and on a muni they are nice.

    you can probably get a set of two off ebay for around $80, and then
    your set for both unis.

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    just think of it like a roller coaster.


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  12. legtod2 said:

    Do you have brakes on your unicycle?

    No, I only have one brake per unicycle? :p

    I have one of my KH29 MUni and one on my N36. Sometimes I'd like one
    on my KH24, but I usually don't ride it far enough to reap the "saving
    the knees" benefit on downhills.

    A brake can be quite difficult to use on rough downhills, but there are
    times when it can really help, especially for larger wheel MUni.

    The more I ride my N36, the less I feel a need for a brake on the road.
    Except for the steepest of roads, I find that I often feather the
    brake as a precautionary measure more than out of necessity. Smooth
    pedaling technique can go a long way.

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  13. Since my frame has no mounting brackets for brakes how do I attach
    them.

    Kinda leary about drilling holes into frame.

    Any links to how to do this.

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  14. legtod2 said:

    Since my frame has no mounting brackets for brakes how do I attach
    them.

    Kinda leary about drilling holes into frame.

    Any links to how to do this.

    if you want maguras you'll need to get mounts brazed on to your frame,
    i'm not sure this option is even aviable for v-brakes. Unfortunately
    frames with brake mounts are expensive as they are high-end pieces of
    kit so just swapping the frame out will cost a lot.

    and to answer your previous questions, I have brakes on my KH24 and
    N36, on the KH they save leg wear and make rough downhill much more
    easy, as you can rely on the brakes to keep your speed down, so be
    light on the pedals for the fine control needed to ride rough terrain.
    With no brakes you have to be very heavy on the back pedal and lose
    that fine control. Less important on the N36, but nice to have for the
    odd serious hill i run in to.

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  15. legtod2 said:

    Since my frame has no mounting brackets for brakes how do I attach
    them.

    Kinda leary about drilling holes into frame.

    Any links to how to do this.

    It depends on what kind of brake you want, and how you plan to use it.

    If it's for your 29" just to make steep hills a bit shallower, then a
    caliper brake would be fine. You will need to drill a hole in the
    crown though, but that isn't really too complicated.

    There was a detailed write up on how to do this in the first edition of
    Uni magazine, and there's some photos to look at here too;
    http://tinyurl.com/y22s9u

    STM

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  16. after doing a 2km downhill on the road to get to my offroad trails I
    decided I would like to try some brakes.Being a stubborn scrooge with
    scottish ancestry I scrounged around my collection of discarded bike
    bits and came up with this.I generally use my brakes as a drag down
    hills it is controlled by an old racer gear changer so it has a
    friction lever ,you just set it to match the hill and cruise down the
    hill like it is flat.Only very occasionally do I use it while muniing.
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  17. kington99 said:

    if you want maguras you'll need to get mounts brazed on to your frame,
    i'm not sure this option is even aviable for v-brakes. Unfortunately
    frames with brake mounts are expensive as they are high-end pieces of
    kit so just swapping the frame out will cost a lot.

    The details of this are:-

    Magura mounts cost £20 / $40.

    Mine cost me £3/6$ to get them brazed on by the local welding shop.
    What you need to do to get it cheap is prepare it a bit, then it's only
    a 5 minute job for the welder (bike shops will sometimes do magura
    mounts, but typically for more like another £20):

    1)Work out where the mounts need to go on the frame.
    2)Sand off the top layer of chrome from where the tabs on the brake
    mounts touch the frame.
    3)Clamp the mounts onto the frame using hose clamps (I needed a small
    block of wood and a hose clamp for the size clamps I had hanging
    around). The hose clamps cost 50p each from a hardware shop.
    4)Make sure it's all in the right place. Having a bolt in the mount
    helps here as you can see how straight it is. The specifications for
    where it has to be compared to the rim are on magura.com
    5)Make really really sure it's all in the right place
    6)Take it to the welding shop, say any chance you can weld the tabs on
    these mounts on, and how much.

    You can alternatively get v-brake mounts put on, cost something like
    £10-£20 2 of our local bike shops can do it, so I guess it's just a
    matter of asking round your local bike shops until you find one that
    can.

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  18. legtod2 said:

    Since my frame has no mounting brackets for brakes how do I attach
    them.

    Kinda leary about drilling holes into frame.

    Any links to how to do this.

    v-brake (drilled):

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  19. scotthue said:

    v-brake (drilled):

    That's a caliper brake, not a v-brake.

    Joe

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