Edinburgh

Centurian_Ooo'yabass said:

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1803912007

"The High Court in Edinburgh heard that it was fortunate he was
wearing a helmet when he was knocked to the ground"

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Centurian_Ooo'yabass said:

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1803912007

"The High Court in Edinburgh heard that it was fortunate he was
wearing a helmet when he was knocked to the ground"

Excellent point riasethe. WTF is it?

raisethe said:

Centurian_Ooo'yabass said:

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1803912007

"The High Court in Edinburgh heard that it was fortunate he was
wearing a helmet when he was knocked to the ground"

"Defence counsel Sarah Livingstone said for "one or two minutes the red
mist" came over first offender Chaudhry."

Then two sentences later:

"The defence counsel urged the judge not to jail Chaudhry who was
assessed as being at very low risk of re-offending."

Someone that sees red at such mild 'provocation' is a high risk and
needs treatment.

x-no-archive: Chris said:

Then two sentences later:

"The defence counsel urged the judge not to jail Chaudhry who was
assessed as being at very low risk of re-offending."

Someone that sees red at such mild 'provocation' is a high risk and
needs treatment.

And a lifetime driving ban.

"Yup lets hope he mulls over the "red mist" in his encarceration.

Saw a taxi drive over a dispatch rider in Edinburgh last year.
I was behind the taxi.
The riders bike was US I stopped and got out of my car I was trembling with
shock- the dispatch rider picked up his wreck pulled out his [censored] and had a
smoke completely unphased.
The taxi did not stop.
One tried to drive over me last night the only problem for him was I was in
my Volvo "tank" he thought better of it--.
Tam

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mist" came over first offender Chaudhry."

Then two sentences later:

"The defence counsel urged the judge not to jail Chaudhry who was assessed
as being at very low risk of re-offending."

Someone that sees red at such mild 'provocation' is a high risk and needs
treatment.

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:20:04 GMT, "tam" <[email hidden]>

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One tried to drive over me last night the only problem for him was I was in
my Volvo "tank" he thought better of it--.

MX is that minicab, and to an extent also black cab, drivers
consistently show the poorest standard of driving of any vehicles on
the road, with one possible exception of white van drivers.

Neil

--
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

Edinburgh drivers by and large are very polite as a rule with much polite
waving as distinct from the hair raising murderous kamikaze antics I find on
my visits to my daughter in Leeds.
However in rush hour the "red mist" descends.
The taxi was an airport taxi and he wanted my bit of road- no problem drive
inches from my back bumper- so I just slowed down-he must have seen the
scuffed corners on my bumper its 11 year old number plate and its
rusty-but-deadly- ancient tow ball-yup I tow a caravan-and thought better of
it.
Tam

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

One tried to drive over me last night the only problem for him was I was
in
my Volvo "tank" he thought better of it--.

MX is that minicab, and to an extent also black cab, drivers
consistently show the poorest standard of driving of any vehicles on
the road, with one possible exception of white van drivers.

Neil

--
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

Neil Williams said:

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:20:04 GMT, "tam" <[email hidden]>

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One tried to drive over me last night the only problem for him was I was in
my Volvo "tank" he thought better of it--.

MX is that minicab, and to an extent also black cab, drivers
consistently show the poorest standard of driving of any vehicles on
the road

I find that black cab drivers *in London* (I don't know about other
places) are typically decisive, assertive, know their vehicle dimensions
and have good road awareness. Or put another way, they're arrogant fat
slobs who have no compunction about trying to bully anyone or anything
off the road if it's in the way of where they want to go.

Mind you, I generally only notice the bad ones: it's just that there are
so many black cabs in London the behaviour of said minority does mean I
meet them frequently.

I was following one home[*] the other day, in an impromptu gaggle of
10-20 cyclists going down Clerkenwell Road/Old St. After he'd beeped to
cut a bunch up changing lanes, beeped because there was someone in front
who he didn't have space to get round, then beeped again at a group of
pedestrians crossing in front of him _even though there was stopped
traffic ten metres ahead_, I pulled alongside in Shoreditch muttering
"you're an impatient sod", which I thought was quite polite in the
circumstances. He wound his window down to ask "what did you say", I
responded "You're very impatient aren't you?". His reply? "Nah mate, I
just want to get home for my tea".

Obviously I'd forgotten that bit in the Highway Code that says "the taxi
driver with low blood sugar always has right of way". But hey. I
didn't reply, I just continued cycling up the outside of the queue of
traffic, crossed the junction a light phase ahead of him, and was home
in time for tea probably before he was another 200 metres down the road.

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with one possible exception of white van drivers.

Continuing to stereotype massively, white van drivers are just as
arrogant but on the whole seem to be not technically as good drivers.
This makes them marginally less likely to get quite as close (they'll
resort to verbal abuse instead) but more likely to cause an accident
through error if they do. On the whole I'd rather the cabbie: they'll
push hard but they know where the edge is.

[*] in the context, I should make it clear that I was cycling to _my_
home, not following him to his.

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:22:04 -0800 (PST) someone who may be raisethe
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

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Quoted message said:

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1803912007

"The High Court in Edinburgh heard that it was fortunate he was
wearing a helmet when he was knocked to the ground"

Perhaps not. Had he not been wearing a helmet the motorist may not
have decided to drive his car into the cyclist.

--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

tam said:

"Yup lets hope he mulls over the "red mist" in his encarceration.

Saw a taxi drive over a dispatch rider in Edinburgh last year.
I was behind the taxi.
The riders bike was US I stopped and got out of my car I was trembling with
shock- the dispatch rider picked up his wreck pulled out his [censored] and had a
smoke completely unphased.
The taxi did not stop.
One tried to drive over me last night the only problem for him was I was in
my Volvo "tank" he thought better of it--.

That was a remarkably lucky escape if an FX4 or similar was driven
over him. He must have been severely injured with more than his bike
being unserviceable?

"JNugent" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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tam said:

"Yup lets hope he mulls over the "red mist" in his encarceration.

Saw a taxi drive over a dispatch rider in Edinburgh last year.
I was behind the taxi.
The riders bike was US I stopped and got out of my car I was trembling
with shock- the dispatch rider picked up his wreck pulled out his [censored]
and had a smoke completely unphased.
The taxi did not stop.

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That was a remarkably lucky escape if an FX4 or similar was driven over
him. He must have been severely injured with more than his bike being
unserviceable?

It was a black taxi
..It was at the junction of Regent Road and London Road where the famous
sweet shop is.
It was a Saturday.
All the traffic was trying to go up the hill from- Easter Road? including
me.
The vehicles were being jammed in as they went up the hill.
Everyone was rushing to beat the second set of lights turning red I was in
the inside lane so I saw the taxi rush towards the bike the dispatch rider
was trying to jink thro the traffic- the taxi just hit the bike from
behind - the rider flew off to the right- he bowled over like an expert
paratrooper onto the grass verge-.
It was all over so fast-incredibly quick-
The bike was just junk.
Taxi vanished never slackened his speed-he must have seen the flying
cyclist.
Tam

tam said:

JNugent said:

tam wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Saw a taxi drive over a dispatch rider in Edinburgh last year.
I was behind the taxi.
The riders bike was US I stopped and got out of my car I was trembling
with shock- the dispatch rider picked up his wreck pulled out his [censored]
and had a smoke completely unphased.
The taxi did not stop.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

That was a remarkably lucky escape if an FX4 or similar was driven over
him. He must have been severely injured with more than his bike being
unserviceable?

Quoted message said:

It was a black taxi
.It was at the junction of Regent Road and London Road where the famous
sweet shop is.
It was a Saturday.
All the traffic was trying to go up the hill from- Easter Road? including
me.
The vehicles were being jammed in as they went up the hill.
Everyone was rushing to beat the second set of lights turning red I was in
the inside lane so I saw the taxi rush towards the bike the dispatch rider
was trying to jink thro the traffic- the taxi just hit the bike from
behind - the rider flew off to the right- he bowled over like an expert
paratrooper onto the grass verge-.
It was all over so fast-incredibly quick-
The bike was just junk.
Taxi vanished never slackened his speed-he must have seen the flying
cyclist.

Ah, right. I imagined a different type of incident when I read "drive
over".

Still, it was bad enough. Did someone get the number of the vehicle,
do you know?

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>Saw a taxi drive over a dispatch rider in Edinburgh last year.
>I was behind the taxi.
>The riders bike was US I stopped and got out of my car I was trembling
>with shock- the dispatch rider picked up his wreck pulled out his [censored]
>and had a smoke completely unphased.
>The taxi did not stop.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

That was a remarkably lucky escape if an FX4 or similar was driven over
him. He must have been severely injured with more than his bike being
unserviceable?

Quoted message said:

It was a black taxi
.It was at the junction of Regent Road and London Road where the famous
sweet shop is.
It was a Saturday.
All the traffic was trying to go up the hill from- Easter Road? including
me.
The vehicles were being jammed in as they went up the hill.
Everyone was rushing to beat the second set of lights turning red I was
in the inside lane so I saw the taxi rush towards the bike the dispatch
rider was trying to jink thro the traffic- the taxi just hit the bike
from behind - the rider flew off to the right- he bowled over like an
expert paratrooper onto the grass verge-.
It was all over so fast-incredibly quick-
The bike was just junk.
Taxi vanished never slackened his speed-he must have seen the flying
cyclist.

Ah, right. I imagined a different type of incident when I read "drive
over".

Still, it was bad enough. Did someone get the number of the vehicle, do
you know?

Not that I know of the dispatch rider stood bloody[elbows-knees grazed]and
bleeding smoking his [censored].
Perhaps if he had lain prone-not moving-people would have made more effort.
The traffic was very heavy and the taxi vanished in a fairly practiced way
ie he turned left on a no turning left
on amber thereby obscuring his number plate and effectively vanishing behind
Regent Road Annexe.
The dispatch rider wanted no fuss he just dragged his bike to the road edge.
Our cars were blocking the traffic and a fairly massive jam built up.
So we moved on-no police appeared.
Tam