alan bike value?

Rough new price from a shop about $3K. A 5 year old bike of this type is hard to judge and depends
on what you want and what you're willing to pay for it. Be sure and have it inspected closely
since Altec is a somewhat light tubeset and can crack around the bottom bracket like all light
aluminum bikes.

Alan is a good manufacturer but I don't know if they made that one. There's a lot of this buying and
relabeling stuff going on.

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Hi could anybody give me a rough idea of the 2ndhand value of an

Alan bike

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which I specify below-

Alan - columbus altec2 Campag Chorus set, 9 speed montreal ambrosio wheel rims Italia seat keywin
pedals cinelli handle bars

All in good condition, about 5 years old

Actually even a rough value of what this would have been to buy new

would be

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useful

much appreciated

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Thanks, is that US dollars? Actually I am not looking at buying this bike, this is all to do with a
divorce settlement where the person who has the bike has had it valued at $1500 and I just want to
check that I am not getting ripped off as the shop that valued it may not have a clue to the value
of this bike as they don't sell racing bikes, anyhow the value seemed a bit low to me but then I
have been out of cycle racing for more than 10 years now and am very out of touch, I just need a
rough idea of value so I know if I should accept the valuation. The bike is in very good condition.
The frame was imported by a local cyclist who builds bikes and sells them.

Thanks

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Rough new price from a shop about $3K. A 5 year old bike of this type is hard to judge and depends
on what you want and what you're willing to pay for it. Be sure and have it inspected closely
since Altec is a somewhat light tubeset and can crack around the bottom bracket like all light
aluminum bikes.

Alan is a good manufacturer but I don't know if they made that one. There's a lot of this buying
and relabeling stuff going on.

"kiwibiker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Hi could anybody give me a rough idea of the 2ndhand value of an

Alan bike

Quoted message said:

which I specify below-

Alan - columbus altec2 Campag Chorus set, 9 speed montreal ambrosio wheel rims Italia seat
keywin pedals cinelli handle bars

All in good condition, about 5 years old

Actually even a rough value of what this would have been to buy new

would be

Quoted message said:

useful

much appreciated

remove the word spam from email address when replying by email

I would think that $1500 NZ is a pretty high price for a 5 year old bike.

I paid $3600 US for an Eddy Merckx Corsa 0.1 in about '95. The Alan frame is probably a little
cheaper than the Merckx was here and I had a Chorus group on it at that time.

"kiwibiker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Thanks, is that US dollars? Actually I am not looking at buying this bike, this is all to do

with a

Quoted message said:

divorce settlement where the person who has the bike has had it

valued at

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$1500 and I just want to check that I am not getting ripped off as

the shop

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that valued it may not have a clue to the value of this bike as they

don't

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sell racing bikes, anyhow the value seemed a bit low to me but then

I have

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been out of cycle racing for more than 10 years now and am very out

of

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touch, I just need a rough idea of value so I know if I should

accept the

Quoted message said:

valuation. The bike is in very good condition. The frame was

imported by a

Quoted message said:

local cyclist who builds bikes and sells them.

Thanks

"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Rough new price from a shop about $3K. A 5 year old bike of this

type

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is hard to judge and depends on what you want and what you're

willing

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to pay for it. Be sure and have it inspected closely since Altec

is a

Quoted message said:

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somewhat light tubeset and can crack around the bottom bracket

like

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all light aluminum bikes.

Alan is a good manufacturer but I don't know if they made that

one.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

There's a lot of this buying and relabeling stuff going on.

"kiwibiker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi could anybody give me a rough idea of the 2ndhand value of an

Alan bike

Quoted message said:

which I specify below-

Alan - columbus altec2 Campag Chorus set, 9 speed montreal ambrosio wheel rims Italia seat
keywin pedals cinelli handle bars

All in good condition, about 5 years old

Actually even a rough value of what this would have been to buy

new

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

would be

Quoted message said:

useful

much appreciated

remove the word spam from email address when replying by email

You must be joking, US $820, I don't think so.

"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I would think that $1500 NZ is a pretty high price for a 5 year old bike.

I paid $3600 US for an Eddy Merckx Corsa 0.1 in about '95. The Alan frame is probably a little
cheaper than the Merckx was here and I had a Chorus group on it at that time.

"kiwibiker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Thanks, is that US dollars? Actually I am not looking at buying this bike, this is all to do

with a

Quoted message said:

divorce settlement where the person who has the bike has had it

valued at

Quoted message said:

$1500 and I just want to check that I am not getting ripped off as

the shop

Quoted message said:

that valued it may not have a clue to the value of this bike as they

don't

Quoted message said:

sell racing bikes, anyhow the value seemed a bit low to me but then

I have

Quoted message said:

been out of cycle racing for more than 10 years now and am very out

of

Quoted message said:

touch, I just need a rough idea of value so I know if I should

accept the

Quoted message said:

valuation. The bike is in very good condition. The frame was

imported by a

Quoted message said:

local cyclist who builds bikes and sells them.

Thanks

"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Rough new price from a shop about $3K. A 5 year old bike of this

type

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Quoted message said:

is hard to judge and depends on what you want and what you're

willing

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to pay for it. Be sure and have it inspected closely since Altec

is a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

somewhat light tubeset and can crack around the bottom bracket

like

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

all light aluminum bikes.

Alan is a good manufacturer but I don't know if they made that

one.

Quoted message said:

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There's a lot of this buying and relabeling stuff going on.

"kiwibiker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
> Hi could anybody give me a rough idea of the 2ndhand value of an
Alan bike
> which I specify below-
>
> Alan - columbus altec2 Campag Chorus set, 9 speed montreal ambrosio wheel rims Italia seat
> keywin pedals cinelli handle bars
>
> All in good condition, about 5 years old
>
> Actually even a rough value of what this would have been to buy

new

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would be
> useful
>
> much appreciated
>
> remove the word spam from email address when replying by email
>
>
>
>

The $1500 is US dollars by the way and it's a maximum of 5 years old, I can't remember really, it
could be as little as 3 years old.

"kiwibiker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Thanks, is that US dollars? Actually I am not looking at buying this bike, this is all to do with
a divorce settlement where the person who has the bike has had it valued at $1500 and I just want
to check that I am not getting ripped off as the

shop

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that valued it may not have a clue to the value of this bike as they don't sell racing bikes,
anyhow the value seemed a bit low to me but then I have been out of cycle racing for more than 10
years now and am very out of touch, I just need a rough idea of value so I know if I should accept
the valuation. The bike is in very good condition. The frame was imported by a local cyclist who
builds bikes and sells them.

Thanks

"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Rough new price from a shop about $3K. A 5 year old bike of this type is hard to judge and
depends on what you want and what you're willing to pay for it. Be sure and have it inspected
closely since Altec is a somewhat light tubeset and can crack around the bottom bracket like all
light aluminum bikes.

Alan is a good manufacturer but I don't know if they made that one. There's a lot of this buying
and relabeling stuff going on.

"kiwibiker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi could anybody give me a rough idea of the 2ndhand value of an

Alan bike

Quoted message said:

which I specify below-

Alan - columbus altec2 Campag Chorus set, 9 speed montreal ambrosio wheel rims Italia seat
keywin pedals cinelli handle bars

All in good condition, about 5 years old

Actually even a rough value of what this would have been to buy new

would be

Quoted message said:

useful

much appreciated

remove the word spam from email address when replying by email

Actually - I've got to side with Kunich on this one. 5 Years is an eon as it relates to components
especially. Bikes loose value very quickly - just check ebay to see what 5 year old bikes go for.
People don't want to pay for used, out of date components. If you want to put a "value" on that bike
- I think $800 US is pretty close.

Now - if you are talking legal "new replacement of equal quality" (like if you were hit by a car),
then you get to assign a value to what a similarly spec'd bike would cost today. That way, there
isn't the issue of a buyer and you can go get a bike in a comperably market position (Chorus,
mid-upper frame, etc, etc). That would be closer to $3000 US.

-a

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You must be joking, US $820, I don't think so.

"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I would think that $1500 NZ is a pretty high price for a 5 year old bike.

I paid $3600 US for an Eddy Merckx Corsa 0.1 in about '95. The Alan frame is probably a little
cheaper than the Merckx was here and I had a Chorus group on it at that time.

Thanks, that's a useful assessment, thanks. The later price that you gave is more like I thought,
you bring a good point up on 2ndhand value and replacement value, that is a very good point. Still I
am very surprised at how much you think bikes devalue, 10 years ago here in New Zealand that was
certainly not the case, not sure about now, it maybe a country specific thing and it probably
depends on how much componentry has change over the last 5 years, like when they went from gear
changing on the bike frame to handle bar gear changing, that would have obsoleted a lot of bikes and
caused a greater devaluing than normal.

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Actually - I've got to side with Kunich on this one. 5 Years is an eon as it relates to components
especially. Bikes loose value very quickly - just check ebay to see what 5 year old bikes go for.
People don't want to pay for used, out of date components. If you want to put a "value" on that
bike - I think $800 US is pretty close.

Now - if you are talking legal "new replacement of equal quality" (like if you were hit by a car),
then you get to assign a value to what a similarly spec'd bike would cost today. That way, there
isn't the issue of a buyer and you can go get a bike in a comperably market position (Chorus,
mid-upper frame, etc, etc). That would be closer to $3000 US.

-a

"kiwibiker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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You must be joking, US $820, I don't think so.

"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I would think that $1500 NZ is a pretty high price for a 5 year old bike.

I paid $3600 US for an Eddy Merckx Corsa 0.1 in about '95. The Alan frame is probably a little
cheaper than the Merckx was here and I had a Chorus group on it at that time.

10 years ago you could only buy downtube Campi shifting and it didn't even index vey well. (That was
the original Syncro shifter if I recall properly - Syncro II on the other hand was and is
marvelous.)

10 years ago the best tubing for a bike was Reynolds 531 and Columbus SLX. Neither is highly sought
after now. Your Alan was glued and screwed in those days and could be essentially worthless as a
useable frame except to someone that wanted a collectors item to ride.

Such a bike with such equipment would be almost worthless right now except to someone that wanted
exactly the bike you were offering.

"kiwibiker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Thanks, that's a useful assessment, thanks. The later price that you

gave is

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more like I thought, you bring a good point up on 2ndhand value and replacement value, that is a
very good point. Still I am very

surprised at

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how much you think bikes devalue, 10 years ago here in New Zealand

that was

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certainly not the case, not sure about now, it maybe a country

specific

Quoted message said:

thing and it probably depends on how much componentry has change

over the

Quoted message said:

last 5 years, like when they went from gear changing on the bike

frame to

Quoted message said:

handle bar gear changing, that would have obsoleted a lot of bikes

and

Quoted message said:

caused a greater devaluing than normal.

"Andrew Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Actually - I've got to side with Kunich on this one. 5 Years is

an

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

eon as it relates to components especially. Bikes loose value

very

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quickly - just check ebay to see what 5 year old bikes go for.

People

Quoted message said:

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don't want to pay for used, out of date components. If you want

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

put a "value" on that bike - I think $800 US is pretty close.

Now - if you are talking legal "new replacement of equal quality" (like if you were hit by a
car), then you get to assign a value to what a similarly spec'd bike would cost today. That
way, there

isn't

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Quoted message said:

the issue of a buyer and you can go get a bike in a comperably

market

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

position (Chorus, mid-upper frame, etc, etc). That would be

closer to

Quoted message said:

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$3000 US.

-a

"kiwibiker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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You must be joking, US $820, I don't think so.

"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I would think that $1500 NZ is a pretty high price for a 5

year old

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> bike.
>
> I paid $3600 US for an Eddy Merckx Corsa 0.1 in about '95. The

Alan

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> frame is probably a little cheaper than the Merckx was here

and I had

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> a Chorus group on it at that time.
>

The Alan is 3-5 years old, you are talking about a 10 year old alan if I understand you correctly.

"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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10 years ago you could only buy downtube Campi shifting and it didn't even index vey well. (That
was the original Syncro shifter if I recall properly - Syncro II on the other hand was and is
marvelous.)

10 years ago the best tubing for a bike was Reynolds 531 and Columbus SLX. Neither is highly
sought after now. Your Alan was glued and screwed in those days and could be essentially worthless
as a useable frame except to someone that wanted a collectors item to ride.

Such a bike with such equipment would be almost worthless right now except to someone that wanted
exactly the bike you were offering.

"kiwibiker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Thanks, that's a useful assessment, thanks. The later price that you

gave is

Quoted message said:

more like I thought, you bring a good point up on 2ndhand value and replacement value, that is a
very good point. Still I am very

surprised at

Quoted message said:

how much you think bikes devalue, 10 years ago here in New Zealand

that was

Quoted message said:

certainly not the case, not sure about now, it maybe a country

specific

Quoted message said:

thing and it probably depends on how much componentry has change

over the

Quoted message said:

last 5 years, like when they went from gear changing on the bike

frame to

Quoted message said:

handle bar gear changing, that would have obsoleted a lot of bikes

and

Quoted message said:

caused a greater devaluing than normal.

"Andrew Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Actually - I've got to side with Kunich on this one. 5 Years is

an

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

eon as it relates to components especially. Bikes loose value

very

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

quickly - just check ebay to see what 5 year old bikes go for.

People

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

don't want to pay for used, out of date components. If you want

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

put a "value" on that bike - I think $800 US is pretty close.

Now - if you are talking legal "new replacement of equal quality" (like if you were hit by a
car), then you get to assign a value to what a similarly spec'd bike would cost today. That
way, there

isn't

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the issue of a buyer and you can go get a bike in a comperably

market

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

position (Chorus, mid-upper frame, etc, etc). That would be

closer to

Quoted message said:

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$3000 US.

-a

"kiwibiker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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> You must be joking, US $820, I don't think so.
>
>
> "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > I would think that $1500 NZ is a pretty high price for a 5

year old

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> > bike.
> >
> > I paid $3600 US for an Eddy Merckx Corsa 0.1 in about '95. The

Alan

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> > frame is probably a little cheaper than the Merckx was here

and I had

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> > a Chorus group on it at that time.
> >

"kiwibiker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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The Alan is 3-5 years old, you are talking about a 10 year old alan if I understand you correctly.

No, I was just addressing your comments about 10 years ago by demonstrating that a ten year old bike
was essentially worthless. You can't buy replacement parts for the components from that time very
easily and in some cases not at all. Hell, you can't even buy replacement Sachs Ergo levers from 6
years ago.

All of this militates against high quality bicycles retaining their financial worth even though they
can be in like-new condition after 50,000 miles.