Canadian EPO

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Quebecois doctor accused of supplying EPO The disciplinary committee of the Quebec Collège des
médecins is to hear a complaint at the end of the month against a Quebecois doctor accused of
inappropriately prescribing EPO to athletes including cyclists, according to

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report in Montreal newspaper La Presse.

Dr. Maurice Duquette allegedly offered EPO to a cyclist from the Fédération québécoise des sports
cyclistes (FQSC), leading to a complaint against the doctor by the FQSC in winter 2001 and
subsequent investigation. According to one of the 14 items comprising the complaint, Dr
Duquette's patients at the Fleury hospital and in his private practice in Vieux-Montréal
included "elite athletes and coaches".

The full complaint relates to 11 patients, and to events between 1998 and

2001,

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though a court injunction prevents their names from being revealed to the media. The injunction
was handed down in December last year at the request of an athlete who fears for his reputation
and the continuation of his career.

Off the top of my head, I can think of at least 3 cyclists whom that might be.

Could be explosive if the information comes to see the light of day.

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Demetrius Merisi di Carravallo

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Off the top of my head, I can think of at least 3 cyclists whom that might be.

Could be explosive if the information comes to see the light of day.

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Demetrius Merisi di Carravallo

I know, that's what I'm afraid of. I'll bet whatever you want that Lyne Bessette is clean
though. Bill C

My only surprise is that it says the EPO was being prescribed to the athletes. That seems a little risky. I figured it would just be distributed without doing any paper work.

I read recently that the companies that produce EPO make about 30% more per year than is distributed through known prescriptions. And the remainder? They know and we all know where it goes. The question is, how does it get there?

Edita Rumsas (Rumsiene?) alone can't distribute that much spare EPO.

Who would ever believe that the nice clean Canadian medical system would be used to cheat? (<-

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From: "Demetrius di Carravallo" [email hidden]

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Off the top of my head, I can think of at least 3 cyclists whom

that might

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be.

Could be explosive if the information comes to see the light of

day.

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Demetrius Merisi di Carravallo

I know, that's what I'm afraid of. I'll bet whatever you want that

Lyne

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Bessette is clean though. Bill C

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Demetrius Merisi di Carravallo "TritonRider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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From: "Tom Kunich" [email hidden]

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Who would ever believe that the nice clean Canadian medical system would be used to cheat? (<-

Given human nature it wouldn't surprise me to find out that our Surgeon General was selling crack
for the right price.

When used properly, EPO isn't that dangerous compared to other performance enhancing drugs
(steroids, HGH).

A friend of mine's mother is a nurse and she was very concerned about her pro-racer son taking
drugs. She asked him what was the drug of choice among the abusers. He told her the main cheating
drugs was EPO and she was relieved.

That's part of what makes it so tempting. It works very well and as long as the racer doesn't jack
the hematocrit into Bjarne Riis territory, there isn't much of a risk.

Then again, there are the stories of racers doing sprints up and down the hotel stairs in the middle
of the night to ensure they don't clot in their sleep. That is [censored] up.

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They know and we all know where it goes. The question is, how does it get there?

"football, baseball, hockey, running, all of them. for a chaser they take a shot of roids. I think
UPS is the one doing the deliveries?

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I read recently that the companies that produce EPO make about 30% more per year than is
distributed through known prescriptions. And the remainder? They know and we all know where it
goes. The question is, how does it get there?

Did anyone see the special on 60 minutes back around the holidays?

There's a huge black market in injectable drugs, EPO was named specifically in the report. Easy to
dilute it, and to siphon off huge profits.

There is very little regulation (in the US) over who can be a legal distribution company. There's a
preview/summary of the episode below:

cbsnews.commain533860.shtmlOpen ↗

Demetrius di Carravallo said:

When used properly, EPO isn't that dangerous compared to other performance enhancing drugs
(steroids, HGH).

Explain to me how it's possible for someone to die from one massive dose of steroids. The safety
factor between steroids and EPO is the exact opposite of what you suggest.

--
Scott Johnson "When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the
good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah's word is proven true against them, then we destroy
them utterly." (Koran, 17:16-17)

TritonRider said:

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complaint at the end of the month against a Quebecois doctor accused of inappropriately
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report in Montreal newspaper La Presse.

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doctor by the FQSC in winter 2001 and subsequent investigation.

Any word on which cyclist blew the whistle? This is unfortunate as racers from Quebec have been
regarded as among the best in Canada (which I have always attributed to better organization and
support, from my observations of teams coming to Ontario to compete).

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The full complaint relates to 11 patients, and to events between 1998 and=

2001,

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though a court injunction prevents their names from being revealed to the media. The injunction
was handed down in December last year at the reques=

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an athlete who fears for his reputation and the continuation of his caree=

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The case will be heard February 24-28.

I hope this doesn't get as ugly as I think it might. Kinda brings it all=

home

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doesn't it? Bill C.

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I agree. EPO is much more dangerous if taken in a large quntity. A huge dose of steroids is unlikely
to cause a lot of harm. Might shut down your testies.....but there are drugs to start those again...

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Demetrius di Carravallo said:

When used properly, EPO isn't that dangerous compared to other

performance

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enhancing drugs (steroids, HGH).

Explain to me how it's possible for someone to die from one massive dose

of

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steroids. The safety factor between steroids and EPO is the exact opposite

of

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what you suggest.

--
Scott Johnson "When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have
the good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah's word is proven true against them, then we
destroy them utterly." (Koran, 17:16-17)

On 2/13/03 6:38 AM, in article [email hidden], "Kyle

Legate said:

I was listening to national radio this morning and the announcer let slip that the rider who
complained to the federation was a 'she'. Let the rampant speculation begin...

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Was "she" complaining about the canadian MTB "he-she"? (shemale)

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I was listening to national radio this morning and the announcer let slip that the rider who
complained to the federation was a 'she'. Let the rampant speculation begin...

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That was in the newspaper recently ,they said it was a female cyclist. Howver, I got the impression
she didn't TAKE the drugs, rather she complained to the federation.