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  1. Hi All,

    I know this sort of thing comes up repeatedly, but here goes anyway.

    I am building a bike for my son and I have aquired some wheels which
    have a Shimano freehub. These are aftermarket wheels. The bike has
    Campy 10-speed Mirage/Xenon components. A Wheels Mfg kit is too
    expensive for this bike. What should I do to make this work well?

    I know I could build a regular wheel with a Mirage hub (if I could
    find a suitable rim), or something like that, but these are "boutique"
    wheels and they are the ones I've got for the project, and being a
    funky size (540), they are not going to be swapped unless absolutely
    necessary.

    Suggestions?

    Joseph

  2. Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    I know this sort of thing comes up repeatedly, but here goes anyway.

    I am building a bike for my son and I have aquired some wheels which
    have a Shimano freehub. These are aftermarket wheels. The bike has
    Campy 10-speed Mirage/Xenon components. A Wheels Mfg kit is too
    expensive for this bike. What should I do to make this work well?

    I know I could build a regular wheel with a Mirage hub (if I could
    find a suitable rim), or something like that, but these are "boutique"
    wheels and they are the ones I've got for the project, and being a
    funky size (540), they are not going to be swapped unless absolutely
    necessary.

    Suggestions?

    Shimano 8 speed cassette.
    Shimano rear derailleur (the Campag ought to work).
    Campag 10 speed shifters.
    Will work and shift properly.

    (Look up "Shimergo" on Google for various other combinations )

    - Nigel

    --
    Nigel Cliffe,
    Webmaster at http://www.2mm.org.uk/

  3. Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    I know this sort of thing comes up repeatedly, but here goes anyway.

    I am building a bike for my son and I have aquired some wheels which
    have a Shimano freehub. These are aftermarket wheels. The bike has
    Campy 10-speed Mirage/Xenon components. A Wheels Mfg kit is too
    expensive for this bike. What should I do to make this work well?

    I know I could build a regular wheel with a Mirage hub (if I could
    find a suitable rim), or something like that, but these are "boutique"
    wheels and they are the ones I've got for the project, and being a
    funky size (540), they are not going to be swapped unless absolutely
    necessary.

    Suggestions?

    Shimano 8 speed cassette.
    Shimano rear derailleur (the Campag ought to work).
    Campag 10 speed shifters.
    Will work and shift properly.

    (Look up "Shimergo" on Google for various other combinations )

    - Nigel

    --
    Nigel Cliffe,
    Webmaster at http://www.2mm.org.uk/

  4. Nigel Cliffe said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    Quoted message said:

    I know this sort of thing comes up repeatedly, but here goes anyway.

    Quoted message said:

    I am building a bike for my son and I have aquired some wheels which
    have a Shimano freehub. These are aftermarket wheels. The bike has
    Campy 10-speed Mirage/Xenon components. A Wheels Mfg kit is too
    expensive for this bike. What should I do to make this work well?

    Quoted message said:

    I know I could build a regular wheel with a Mirage hub (if I could
    find a suitable rim), or something like that, but these are "boutique"
    wheels and they are the ones I've got for the project, and being a
    funky size (540), they are not going to be swapped unless absolutely
    necessary.

    Quoted message said:

    Suggestions?

    Shimano 8 speed cassette.
    Shimano rear derailleur (the Campag ought to work).
    Campag 10 speed shifters.
    Will work and shift properly.

    (Look up "Shimergo" on Google for various other combinations )

    - Nigel

    Thanks for the Shimergo tip.

    This seems to indicate that it'll work fine:

    http://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=3946#Campag

    And that is good because 8 speed cassettes are nice and cheap.

    Joseph

  5. Nigel Cliffe said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    Quoted message said:

    I know this sort of thing comes up repeatedly, but here goes anyway.

    Quoted message said:

    I am building a bike for my son and I have aquired some wheels which
    have a Shimano freehub. These are aftermarket wheels. The bike has
    Campy 10-speed Mirage/Xenon components. A Wheels Mfg kit is too
    expensive for this bike. What should I do to make this work well?

    Quoted message said:

    I know I could build a regular wheel with a Mirage hub (if I could
    find a suitable rim), or something like that, but these are "boutique"
    wheels and they are the ones I've got for the project, and being a
    funky size (540), they are not going to be swapped unless absolutely
    necessary.

    Quoted message said:

    Suggestions?

    Shimano 8 speed cassette.
    Shimano rear derailleur (the Campag ought to work).
    Campag 10 speed shifters.
    Will work and shift properly.

    (Look up "Shimergo" on Google for various other combinations )

    - Nigel

    Thanks for the Shimergo tip.

    This seems to indicate that it'll work fine:

    http://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=3946#Campag

    And that is good because 8 speed cassettes are nice and cheap.

    Joseph

  6. Quoted message said:
    Nigel Cliffe said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    Quoted message said:

    I know this sort of thing comes up repeatedly, but here goes anyway.

    Quoted message said:

    I am building a bike for my son and I have aquired some wheels which
    have a Shimano freehub. These are aftermarket wheels. The bike has
    Campy 10-speed Mirage/Xenon components. A Wheels Mfg kit is too
    expensive for this bike. What should I do to make this work well?

    Quoted message said:

    I know I could build a regular wheel with a Mirage hub (if I could
    find a suitable rim), or something like that, but these are
    "boutique" wheels and they are the ones I've got for the project,
    and being a funky size (540), they are not going to be swapped
    unless absolutely necessary.

    Quoted message said:

    Suggestions?

    Shimano 8 speed cassette.
    Shimano rear derailleur (the Campag ought to work).

    Correction below, don't think Campag mech works.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Campag 10 speed shifters.
    Will work and shift properly.

    (Look up "Shimergo" on Google for various other combinations )

    - Nigel

    Thanks for the Shimergo tip.

    This seems to indicate that it'll work fine:

    http://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=3946#Campag

    And that is good because 8 speed cassettes are nice and cheap.

    I've just re-read the tables; needs the Shimano rear mechanism (also cheap)
    as well as the Shimano 8 cassette, combined with the Campagnolo 10 ergo
    shifter. The Campag 10 rear mechanism WON'T move the correct distances.

    Your alternative with a Campag rear mechanism is the Shiftmate ($35) and a
    Shimano 9 cassette.

    ( My planned tourer upgrade from 7 speed screw-on to cassette hubs has a set
    of 2006 Ergo shifters sitting waiting for Shimano 8 speed bits to be bought
    and assembled. )

    - Nigel

    --
    Nigel Cliffe,
    Webmaster at http://www.2mm.org.uk/

  7. Quoted message said:
    Nigel Cliffe said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    Quoted message said:

    I know this sort of thing comes up repeatedly, but here goes anyway.

    Quoted message said:

    I am building a bike for my son and I have aquired some wheels which
    have a Shimano freehub. These are aftermarket wheels. The bike has
    Campy 10-speed Mirage/Xenon components. A Wheels Mfg kit is too
    expensive for this bike. What should I do to make this work well?

    Quoted message said:

    I know I could build a regular wheel with a Mirage hub (if I could
    find a suitable rim), or something like that, but these are
    "boutique" wheels and they are the ones I've got for the project,
    and being a funky size (540), they are not going to be swapped
    unless absolutely necessary.

    Quoted message said:

    Suggestions?

    Shimano 8 speed cassette.
    Shimano rear derailleur (the Campag ought to work).

    Correction below, don't think Campag mech works.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Campag 10 speed shifters.
    Will work and shift properly.

    (Look up "Shimergo" on Google for various other combinations )

    - Nigel

    Thanks for the Shimergo tip.

    This seems to indicate that it'll work fine:

    http://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=3946#Campag

    And that is good because 8 speed cassettes are nice and cheap.

    I've just re-read the tables; needs the Shimano rear mechanism (also cheap)
    as well as the Shimano 8 cassette, combined with the Campagnolo 10 ergo
    shifter. The Campag 10 rear mechanism WON'T move the correct distances.

    Your alternative with a Campag rear mechanism is the Shiftmate ($35) and a
    Shimano 9 cassette.

    ( My planned tourer upgrade from 7 speed screw-on to cassette hubs has a set
    of 2006 Ergo shifters sitting waiting for Shimano 8 speed bits to be bought
    and assembled. )

    - Nigel

    --
    Nigel Cliffe,
    Webmaster at http://www.2mm.org.uk/

  8. email hidden said:

    Hi All,

    I know this sort of thing comes up repeatedly, but here goes anyway.

    I am building a bike for my son and I have aquired some wheels which
    have a Shimano freehub. These are aftermarket wheels. The bike has
    Campy 10-speed Mirage/Xenon components. A Wheels Mfg kit is too
    expensive for this bike. What should I do to make this work well?

    I know I could build a regular wheel with a Mirage hub (if I could
    find a suitable rim), or something like that, but these are "boutique"
    wheels and they are the ones I've got for the project, and being a
    funky size (540), they are not going to be swapped unless absolutely
    necessary.

    Suggestions?

    Joseph

    Use a Shimano or SRAM 9 or 10 speed cassette. If you use a 9, adjust
    the low limit screw on the RD to lock out the last click. S9 spacing
    is 0.05mm wider than C10, and S10 is 0.05mm narrower - entirely within
    the system's tolerances. I posted in another thread last night that my
    SRAM PG950 12-25 cassette shifts better on an otherwise Veloce 10s
    drivetrain than the American Classic Conversion Cassette I tried.

    Seriously, it works, just try it!

  9. email hidden said:

    Hi All,

    I know this sort of thing comes up repeatedly, but here goes anyway.

    I am building a bike for my son and I have aquired some wheels which
    have a Shimano freehub. These are aftermarket wheels. The bike has
    Campy 10-speed Mirage/Xenon components. A Wheels Mfg kit is too
    expensive for this bike. What should I do to make this work well?

    I know I could build a regular wheel with a Mirage hub (if I could
    find a suitable rim), or something like that, but these are "boutique"
    wheels and they are the ones I've got for the project, and being a
    funky size (540), they are not going to be swapped unless absolutely
    necessary.

    Suggestions?

    Joseph

    Use a Shimano or SRAM 9 or 10 speed cassette. If you use a 9, adjust
    the low limit screw on the RD to lock out the last click. S9 spacing
    is 0.05mm wider than C10, and S10 is 0.05mm narrower - entirely within
    the system's tolerances. I posted in another thread last night that my
    SRAM PG950 12-25 cassette shifts better on an otherwise Veloce 10s
    drivetrain than the American Classic Conversion Cassette I tried.

    Seriously, it works, just try it!

  10. Nigel Cliffe said:
    Quoted message said:
    Nigel Cliffe said:

    [email hidden] wrote:
    > Hi All,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I know this sort of thing comes up repeatedly, but here goes anyway.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I am building a bike for my son and I have aquired some wheels which
    > have a Shimano freehub. These are aftermarket wheels. The bike has
    > Campy 10-speed Mirage/Xenon components. A Wheels Mfg kit is too
    > expensive for this bike. What should I do to make this work well?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I know I could build a regular wheel with a Mirage hub (if I could
    > find a suitable rim), or something like that, but these are
    > "boutique" wheels and they are the ones I've got for the project,
    > and being a funky size (540), they are not going to be swapped
    > unless absolutely necessary.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Suggestions?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Shimano 8 speed cassette.
    Shimano rear derailleur (the Campag ought to work).

    Correction below, don't think Campag mech works.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Campag 10 speed shifters.
    Will work and shift properly.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (Look up "Shimergo" on Google for various other combinations )

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    - Nigel

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the Shimergo tip.

    Quoted message said:

    This seems to indicate that it'll work fine:

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=3946#Campag

    Quoted message said:

    And that is good because 8 speed cassettes are nice and cheap.

    I've just re-read the tables; needs the Shimano rear mechanism (also cheap)
    as well as the Shimano 8 cassette, combined with the Campagnolo 10 ergo
    shifter. The Campag 10 rear mechanism WON'T move the correct distances.

    Your alternative with a Campag rear mechanism is the Shiftmate ($35) and a
    Shimano 9 cassette.

    ( My planned tourer upgrade from 7 speed screw-on to cassette hubs has a set
    of 2006 Ergo shifters sitting waiting for Shimano 8 speed bits to be bought
    and assembled. )

    - Nigel

    --
    Nigel Cliffe,
    Webmaster athttp://www.2mm.org.uk/

    I see I misread the table. I suppose I'll just try a 9-speed I have
    lying around and if that doesn't work, a Shiftmate.

    Joseph

  11. Nigel Cliffe said:
    Quoted message said:
    Nigel Cliffe said:

    [email hidden] wrote:
    > Hi All,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I know this sort of thing comes up repeatedly, but here goes anyway.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I am building a bike for my son and I have aquired some wheels which
    > have a Shimano freehub. These are aftermarket wheels. The bike has
    > Campy 10-speed Mirage/Xenon components. A Wheels Mfg kit is too
    > expensive for this bike. What should I do to make this work well?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I know I could build a regular wheel with a Mirage hub (if I could
    > find a suitable rim), or something like that, but these are
    > "boutique" wheels and they are the ones I've got for the project,
    > and being a funky size (540), they are not going to be swapped
    > unless absolutely necessary.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Suggestions?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Shimano 8 speed cassette.
    Shimano rear derailleur (the Campag ought to work).

    Correction below, don't think Campag mech works.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Campag 10 speed shifters.
    Will work and shift properly.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (Look up "Shimergo" on Google for various other combinations )

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    - Nigel

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the Shimergo tip.

    Quoted message said:

    This seems to indicate that it'll work fine:

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=3946#Campag

    Quoted message said:

    And that is good because 8 speed cassettes are nice and cheap.

    I've just re-read the tables; needs the Shimano rear mechanism (also cheap)
    as well as the Shimano 8 cassette, combined with the Campagnolo 10 ergo
    shifter. The Campag 10 rear mechanism WON'T move the correct distances.

    Your alternative with a Campag rear mechanism is the Shiftmate ($35) and a
    Shimano 9 cassette.

    ( My planned tourer upgrade from 7 speed screw-on to cassette hubs has a set
    of 2006 Ergo shifters sitting waiting for Shimano 8 speed bits to be bought
    and assembled. )

    - Nigel

    --
    Nigel Cliffe,
    Webmaster athttp://www.2mm.org.uk/

    I see I misread the table. I suppose I'll just try a 9-speed I have
    lying around and if that doesn't work, a Shiftmate.

    Joseph

  12. I concur. I posted in another similar thread; I've run Shimano 9 cassettes
    with 9-speed Campy Shifters and mech. for several cassettes. Shifts just as
    well as a full Campy setup.

    -pete

    "Hank Wirtz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    email hidden said:

    Hi All,

    I know this sort of thing comes up repeatedly, but here goes anyway.

    I am building a bike for my son and I have aquired some wheels which
    have a Shimano freehub. These are aftermarket wheels. The bike has
    Campy 10-speed Mirage/Xenon components. A Wheels Mfg kit is too
    expensive for this bike. What should I do to make this work well?

    I know I could build a regular wheel with a Mirage hub (if I could
    find a suitable rim), or something like that, but these are "boutique"
    wheels and they are the ones I've got for the project, and being a
    funky size (540), they are not going to be swapped unless absolutely
    necessary.

    Suggestions?

    Joseph

    Use a Shimano or SRAM 9 or 10 speed cassette. If you use a 9, adjust
    the low limit screw on the RD to lock out the last click. S9 spacing
    is 0.05mm wider than C10, and S10 is 0.05mm narrower - entirely within
    the system's tolerances. I posted in another thread last night that my
    SRAM PG950 12-25 cassette shifts better on an otherwise Veloce 10s
    drivetrain than the American Classic Conversion Cassette I tried.

    Seriously, it works, just try it!

  13. I concur. I posted in another similar thread; I've run Shimano 9 cassettes
    with 9-speed Campy Shifters and mech. for several cassettes. Shifts just as
    well as a full Campy setup.

    -pete

    "Hank Wirtz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    email hidden said:

    Hi All,

    I know this sort of thing comes up repeatedly, but here goes anyway.

    I am building a bike for my son and I have aquired some wheels which
    have a Shimano freehub. These are aftermarket wheels. The bike has
    Campy 10-speed Mirage/Xenon components. A Wheels Mfg kit is too
    expensive for this bike. What should I do to make this work well?

    I know I could build a regular wheel with a Mirage hub (if I could
    find a suitable rim), or something like that, but these are "boutique"
    wheels and they are the ones I've got for the project, and being a
    funky size (540), they are not going to be swapped unless absolutely
    necessary.

    Suggestions?

    Joseph

    Use a Shimano or SRAM 9 or 10 speed cassette. If you use a 9, adjust
    the low limit screw on the RD to lock out the last click. S9 spacing
    is 0.05mm wider than C10, and S10 is 0.05mm narrower - entirely within
    the system's tolerances. I posted in another thread last night that my
    SRAM PG950 12-25 cassette shifts better on an otherwise Veloce 10s
    drivetrain than the American Classic Conversion Cassette I tried.

    Seriously, it works, just try it!

  14. email hidden said:

    Hi All,

    I know this sort of thing comes up repeatedly, but here goes anyway.

    I am building a bike for my son and I have aquired some wheels which
    have a Shimano freehub. These are aftermarket wheels. The bike has
    Campy 10-speed Mirage/Xenon components. A Wheels Mfg kit is too
    expensive for this bike. What should I do to make this work well?

    I know I could build a regular wheel with a Mirage hub (if I could
    find a suitable rim), or something like that, but these are "boutique"
    wheels and they are the ones I've got for the project, and being a
    funky size (540), they are not going to be swapped unless absolutely
    necessary.

    Suggestions?

    Joseph

    you can always go to ebay for the used parts that will fix it all.
    trust me you could get those parts for under $50
    regards,
    carlos
    www.bikingthings.com
    Get Faster, Enjoy Cycling, Get Fit, Live Better.

  15. email hidden said:

    Hi All,

    I know this sort of thing comes up repeatedly, but here goes anyway.

    I am building a bike for my son and I have aquired some wheels which
    have a Shimano freehub. These are aftermarket wheels. The bike has
    Campy 10-speed Mirage/Xenon components. A Wheels Mfg kit is too
    expensive for this bike. What should I do to make this work well?

    I know I could build a regular wheel with a Mirage hub (if I could
    find a suitable rim), or something like that, but these are "boutique"
    wheels and they are the ones I've got for the project, and being a
    funky size (540), they are not going to be swapped unless absolutely
    necessary.

    Suggestions?

    Joseph

    you can always go to ebay for the used parts that will fix it all.
    trust me you could get those parts for under $50
    regards,
    carlos
    www.bikingthings.com
    Get Faster, Enjoy Cycling, Get Fit, Live Better.

  16. email hidden said:

    Hi All,

    I know this sort of thing comes up repeatedly, but here goes anyway.

    I am building a bike for my son and I have aquired some wheels which
    have a Shimano freehub. These are aftermarket wheels. The bike has
    Campy 10-speed Mirage/Xenon components. A Wheels Mfg kit is too
    expensive for this bike. What should I do to make this work well?

    I know I could build a regular wheel with a Mirage hub (if I could
    find a suitable rim), or something like that, but these are "boutique"
    wheels and they are the ones I've got for the project, and being a
    funky size (540), they are not going to be swapped unless absolutely
    necessary.

    Suggestions?

    Shimano 9 cassette, shimano mechs, hubbub cable routing.

    Works a treat.

  17. Quoted message said:

    On Nov 8, 10:35 pm, "[email hidden]"

    Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    Quoted message said:

    I know this sort of thing comes up repeatedly, but here goes anyway.

    Quoted message said:

    I am building a bike for my son and I have aquired some wheels which
    have a Shimano freehub. These are aftermarket wheels. The bike has
    Campy 10-speed Mirage/Xenon components. A Wheels Mfg kit is too
    expensive for this bike. What should I do to make this work well?

    Quoted message said:

    I know I could build a regular wheel with a Mirage hub (if I could
    find a suitable rim), or something like that, but these are "boutique"
    wheels and they are the ones I've got for the project, and being a
    funky size (540), they are not going to be swapped unless absolutely
    necessary.

    Quoted message said:

    Suggestions?

    Shimano 9 cassette, shimano mechs, hubbub cable routing.

    Works a treat.

    Or use the Campy RD he already has and normal cable routing. That
    shifts a S9 cassette just dandy.

  18. Quoted message said:

    On Nov 8, 10:35 pm, "[email hidden]"

    Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    Quoted message said:

    I know this sort of thing comes up repeatedly, but here goes anyway.

    Quoted message said:

    I am building a bike for my son and I have aquired some wheels which
    have a Shimano freehub. These are aftermarket wheels. The bike has
    Campy 10-speed Mirage/Xenon components. A Wheels Mfg kit is too
    expensive for this bike. What should I do to make this work well?

    Quoted message said:

    I know I could build a regular wheel with a Mirage hub (if I could
    find a suitable rim), or something like that, but these are "boutique"
    wheels and they are the ones I've got for the project, and being a
    funky size (540), they are not going to be swapped unless absolutely
    necessary.

    Quoted message said:

    Suggestions?

    Shimano 9 cassette, shimano mechs, hubbub cable routing.

    Works a treat.

    Or use the Campy RD he already has and normal cable routing. That
    shifts a S9 cassette just dandy.

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