cleaning gore-tex

Gary said:

I've read all the articles about Gore-tex and DWR and how to wash and treat
the garment, etc. But the commercial products like NikWax and TX-Direct are
so expensive. I've seen recipes on this NG for everything from energy bars
to hydration drinks- does anyone have a recipe for a home-made Gore-Tex
washing and/or treatment solution?

goretex is the most useless "waterproofing" ever invented. i
have never, ever used a goretex garment that did not leak, which
is why i have never bought one. i'll take a *real* waterproof
garment over goretex any time.

when you live in an area with 180+ inches of rain a year, much of
it horizontal, you don't want goretex. you want helly-hansens or
something similar, or for cycling, a burley rainsuit.

Gary said:

I've read all the articles about Gore-tex and DWR and how to wash and treat
the garment, etc. But the commercial products like NikWax and TX-Direct are
so expensive. I've seen recipes on this NG for everything from energy bars
to hydration drinks- does anyone have a recipe for a home-made Gore-Tex
washing and/or treatment solution?

goretex is the most useless "waterproofing" ever invented. i
have never, ever used a goretex garment that did not leak, which
is why i have never bought one. i'll take a *real* waterproof
garment over goretex any time.

when you live in an area with 180+ inches of rain a year, much of
it horizontal, you don't want goretex. you want helly-hansens or
something similar, or for cycling, a burley rainsuit.

Gary said:

I've read all the articles about Gore-tex and DWR and how to wash and treat
the garment, etc. But the commercial products like NikWax and TX-Direct are
so expensive. I've seen recipes on this NG for everything from energy bars
to hydration drinks- does anyone have a recipe for a home-made Gore-Tex
washing and/or treatment solution?

goretex is the most useless "waterproofing" ever invented. i
have never, ever used a goretex garment that did not leak, which
is why i have never bought one. i'll take a *real* waterproof
garment over goretex any time.

when you live in an area with 180+ inches of rain a year, much of
it horizontal, you don't want goretex. you want helly-hansens or
something similar, or for cycling, a burley rainsuit.

"Gary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I've read all the articles about Gore-tex and DWR and how to wash and
treat the garment, etc. But the commercial products like NikWax and
TX-Direct are so expensive. I've seen recipes on this NG for everything
from energy bars to hydration drinks- does anyone have a recipe for a
home-made Gore-Tex washing and/or treatment solution?

Machine wash with powdered detergent, a mild one if you like. On gentle
cycle if you like. Just don't use liquid detergent. It can clog the pores.
It's no big deal.

--
JF

"A really great man is known by three signs,--generosity in the design,
humanity in the execution, and moderation in success."
- Karl Otto von Schonhausen Bismarck

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Quoted message said:

I've read all the articles about Gore-tex and DWR and how to wash and
treat the garment, etc. But the commercial products like NikWax and
TX-Direct are so expensive. I've seen recipes on this NG for everything
from energy bars to hydration drinks- does anyone have a recipe for a
home-made Gore-Tex washing and/or treatment solution?

Machine wash with powdered detergent, a mild one if you like. On gentle
cycle if you like. Just don't use liquid detergent. It can clog the pores.
It's no big deal.

--
JF

"A really great man is known by three signs,--generosity in the design,
humanity in the execution, and moderation in success."
- Karl Otto von Schonhausen Bismarck

"Gary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I've read all the articles about Gore-tex and DWR and how to wash and
treat the garment, etc. But the commercial products like NikWax and
TX-Direct are so expensive. I've seen recipes on this NG for everything
from energy bars to hydration drinks- does anyone have a recipe for a
home-made Gore-Tex washing and/or treatment solution?

Machine wash with powdered detergent, a mild one if you like. On gentle
cycle if you like. Just don't use liquid detergent. It can clog the pores.
It's no big deal.

--
JF

"A really great man is known by three signs,--generosity in the design,
humanity in the execution, and moderation in success."
- Karl Otto von Schonhausen Bismarck

Gary said:

I've read all the articles about Gore-tex and DWR and how to wash and treat
the garment, etc. But the commercial products like NikWax and TX-Direct are
so expensive. I've seen recipes on this NG for everything from energy bars
to hydration drinks- does anyone have a recipe for a home-made Gore-Tex
washing and/or treatment solution?

i agree, gore tex is not the best material. the best thing when
waterproof is required is nylon. it is the only tight enough fiber
that will prevent water from coming in. where i live, we have had 35
days with 30 days of rain. solution: nylon jackets
carlos
www.bikingthings.com

Gary said:

I've read all the articles about Gore-tex and DWR and how to wash and treat
the garment, etc. But the commercial products like NikWax and TX-Direct are
so expensive. I've seen recipes on this NG for everything from energy bars
to hydration drinks- does anyone have a recipe for a home-made Gore-Tex
washing and/or treatment solution?

i agree, gore tex is not the best material. the best thing when
waterproof is required is nylon. it is the only tight enough fiber
that will prevent water from coming in. where i live, we have had 35
days with 30 days of rain. solution: nylon jackets
carlos
www.bikingthings.com

Gary said:

I've read all the articles about Gore-tex and DWR and how to wash and treat
the garment, etc. But the commercial products like NikWax and TX-Direct are
so expensive. I've seen recipes on this NG for everything from energy bars
to hydration drinks- does anyone have a recipe for a home-made Gore-Tex
washing and/or treatment solution?

i agree, gore tex is not the best material. the best thing when
waterproof is required is nylon. it is the only tight enough fiber
that will prevent water from coming in. where i live, we have had 35
days with 30 days of rain. solution: nylon jackets
carlos
www.bikingthings.com

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I've read all the articles about Gore-tex and DWR and how to wash and
treat the garment, etc. But the commercial products like NikWax and
TX-Direct are so expensive. I've seen recipes on this NG for everything
from energy bars to hydration drinks- does anyone have a recipe for a
home-made Gore-Tex washing and/or treatment solution?

I use Woolite. It doesn't have whiteners or brighteners or bleach or
fragrances, etc.

Pat in TX

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I've read all the articles about Gore-tex and DWR and how to wash and
treat the garment, etc. But the commercial products like NikWax and
TX-Direct are so expensive. I've seen recipes on this NG for everything
from energy bars to hydration drinks- does anyone have a recipe for a
home-made Gore-Tex washing and/or treatment solution?

I use Woolite. It doesn't have whiteners or brighteners or bleach or
fragrances, etc.

Pat in TX

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I've read all the articles about Gore-tex and DWR and how to wash and
treat the garment, etc. But the commercial products like NikWax and
TX-Direct are so expensive. I've seen recipes on this NG for everything
from energy bars to hydration drinks- does anyone have a recipe for a
home-made Gore-Tex washing and/or treatment solution?

I use Woolite. It doesn't have whiteners or brighteners or bleach or
fragrances, etc.

Pat in TX

On Nov 9, 10:55 am, [email hidden] wrote:

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www.bikingthings.com

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From that site:

"You might not ride like a Pro; but at least you will look like one."

Geez, Louise - it's Wannabe Heaven! 🙁

Just the place to get those repulsive wearable billboards
comparatively cheap, so you can look like a fool without going broke.

On Nov 9, 10:55 am, [email hidden] wrote:

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Quoted message said:

www.bikingthings.com

Quoted message said:

From that site:

"You might not ride like a Pro; but at least you will look like one."

Geez, Louise - it's Wannabe Heaven! 🙁

Just the place to get those repulsive wearable billboards
comparatively cheap, so you can look like a fool without going broke.

On Nov 9, 10:55 am, [email hidden] wrote:

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Quoted message said:

www.bikingthings.com

Quoted message said:

From that site:

"You might not ride like a Pro; but at least you will look like one."

Geez, Louise - it's Wannabe Heaven! 🙁

Just the place to get those repulsive wearable billboards
comparatively cheap, so you can look like a fool without going broke.

"Gary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I've read all the articles about Gore-tex and DWR and how to wash and
treat the garment, etc. But the commercial products like NikWax and
TX-Direct are so expensive. I've seen recipes on this NG for everything
from energy bars to hydration drinks- does anyone have a recipe for a
home-made Gore-Tex washing and/or treatment solution?

I'm afraid I can't join the bash-GTX parade. Maybe I am doing something
wrong?

I have been quite satisfied wearing GTX for years, year-round bike commute
in Chicago. I did have a pair of GTX rain pants and a GTX jacket that, after
years of wear, were no longer waterproof. So I bought a new GTX jacket and
rain pants, which I am told are new! improved! GTX. No complaints so far
after one year, and I have been in some sideways rainstorms.

I don't understand the American obsession with laundering things. GTX is
outer wear. The only GTX thing I have ever run through the clothes washer is
my GTX gaiters, which I did mainly out of curiosity. I usually just wipe the
winter road salt off with a wet cloth.

I suspect people tend to wreck their GTX stuff by laundering in washing
machines with whatever chemicals, and then using clothes dryers on the
normal (HOT) setting.

GTX is a high-tech composite (layered) material. If one launders it like a
cotton pillow case, it is ruined.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goretex

GTX J.

"Gary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I've read all the articles about Gore-tex and DWR and how to wash and
treat the garment, etc. But the commercial products like NikWax and
TX-Direct are so expensive. I've seen recipes on this NG for everything
from energy bars to hydration drinks- does anyone have a recipe for a
home-made Gore-Tex washing and/or treatment solution?

I'm afraid I can't join the bash-GTX parade. Maybe I am doing something
wrong?

I have been quite satisfied wearing GTX for years, year-round bike commute
in Chicago. I did have a pair of GTX rain pants and a GTX jacket that, after
years of wear, were no longer waterproof. So I bought a new GTX jacket and
rain pants, which I am told are new! improved! GTX. No complaints so far
after one year, and I have been in some sideways rainstorms.

I don't understand the American obsession with laundering things. GTX is
outer wear. The only GTX thing I have ever run through the clothes washer is
my GTX gaiters, which I did mainly out of curiosity. I usually just wipe the
winter road salt off with a wet cloth.

I suspect people tend to wreck their GTX stuff by laundering in washing
machines with whatever chemicals, and then using clothes dryers on the
normal (HOT) setting.

GTX is a high-tech composite (layered) material. If one launders it like a
cotton pillow case, it is ruined.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goretex

GTX J.

"Gary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I've read all the articles about Gore-tex and DWR and how to wash and
treat the garment, etc. But the commercial products like NikWax and
TX-Direct are so expensive. I've seen recipes on this NG for everything
from energy bars to hydration drinks- does anyone have a recipe for a
home-made Gore-Tex washing and/or treatment solution?

I'm afraid I can't join the bash-GTX parade. Maybe I am doing something
wrong?

I have been quite satisfied wearing GTX for years, year-round bike commute
in Chicago. I did have a pair of GTX rain pants and a GTX jacket that, after
years of wear, were no longer waterproof. So I bought a new GTX jacket and
rain pants, which I am told are new! improved! GTX. No complaints so far
after one year, and I have been in some sideways rainstorms.

I don't understand the American obsession with laundering things. GTX is
outer wear. The only GTX thing I have ever run through the clothes washer is
my GTX gaiters, which I did mainly out of curiosity. I usually just wipe the
winter road salt off with a wet cloth.

I suspect people tend to wreck their GTX stuff by laundering in washing
machines with whatever chemicals, and then using clothes dryers on the
normal (HOT) setting.

GTX is a high-tech composite (layered) material. If one launders it like a
cotton pillow case, it is ruined.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goretex

GTX J.

Thanks for the advice, but does anyone know how to fabricate some TX-Direct,
or something that will revive the DWR finish of the fabric so that water
beads up? I'm sure the commercial stuff that they sell for ten dollars costs
about fifty cents to make. Any chemists out there?

"Gary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I've read all the articles about Gore-tex and DWR and how to wash and
treat the garment, etc. But the commercial products like NikWax and
TX-Direct are so expensive. I've seen recipes on this NG for everything
from energy bars to hydration drinks- does anyone have a recipe for a
home-made Gore-Tex washing and/or treatment solution?