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  1. I have just got a bike with one of these Shimano granny gears
    considerably larger than the other gears. Its a roughy I want to use
    to go to the library and shopping etc

    The deraillier is a cheap one but seems to be designed for these gears
    (it says so on the arm!). but it doesn't have a screw adjusting its
    distance from the gear teeth and the inner most cog touches the
    largest cog. (I don't mean the two screws which act to limit the
    derailleur travel from high to low gear I mean the one which restricts
    the ammount the small cogs can be pulled toward the sprockets by
    tension in the chain)

    I suspect that the chain is too short - perhaps these larger gears and
    deraillers have been added but the original chain left on. Does this
    sound right to you?

    I have a new chain to fit and will follow the Richards' advice on the
    length of the chain but I wonder if anyone has any other advice.

    Regards
    Harold

    Timendi causa est nescire

  2. Harry 'Snapper' Organ said:

    I have just got a bike with one of these Shimano granny gears
    considerably larger than the other gears. Its a roughy I want
    to use to go to the library and shopping etc

    The deraillier is a cheap one but seems to be designed for
    these gears (it says so on the arm!). but it doesn't have a
    screw adjusting its distance from the gear teeth and the inner
    most cog touches the largest cog. (I don't mean the two screws
    which act to limit the derailleur travel from high to low gear
    I mean the one which restricts the ammount the small cogs can
    be pulled toward the sprockets by tension in the chain)

    I suspect that the chain is too short - perhaps these larger
    gears and deraillers have been added but the original chain
    left on. Does this sound right to you?

    I have a new chain to fit and will follow the Richards' advice
    on the length of the chain but I wonder if anyone has any
    other advice.

    Two reputable articles addressing this issue:

    http://sheldonbrown.com/derailer-adjustment.html#chain

    http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=26

    John

  3. If the chain is long enough to allow large chainring and large cog at the
    rear then it's not too short.

    The problem you describe will usually be made worse by lengthening the
    chain, as the pivot point for the derailleur cage is usually below the upper
    jockey wheel.

    The Park web site has a good article on chain length:
    http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=26.

    Nick

    "Harry 'Snapper' Organ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have just got a bike with one of these Shimano granny gears
    considerably larger than the other gears. Its a roughy I want to use
    to go to the library and shopping etc

    The deraillier is a cheap one but seems to be designed for these gears
    (it says so on the arm!). but it doesn't have a screw adjusting its
    distance from the gear teeth and the inner most cog touches the
    largest cog. (I don't mean the two screws which act to limit the
    derailleur travel from high to low gear I mean the one which restricts
    the ammount the small cogs can be pulled toward the sprockets by
    tension in the chain)

    I suspect that the chain is too short - perhaps these larger gears and
    deraillers have been added but the original chain left on. Does this
    sound right to you?

    I have a new chain to fit and will follow the Richards' advice on the
    length of the chain but I wonder if anyone has any other advice.

  4. NickP said:

    If the chain is long enough to allow large chainring and large cog at
    the rear then it's not too short.

    The problem you describe will usually be made worse by lengthening the
    chain, as the pivot point for the derailleur cage is usually below the
    upper jockey wheel.

    The Park web site has a good article on chain length:
    http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=26.

    Nick

    "Harry 'Snapper' Organ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have just got a bike with one of these Shimano granny gears
    considerably larger than the other gears. Its a roughy I want to use
    to go to the library and shopping etc

    The deraillier is a cheap one but seems to be designed for these gears
    (it says so on the arm!). but it doesn't have a screw adjusting its
    distance from the gear teeth and the inner most cog touches the
    largest cog. (I don't mean the two screws which act to limit the
    derailleur travel from high to low gear I mean the one which restricts
    the ammount the small cogs can be pulled toward the sprockets by
    tension in the chain)

    I suspect that the chain is too short - perhaps these larger gears and
    deraillers have been added but the original chain left on. Does this
    sound right to you?

    I have a new chain to fit and will follow the Richards' advice on the
    length of the chain but I wonder if anyone has any other advice.


    --
    Bean

    "I've got a bike
    You can ride it if you like
    It's got a basket
    A bell that rings
    And things to make it look good
    I'd give it to you if I could
    But I borrowed it" Pink Floyd

    Remove "yourfinger" before replying

  5. Harry 'Snapper' Organ said:

    chain length suff <snipped>

    A good rule of thumb is that when the chain is on the big chain ring and
    largest sprocket (i.e. full stretch - please correct me if that's the
    wrong gear combo) the jockey wheels (pulleys) should be directly one on
    top of the other. If the tension pulley (bottom jockey wheel) is too far
    forward then the chain is too short.
    --
    Bean
    Remove "yourfinger" before replying

  6. Ooops! Apologies... brain too short!

    --
    Bean

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  7. On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:22:47 +1000, Bean Long
    <[email hidden]> wrote in aus.bicycle:

    Quoted message said:
    Harry 'Snapper' Organ said:

    chain length suff <snipped>

    A good rule of thumb is that when the chain is on the big chain ring and
    largest sprocket (i.e. full stretch - please correct me if that's the
    wrong gear combo) the jockey wheels (pulleys) should be directly one on
    top of the other. If the tension pulley (bottom jockey wheel) is too far
    forward then the chain is too short.

    Yes that is the way I have always understood it to be done

    Regards
    Harold

    Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum - Lucretius

  8. On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:22:47 +1000, Bean Long
    <[email hidden]> wrote in aus.bicycle:

    Quoted message said:
    Harry 'Snapper' Organ said:

    chain length suff <snipped>

    A good rule of thumb is that when the chain is on the big chain ring and
    largest sprocket (i.e. full stretch - please correct me if that's the
    wrong gear combo) the jockey wheels (pulleys) should be directly one on
    top of the other. If the tension pulley (bottom jockey wheel) is too far
    forward then the chain is too short.

    Yes that is the way I have always understood it to be done

    Regards
    Harold

    Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum - Lucretius

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