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Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:
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better heat dissipation, more comfort, and improved power
transmission.It's a no-brainer!
Next up--cleat hammers!
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Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiffGary Jacobson
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Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiffYup, Duegi. They were very "in".
Mark J.
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Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiffThere were a number of wood-soled shoes in the mid-70s, including... darn.
Having a brain malfunction and can't remember the name of the shoes I wore
back then. But they were wood-soled and not Duegis.--Mike--
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
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Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiffGary Jacobson
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"Gary Jacobson" wrote: Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper
leather shoe with a full wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
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"Gary Jacobson" wrote: Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper
leather shoe with a full wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
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If you want a bike that has high compliance and is stiff, use a wood-leather
composite.The leather damps the road buzz coming up through the stiff wooden
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"Gary Jacobson" wrote: Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper
leather shoe with a full wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
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If you want a bike that has high compliance and is stiff, use a wood-leather
composite.The leather damps the road buzz coming up through the stiff wooden
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Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiffThere were a number of wood-soled shoes in the mid-70s, including... darn.
Having a brain malfunction and can't remember the name of the shoes I wore
back then. But they were wood-soled and not Duegis.--Mike--
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
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Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiffGary Jacobson
Rosendale, NYWe used to use Detto Pietro shoes in the sixties in New York. We had to nail
the aluminum cleats in place. Anyone remember them as well??Bruce
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Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiffThere were a number of wood-soled shoes in the mid-70s, including... darn.
Having a brain malfunction and can't remember the name of the shoes I wore
back then. But they were wood-soled and not Duegis.--Mike--
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
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Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiffGary Jacobson
Rosendale, NYWe used to use Detto Pietro shoes in the sixties in New York. We had to nail
the aluminum cleats in place. Anyone remember them as well??Bruce
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Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
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There were a number of wood-soled shoes in the mid-70s, including... darn.
Having a brain malfunction and can't remember the name of the shoes I wore
back then. But they were wood-soled and not Duegis.Quoted message said:
--Mike--
Chain Reaction Bicycles
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Gary Jacobson
Rosendale, NYWe used to use Detto Pietro shoes in the sixties in New York. We had to nail
the aluminum cleats in place. Anyone remember them as well??Bruce
The Dettos are the ones I remember; beautifully finished wooden soles.
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Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:
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That a shoe sole or you just glad to see us?
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Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiffGreat shoes -- birch soles. The wood was not consistently strong,
though, and you could get a pair that would last forever, or you could
get a pair (or one) that broke after a few hundred miles.Another good thing about the Duegis is that they came with a bolt-on
cleat -- a conventional slotted cleat, but one that you did not have
to nail on. It was among the first to do that, and then all the nylon
sole shoes came along.Also, I don't think that the Detto's had wood soles. I think they
were straight leather. I had some straight leather soles -- I think
Dettos -- which were like old baseball shoes. I also had a pair of
Italias that had steel stiffeners.The Duegis were the first (and only) single "component" that made a
big difference in power output (or perceived power output). You can
drop a bundle on a light saddle, or post or pedals, but that will not
make the same kind of day and night difference I expereinced when I
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Ash or maple?
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We used to use Detto Pietro shoes in the sixties in New York. We had to nail
the aluminum cleats in place. Anyone remember them as well??Bruce
Yes I do, alas.
Art. 74
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Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiffYep that's the one. Some riders (our attorney f'rinstance) are still
looking for those. Sadly, after 40, one's feet grow and the old shoes
get tight.
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Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
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On 8 Ott, 18:59, Ozark Bicycle
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The leather damps the road buzz coming up through the stiff wooden
sole. ;-)The all leather shoes I made and have been using everyday since about
six years ago still make a creaking sound when the weather is very
dry.
To scare the riders I occasionally ride with:
'Are your tubes pulling out of the lugs, by any chance?'Sergio
Pisa -
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 05:42:30 -0700, "Qui si parla
Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:
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Dear Peter,
I wonder why they think wood offers "better heat dissipation."
My first reaction was that wood is known for _not_ dissipating heat,
which is why we put it between our hands and hot kitchen pots, pans,
and kettles.But then I wondered if the marketers might be right? What if wood,
wonderful insulator though it is, isn't as good as the rubber and
canvas in shoes?Surely some of our Dutch posters should know if wooden shoes are
hotter or colder than normal shoes.Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Surely some of our Dutch posters should know if wooden shoes are
hotter or colder than normal shoes.Dearest Carl,
what's a normal soe, anyhow?I know well that my swedish friend used to wear scandinavian clogs
even on the fiercest winter days in NY City (with wool socks, to be
sure).Sergio
Pisa
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