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  1. Hi Guys,

    I'm brand new to the forum, but I'm a member of most of the major
    bicycle forums, so I know better than to post a question before
    scouring the existing threads. I just can't seem to find a thread
    remotely close to what I'm looking for.

    My question is: What is the difference in wheel size for MUni?

    As you probably know; with mountain bikes, a 29er rolls over obstacles
    better and is faster, but doesn't maneuver as easily as the smaller
    diameter wheels. Is the same true for MUni wheels?

    I'm 6'3" inches tall and about 205lbs. I've been MUni riding my Sun
    24" unicycle with 2.0" Bontrager XC tires on it for a while now and as
    I'm sure you can imagine, I've reached it's limitations.

    Ultimately, could someone please tell me (or point me to a thread) what
    the difference in handling/riding is between a 24", 26" and 29" Muni?

    I live in New England where the trails are less than groomed, but I
    also spend time in the Tucson, AZ area, so I'm looking for a uni that
    would be a good all-around machine for uphill, downhill, rolling over
    obstacles, stability/handling.

    I'm looking for a quality unicycle, somewhere in the neighborhood of <=
    $600.

    Thank you in advance.

    duckaxe

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  2. Most people do MUni on a 24".
    29ers are much faster and will be harder to control on steeper hills
    than the smaller unis.
    24" unis have wider, larger volume tyres which will make it easier to
    roll over bumps and rocks, and are likely to be better for big drops.
    You may have already looked, but for your budget 'these '
    (http://tinyurl.com/5shw9)are what you ought to be looking at.
    I'll leave it to others to give more info as I can't think of much
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  3. You might take a look at 'this thread'
    (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64370).

    I like the 29er wheel size better for most MUni. I like that it's
    faster and rolls better. I also like that it's closer in feel to the
    XC mountain biking that I used to love before I learned to unicycle.

    With that said, I think 29ers are a bit more challenging when starting
    out because of all the difficulties of riding a bigger wheel (more
    intimidating, farther to fall, faster speeds yield potentially harder
    falls, etc.). Also, the current tire selection is a bit limited. You
    won't find the fatter tires that provide a bit more cushion. This is
    fine with me because I'm a light 140 lbs., but I can imagine a bigger
    person might want a heftier wheel.

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  4. I would say 24" but if your doing more XC then a 29" would be fine..

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  5. The most popular high quality muni is the KH. You can get a 24 or a 29
    from A E Bike for about 450 $, that's the way to go. Read this thread
    to learn about this deal.
    http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60873

    The wide 24 tire is better on soft ground. Easier to carry around.
    Easier on hills or to idle, ride backwards etc. At least for newer
    riders.
    The 29 is better in many other ways, certainly faster. You may want
    to get a 36 someday, which is best of all for long smooth trails.
    There is really no right answer, besides owning a bunch of unis!
    The 26 is a good compromise size, but KH doesn't make one. For your
    price range, a KH 24 or 29 from A E B, with new pedals(stockers are
    heavy) , would be best IMHO.🙂 They will both fit you fine. I have a
    24, but if I was you I might rather have a 29, since you are already
    riding a 24. I really like changing wheel sizes. 🙂

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  6. The main downside of 29" for MUni is that they can't take the beating of
    the smaller wheels on the market. Though the KH rim may be the
    strongest one available, it still can't take as much abuse as the
    smaller wheels, in part because of the sheer size. As wheels get bigger
    they get inherently weaker, and the only way to strengthen them adds
    weight that makes them undesirable due to all that rotating mass.

    I recommend a 29" for easy to medium trails. If it's something you can
    ride fast on, a 29" will probably work well for you. But if it's slow
    going with lots of hopping and wheel-stopping bumps, go for one of the
    stronger 24"s with a big fat tire. The weight works out about the same,
    depending on components, but the rotating mass isn't as bad and it's
    more maneuverable.

    I've taken my 29" on some pretty hard trails, but it's a little more
    ungainly over the gnarly sections, and when there's edgy rocks and
    drops, I'm worried about a repeat of the tire pops I've experienced in
    the past (before I upgraded to the KH rim). If you really want to
    pound, get the KH 24 and shorter cranks (150).

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  7. feel the light said:

    The 26 is a good compromise size, but KH doesn't make one.

    thats a the reason i dont ride a KH..

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  8. I would suggest a 26 partially because that’s what I ride and love and
    partially because of your size. Personally I found the 24” tires did
    not roll over obsitcles on the trails as well as my 26 (only tried it
    once) and also found it quite slow. I love that extra little bit of
    diameter in a 26 to keep everything rolling smoother and would love to
    try a 29er some time for the lighter stuff but would be concerned about
    taking it off drops higher than a couple feet.

    A good 26 with a nice wide rim and 3” tire can take lots of abuse just
    like a 24 but gives you a wheel diameter nearing that of a 29er.

    I am thinking of getting a new 26 and was thinking I would e-mail UDC
    and see how much they would sell 'this'
    (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=1051) unicycle for
    with the sun doublewide rim and a pair of 165mm KH cranks as upgrades

    On the downside 26ers tend to be heavyer because the wheel is larger
    than a 24 and beefyer than a 29

    Whatever you end up with I wish you the best of luck!

    ERIC

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  9. Thanks a lot guys. I really appreciate the input. It gives me a lot of
    good information to weigh.

    I'll post results and pics when I get the new rig.

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  10. saskatchewanian said:

    Personally I found the 24” tires did not roll over obsitcles on the
    trails as well as my 26 (only tried it once) and also found it quite
    slow.

    Just a reminder, when we say 24" we're usually referring to extra-fat
    tires on 24" rims. That's effectively a 26" wheel. Though you can also
    get some extra-fat tires on 26" rims, they start getting pretty heavy.
    But if your frame can fit them and that's what you like, more power to
    ya. In the 24"s favor, it's a little lighter so if you like to do
    Trials along the way it's a better compromise than having to pedal your
    brains out on a 20".

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