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  1. I needed a few things from the hardware store, so I pedaled up there to
    get them. When I got there, I noticed several bikes parked near the
    door. They weren't chained up to anything.

    I chained up to my familiar parking sign (there is no rack) and headed
    for the door with my helmet under my arm. As I approached the door, this
    big fellow of a man, at least 20 years my senior and with a nice white
    beard, comes out and starts beating his chest.

    "Isn't it a just splendid day to be riding a bike?!!" he proclaims to
    me. I turn my head and look at him oddly because I ride my bike every
    day, rain or shine and he goes on, "Yes, a glorious day and what a
    glorious way to keep the cardiologist at bay!!!"

    It began to click in that he wasn't speaking to me, but to his younger,
    probably whiny children or grandchildren. So I agreed with him and
    ducked in the store to buy my air conditioner filters.

  2. "vey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I needed a few things from the hardware store, so I pedaled up there to get
    them. When I got there, I noticed several bikes parked near the door. They
    weren't chained up to anything.

    I chained up to my familiar parking sign (there is no rack) and headed for
    the door with my helmet under my arm. As I approached the door, this big
    fellow of a man, at least 20 years my senior and with a nice white beard,
    comes out and starts beating his chest.

    "Isn't it a just splendid day to be riding a bike?!!" he proclaims to me.
    I turn my head and look at him oddly because I ride my bike every day,
    rain or shine and he goes on, "Yes, a glorious day and what a glorious way
    to keep the cardiologist at bay!!!"

    It began to click in that he wasn't speaking to me, but to his younger,
    probably whiny children or grandchildren. So I agreed with him and ducked
    in the store to buy my air conditioner filters.

    You shoulda thoed a coke can at his head. Somebody in a pickup threw
    something at me today. Frank, where were you at 5:30 pm eastern?

  3. vey said:

    I needed a few things from the hardware store, so I pedaled up there to
    get them. When I got there, I noticed several bikes parked near the
    door. They weren't chained up to anything.

    I chained up to my familiar parking sign (there is no rack) and headed
    for the door with my helmet under my arm. As I approached the door, this
    big fellow of a man, at least 20 years my senior and with a nice white
    beard, comes out and starts beating his chest.

    "Isn't it a just splendid day to be riding a bike?!!" he proclaims to
    me. I turn my head and look at him oddly because I ride my bike every
    day, rain or shine and he goes on, "Yes, a glorious day and what a
    glorious way to keep the cardiologist at bay!!!"

    Well, Greens, most people ride sparingly, most ride for 'fun' and do
    not use their bicycle for everyday transportation and probably never
    will until fuel is scarce and anarchy reigns...remember golf is
    growing faster than cycling.

    Quoted message said:


    It began to click in that he wasn't speaking to me, but to his younger,
    probably whiny children or grandchildren. So I agreed with him and
    ducked in the store to buy my air conditioner filters.

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:

    remember golf is growing faster than cycling.

    It was recently reported in the media that 17 million fewer Americans
    are cycling. I can't recall what the comparison time frames were. In
    any event, American cycling is contracting rather than growing.

  5. Tim McNamara said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:

    remember golf is growing faster than cycling.

    It was recently reported in the media that 17 million fewer Americans
    are cycling. I can't recall what the comparison time frames were. In
    any event, American cycling is contracting rather than growing.

    Wouldn't know that if you looked at my neighborhood. I've watched
    cycling increase dramatically in the last few years and a new branch LBS
    opened 3 years ago and they are doing well. But if you go a few miles
    away, to a less prosperous neighborhood, you will not see children
    riding bikes, much less adults.

  6. Tim McNamara said:

    It was recently reported in the media that 17 million fewer Americans
    are cycling.

    That's more than 1 in 20 of our population. I would think the number
    that _are_ cycling would be less than that.

    Art Harris

  7. Tim McNamara said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:

    remember golf is growing faster than cycling.

    It was recently reported in the media that 17 million fewer Americans
    are cycling. I can't recall what the comparison time frames were. In
    any event, American cycling is contracting rather than growing.

    That can't be possible, as there is no mandatory helmet law for adults.
    We all know that the _only_ reason for fewer people cycling is the
    establishment of an MHL.

  8. SMS said:
    Tim McNamara said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:

    remember golf is growing faster than cycling.

    It was recently reported in the media that 17 million fewer Americans
    are cycling. I can't recall what the comparison time frames were. In
    any event, American cycling is contracting rather than growing.

    That can't be possible, as there is no mandatory helmet law for adults.

    Not true.

    MHLs exist in many countries, including the USofA, where, starting in 1991
    46 MHLs for ALL ages have been enacted.

    Quoted message said:

    We all know that the _only_ reason for fewer people cycling is the
    establishment of an MHL.

    The reduction in cycling correlated with the introduction of MHLs is well
    established; but the characterisation of that as the only reason for this
    decline is (to put it most charitably) disingenuous - there are a number of
    anti-cycling measures and attitudes which frequently occur in places that
    are willing to pass MHLs, and it is probable that they each have some
    effect on the numbers of cyclists. If SMS wishes to encourage cycling he
    would do well to focus not only on MHLs, but on the other factors as well.

  9. Art Harris said:
    Tim McNamara said:

    It was recently reported in the media that 17 million fewer Americans
    are cycling.

    That's more than 1 in 20 of our population. I would think the number
    that _are_ cycling would be less than that.

    Wonder if the real stat is 17 /percent/ fewer Americans are cycling? That
    sounds plausible to me.

    Bill S.

  10. Bill Sornson said:
    Art Harris said:
    Tim McNamara said:

    It was recently reported in the media that 17 million fewer Americans
    are cycling.

    That's more than 1 in 20 of our population. I would think the number
    that _are_ cycling would be less than that.

    Wonder if the real stat is 17 /percent/ fewer Americans are cycling? That
    sounds plausible to me.

    Agreed, but I'd like to see a cite of the "media report" to see how they
    inven^H^H^H^H^H measured the decline.

    A big decline in recreational MTB'ing, for example, is much different than
    a decline in urban commuting/utility cycling.

    --

    __o Kristian Zoerhoff
    _'\(,_ [email hidden]
    (_)/ (_)

  11. "vey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tim McNamara said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:

    remember golf is growing faster than cycling.

    It was recently reported in the media that 17 million fewer Americans are
    cycling. I can't recall what the comparison time frames were. In any
    event, American cycling is contracting rather than growing.

    Wouldn't know that if you looked at my neighborhood. I've watched cycling
    increase dramatically in the last few years and a new branch LBS opened 3
    years ago and they are doing well. But if you go a few miles away, to a
    less prosperous neighborhood, you will not see children riding bikes, much
    less adults.

    When you play golf, you get to sit. Hardly anyone walks around the course
    anymore. Can you really say it's a sport if all you do is get off your cart
    every few miles and hit the ball? The calorie burn per hour must be less
    than a quarter of what you get with cycling.

  12. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Tim McNamara said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:

    remember golf is growing faster than cycling.

    It was recently reported in the media that 17 million fewer Americans
    are cycling. I can't recall what the comparison time frames were. In
    any event, American cycling is contracting rather than growing.

    You are typically more careful with statistics than this.

    I judge the increase in bicycling around here by the rate
    of riders going the wrong way on the street. Riding is up.

    --
    Michael Press

  13. Greens said:

    "vey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tim McNamara said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > remember golf is growing faster than cycling.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It was recently reported in the media that 17 million fewer Americans are
    cycling. I can't recall what the comparison time frames were. In any
    event, American cycling is contracting rather than growing.

    Quoted message said:

    Wouldn't know that if you looked at my neighborhood. I've watched cycling
    increase dramatically in the last few years and a new branch LBS opened 3
    years ago and they are doing well. But if you go a few miles away, to a
    less prosperous neighborhood, you will not see children riding bikes, much
    less adults.

    When you play golf, you get to sit. Hardly anyone walks around the course
    anymore. Can you really say it's a sport if all you do is get off your cart
    every few miles and hit the ball? The calorie burn per hour must be less
    than a quarter of what you get with cycling.

    Not to mention the gallon of beer at the nineteenth hole.

  14. Tim McNamara said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:

    remember golf is growing faster than cycling.

    It was recently reported in the media that 17 million fewer Americans
    are cycling. I can't recall what the comparison time frames were. In
    any event, American cycling is contracting rather than growing.

    Much of the blame should go to the "cul-de-sac residential block
    surrounded by high speed/high traffic arterials" development pattern. In
    a metropolitan area of more than 1.5 million persons, I hardly see any
    cyclists in the suburban neighborhoods that fit the above pattern, and
    they are mostly lyrca wearing and on expensive road and tri/TT bikes.
    More cyclists are seen in the older grid pattern neighborhoods, while
    the downtown area has numerous "transportation" cyclists, sensibly
    dressed on sensible bikes.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    A Real Cyclist [TM] keeps at least one bicycle in the bedroom.

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  15. SMS said:
    Tim McNamara said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:

    remember golf is growing faster than cycling.

    It was recently reported in the media that 17 million fewer Americans
    are cycling. I can't recall what the comparison time frames were. In
    any event, American cycling is contracting rather than growing.

    That can't be possible, as there is no mandatory helmet law for adults.
    We all know that the _only_ reason for fewer people cycling is the
    establishment of an MHL.

    Nonsense. Being forced by social pressure to "bicycle lanes" and "bike
    paths" also is detrimental to cycling.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    A Real Cyclist [TM] keeps at least one bicycle in the bedroom.

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  16. Tom \'Johnny Sunset\' Sherman said:


    the downtown area has numerous "transportation" cyclists, sensibly
    dressed on sensible bikes.

    Unlike yourself, of course. ;^)

    Chalo

  17. Chalo Colina said:
    Tom \'Johnny Sunset\' Sherman said:

    the downtown area has numerous "transportation" cyclists, sensibly
    dressed on sensible bikes.

    Unlike yourself, of course. ;^)

    Hey, I know someone who uses an Earth Cycles Sunset Lowracer [1] to get
    groceries!

    Unlike many cyclists, I DO NOT pay to wear advertising.

    I am one of those people who got caught in the work location change
    situation, so I drive 300+ miles per week. 🙁

    [1] The most Fun Bicycle in the Known Universe [TM].

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    A Real Cyclist [TM] keeps at least one bicycle in the bedroom.

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  18. Tom \'Johnny Sunset\' Sherman said:
    SMS said:
    Tim McNamara said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > remember golf is growing faster than cycling.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It was recently reported in the media that 17 million fewer Americans
    are cycling. I can't recall what the comparison time frames were. In
    any event, American cycling is contracting rather than growing.

    Quoted message said:

    That can't be possible, as there is no mandatory helmet law for adults.
    We all know that the _only_ reason for fewer people cycling is the
    establishment of an MHL.

    Nonsense. Being forced by social pressure to "bicycle lanes" and "bike
    paths" also is detrimental to cycling.

    And the siytuation could get worse, IMO. Once a network of "official"
    bicycle paths and lanes are established in a given area, the pressure
    to use those routes and "stay on the path and stay off the road"
    mounts.

    Cyclists who believe in working for bike paths and bike lanes instead
    of insisting on equal acceptance on and equal access to roads should
    reconsider their position.

  19. Tom \'Johnny Sunset\' Sherman said:
    Chalo Colina said:
    Tom \'Johnny Sunset\' Sherman said:

    the downtown area has numerous "transportation" cyclists, sensibly
    dressed on sensible bikes.

    Quoted message said:

    Unlike yourself, of course. ;^)

    Hey, I know someone who uses an Earth Cycles Sunset Lowracer [1] to get
    groceries!

    Unlike many cyclists, I DO NOT pay to wear advertising.

    I am one of those people who got caught in the work location change
    situation, so I drive 300+ miles per week. 🙁

    [1] The most Fun Bicycle in the Known Universe [TM].

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia

    And I know a guy that has hauled 2x4 studs and drywall on the roof of
    a Porsche 911. That doesn't make it a sensible thing to do. As for
    "not paying to wear advertisement", most of the cyclists I know that
    wear logo jerseys do so because they simply like the jersey or, in the
    case of team wear, like the team. What's so bad about either?

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt

  20. Bob said:


    As for
    "not paying to wear advertisement", most of the cyclists I know that
    wear logo jerseys do so because they simply like the jersey or, in the
    case of team wear, like the team. What's so bad about either?

    If that's the way you feel about it, I'm just glad you aren't a figure
    skating fan.

    Chalo

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