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  1. http://www.revolutionhealth.com/healthy-living/weight-management/learn-the-basics/diet-myths/low-carb-unhappy

    May explain the anger we have witnessed here in newsgroups where
    participants are low-carbing.

    Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

    http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

    Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

    Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
    Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    May explain the anger we have witnessed here in newsgroups where


    Andrew Chung:

    Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)

    Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
    Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
    banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
    sock accounts and email addresses in the format [email hidden] (#
    being a number)

    Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
    after just over 80 days

    Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
    having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals

    Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
    ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website

    Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
    which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)

    Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
    then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
    to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.

    Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
    demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
    unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
    similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
    upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
    bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto food.

    Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
    the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe

    Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
    flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
    changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
    naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.

    Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
    Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
    being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.

    Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
    is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
    church.

    Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
    time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being
    on vacation".

    Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
    endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
    'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
    has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.

    Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
    the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the
    blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they
    pass away.

  3. MD/PhD said:

    http://www.revolutionhealth.com/healthy-living/weight-management/lear...

    May explain the anger we have witnessed here in newsgroups where
    participants are low-carbing.

    I suppose we can then extrapolate that eating 2lbs or less a day in
    the Ornish
    mode of eating induces religious mania and passive (and not so
    passive) aggression?
    At least that's what your behavior would suggest.

    I think the anger we witness in this newsgroup (ASDLC) directed at you
    is more
    a result of you than any particularly macronutrient being shunned.

  4. Mairy Hinge said:
    Quoted message said:


    Andrew <><the schizophrenic selling a book.

    more junk science from someone with a commercial agenda. it is hard for me
    to find someone here with genuine advice.

    Mairy

    where is "here"? this thread was not originally cross posted to
    multiple newsgroup until the chung troll did so. The chung troll
    originates from sci med cardiology which is basically a ruined group
    because of his trolling. In order to illicit responses he has now
    resorted to going to other newsgroups and hijacking threads by cross
    posting them to unelated groups and including the utter group sci med
    cardiology as well, just to get attention.

    gchung is a known net kook. go to alt.usenet.kooks and look at the
    kopk of the month awards and you will see just how universally known
    as kook chung really is.

    chung links to his own website because he trying to sell a book and
    scam a profit.

  5. <Flying Rat>; "Quackologist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,


    [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto food.

    [snip]

    Really?

    Really Really?

    Isn't acetone part of the body's ketones?

    However, nail polish removers often have fragrance additives.

    Some things found in the body might be toxic, if taken by mouth.

  6. Cubit........ REALLY....... Chung suggested that we put nail polish remover
    on our food to apease our appetites

    google for Chung & Nail Polish in google groups for sci.med.cardiology (and
    avoid all the cross posted groups)

    good luck!

    "Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    <Flying Rat>; "Quackologist" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,


    [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto food.

    [snip]

    Really?

    Really Really?

    Isn't acetone part of the body's ketones?

    However, nail polish removers often have fragrance additives.

    Some things found in the body might be toxic, if taken by mouth.

  7. Cubit said:
    Flying Rat; 'Quackologist said:

    Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto food.


    ...
    Really?

    Isn't acetone part of the body's ketones?

    Only one of the types of ketones generated when the body converts
    fatty acids for fuel. As well as acetyl-CoA.

    Quoted message said:

    Some things found in the body might be toxic, if taken by mouth.

    Some things are toxic if they aren't in a natural mixture of
    ingredients.
    The acetone produced inside the body is mixed with other ketones.

    Some things are toxic if they don't have a control mechanism that
    limits their dosage. The ketone release during low carb dieting
    has functional controls that limit the amount of ketones present in
    the blood to well under the amounts that occur in ketoacidosis.
    After about two weeks, the metabolism switches to mostly
    acetyl-CoA with much less ketones. Even during those two weeks
    the levels of ketones are limited because the cells consume them
    and the fat released by the liver takes metabolic rate into account.

    Showing his usual ignorance, Chung didn't take any of this into
    account.

  8. "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.revolutionhealth.com/healthy-living/weight-management/learn-the-basics/diet-myths/low-carb-unhappy

    May explain the anger we have witnessed here in newsgroups where
    participants are low-carbing.

    Dr. Chung, what anger is that? Other than blowing a little [censored] towards the
    spammers and trolls, I don't see it. -- Your Condemned Neighbor, Mike

  9. "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.revolutionhealth.com/healthy-living/weight-management/learn-the-basics/diet-myths/low-carb-unhappy

    May explain the anger we have witnessed here in newsgroups where
    participants are low-carbing.

    Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

    http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

    Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

    Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
    Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

    I have read that a higher carb diet does increase serotonin levels in the
    brain, and that is why

  10. Hi Mairy,

    ABC is guilty of a great deal, "junk science" included.
    However I don't think he has a commercial agenda *here*.

    But you needn't apologise - his posts invite misunderstanding!

    Take care,
    Phil.
    --
    "Time wounds all heels."

    Black Sabbath, Clark Terry and Duke Ellington today.
    Music is the food of my *life*.

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  11. convicted friend Kathy Claytor (KC) said:
    Andrew said:

    http://www.revolutionhealth.com/healthy-living/weight-management/learn-the-basics/diet-myths/low-carb-unhappy

    May explain the anger we have witnessed here in newsgroups where
    participants are low-carbing.

    I have read that a higher carb diet does increase serotonin levels in the
    brain, and that is why

    Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS moving you
    to affirm that you have noticed the anger too.

    Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

    http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

    Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

    Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
    Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

  12. On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:07:47 -0001, [email hidden] (Phil

    Aypee) said:

    Hi Mairy,

    ABC is guilty of a great deal, "junk science" included.
    However I don't think he has a commercial agenda *here*.

    But you needn't apologise - his posts invite misunderstanding!

    Take care,
    Phil.

    he's actually selling two things on web site. his posts are
    commercial.

  13. em said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:

    May explain the anger we have witnessed here in newsgroups where
    participants are low-carbing.

    Dr. Chung, what anger is that? Other than blowing a little [censored] towards the
    spammers and trolls, I don't see it.

    I do see trolls and liars that appear to be angry at low carbers. I
    do see
    low carbers getting angry at the liars.

    Just the other day there was a report on Banting who published several
    editions of a low carb plan in the 1860s. He got poison pen letters
    rather
    like what is now seen in response to Atkins. Plus sa change, plus sa
    meme chose ... What the problem is with eating beef and broccoli is
    I'll never understand.

  14. Quoted message said:

    "May explain the anger we have witnessed here in newsgroups where participants are low-carbing." (Dr. Andrew B. Chung)

    Quoted message said:

    "I think the anger we witness in this newsgroup (ASDLC) directed at you is more


    a result of you than any particularly macronutrient being
    shunned." (Hollywood)

    The anger witnessed is not exclusive to low-carbing participants. In
    any newsgroup Dr. Chung posts, angry responses are the usual result.

    Truth is simple.

  15. convicted friend Dale Solomonson (dsolo) said:


    Quoted message said:

    "May explain the anger we have witnessed here in newsgroups where participants are low-carbing." (Dr. Andrew B. Chung)

    Quoted message said:

    "I think the anger we witness in this newsgroup (ASDLC) directed at you is more


    a result of you than any particularly macronutrient being
    shunned." (satan via a sockpuppet)

    The anger witnessed is not exclusive to low-carbing participants. In
    any newsgroup Dr. Chung posts, angry responses are the usual result.

    Not from the one person who does not shun bread but enjoys receiving
    and eating it after praying for it :-)

    Quoted message said:

    Truth is simple.

    Indeed :-))

    Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

    http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease

    Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

    Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
    Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

  16. MD/PhD said:
    convicted friend Dale Solomonson (dsolo) said:
    Quoted message said:

    "May explain the anger we have witnessed here in newsgroups where participants are low-carbing." (Dr. Andrew B. Chung)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "I think the anger we witness in this newsgroup (ASDLC) directed at you is more


    a result of you than any particularly macronutrient being
    shunned." (satan via a sockpuppet)

    Quoted message said:

    The anger witnessed is not exclusive to low-carbing participants. In
    any newsgroup Dr. Chung posts, angry responses are the usual result.

    Not from the one person who does not shun bread but enjoys receiving
    and eating it after praying for it :-)

    As I, a formerly convicted neighbor (I got bored and apparently got
    dropped, but maybe I'll be back), wrote, originally:
    I suppose we can then extrapolate that eating 2lbs or less a day in
    the Ornish mode of eating induces religious mania and passive (and
    not so passive) aggression? At least that's what (Chung's) behavior
    would suggest.

    In terms of your aggression, passive and otherwise, I would invite
    anyone
    to Google ASDLC for "Chung Pastorio". Your incessant beating of a
    literally dead horse is as aggressive (in all senses) as it is
    bizarre. I
    suppose since you couldn't get the best of him in life, you have to
    kick
    the corpse like a classless loser. And, yeah, that's aggressive. But I
    assure you, I reserve it for Chung-hole, who is both deserving and
    inviting.

    The truth really is simple when you get over your delusions of
    grandeur.
    Like the one that there is a higher power that cares deeply about what
    people eat, how often they have sex and with who, and who has a bigger
    plan for your life. Chung, go out and live more, and worry about what
    some figment of your imagination has in store for you less.

  17. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    " The anger witnessed is not exclusive to low-carbing participants. In any newsgroup Dr. Chung posts, angry responses are the usual result." (dsolo)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Not from the one person who does not shun bread but enjoys receiving and eating it after praying for it :-)" (Dr. Andrew B. Chung)

    You can say whatever you want. But that doesn't change the facts. The
    evidence is in the archives for all to see: you stir up discord
    wherever you post.

  18. convicted friend Dale Solomonson (dsolo) said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >" The anger witnessed is not exclusive to low-carbing participants. In any newsgroup Dr. Chung posts, angry responses are the usual result." (dsolo)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >"Not from the one person who does not shun bread but enjoys receiving and eating it after praying for it :-)" (Dr. Andrew B. Chung)

    You can say whatever you want.

    It is what the Holy Spirit guides me to write.

    Quoted message said:

    But that doesn't change the facts.

    What the Holy Spirit guides me to write serves well as the light of
    the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ.

    If the "facts" look different in the light of the truth, they were not
    true facts.

    Quoted message said:

    The evidence is in the archives for all to see: you stir up discord
    wherever you post.

    Such is the effect of the light of the truth on folks who are
    untruthful.

    Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

    http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease

    Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

    Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
    Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

  19. convicted friend Dale Solomonson (dsolo) said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >" The anger witnessed is not exclusive to low-carbing participants. In any newsgroup Dr. Chung posts, angry responses are the usual result." (dsolo)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >"Not from the one person who does not shun bread but enjoys receiving and eating it after praying for it :-)" (Dr. Andrew B. Chung)

    You can say whatever you want.

    It is what the Holy Spirit guides me to write.

    Quoted message said:

    But that doesn't change the facts.

    What the Holy Spirit guides me to write serves well as the light of
    the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ.

    If the "facts" look different in the light of the truth, they were not
    true facts.

    Quoted message said:

    The evidence is in the archives for all to see: you stir up discord
    wherever you post.

    Such is the effect of the light of the truth on folks who are
    untruthful.

    Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

    http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease

    Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

    Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
    Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

  20. Dr. Chung,

    Why is your manner of writing in various newsgroups entirely different
    from that in your website(s)?

    Thank you

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