Jeanne Golay

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What did Golay test positive for?

Any of you old timers know?

GBMT

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Pan American Games
August 14, 1991

Last year at this time, Jeanne Golay's dreams were shattered and her spirits
plummeted to the lowest point in her cycling career. After competing in the
United States national championship, Golay tested positive for drugs and was
given a six-month suspension. She came back in February, and this afternoon,
competing in the Pan American Games, Golay reached the highest ground yet in
her comeback by winning a gold medal in the individual road race. The
29-year-old Floridian completed the 63-kilometer course (39 miles) in 1 hour
31 minutes 21 seconds.

Here's an interesting question: Why was Katrin Tobin relegated from
her 3rd place in the 1987 Pan Am games?

-ilan

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GoneBeforeMyTime said:

What did Golay test positive for?

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Any of you old timers know?

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GBMT

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Pan American Games
August 14, 1991

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Last year at this time, Jeanne Golay's dreams were shattered and her spirits
plummeted to the lowest point in her cycling career. After competing in the
United States national championship, Golay tested positive for drugs and was
given a six-month suspension. She came back in February, and this afternoon,
competing in the Pan American Games, Golay reached the highest ground yet in
her comeback by winning a gold medal in the individual road race. The
29-year-old Floridian completed the 63-kilometer course (39 miles) in 1 hour
31 minutes 21 seconds.

Here's an interesting question: Why was Katrin Tobin relegated from
her 3rd place in the 1987 Pan Am games?

-ilan

Apparently, this is difficult to look up on the web. Anyway, there was
a rule disallowing medal sweeps by one nation (USA women finished
1-2-3) so they relegated her to 4th and another nation got the bronze
medal.

-ilan

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a rule disallowing medal sweeps by one nation

Dumbasses of the world, meet your master: the inventor of this rule.

--
E. Dronkert

On Sep 25, 4:09 pm, Ewoud Dronkert <[email hidden]>

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a rule disallowing medal sweeps by one nation

Dumbasses of the world, meet your master: the inventor of this rule.

--
E. Dronkert

I wouldn't be surprised if it was the USA.

-ilan

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On Sep 25, 4:09 pm, Ewoud Dronkert <[email hidden]>

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a rule disallowing medal sweeps by one nation

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Dumbasses of the world, meet your master: the inventor of this rule.

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--
E. Dronkert

I wouldn't be surprised if it was the USA.

-ilan

And wouldn't be surprised either if they applied it to their national
championships.

-ilan

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GoneBeforeMyTime said:

What did Golay test positive for?

Any of you old timers know?

GBMT

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Pan American Games
August 14, 1991

Last year at this time, Jeanne Golay's dreams were shattered and her

spirits

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plummeted to the lowest point in her cycling career. After competing in

the

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United States national championship, Golay tested positive for drugs and

was

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given a six-month suspension. She came back in February, and this

afternoon,

Quoted message said:

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competing in the Pan American Games, Golay reached the highest ground

yet in

Quoted message said:

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her comeback by winning a gold medal in the individual road race. The
29-year-old Floridian completed the 63-kilometer course (39 miles) in 1

hour

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31 minutes 21 seconds.

Here's an interesting question: Why was Katrin Tobin relegated from
her 3rd place in the 1987 Pan Am games?

-ilan

The road race in the Pan Am games took place on August 9, 1987 at Columbus
Indiana.

57km - 1h 37' 24"
1. Rebecca Twigg
2. Inga Thompson
3. Katrin Tobin
4. Sara Neil

That's what I have, but the 80's stuff is really sketcy, at least what I
have. I don't have any info, so I give up, tell us the answer. Tobin rode
well that year always in the mix with Bunki Davis, Jeanne Golay and Inga
Thompson, taking 2nd and 3rd in a great number of races, but never 1st that
I can see.

I talked with Peter Nye a while back from the cycling hall of fame. I joked
that USAC might have a gold mine of info left over from USCF, which started
in one office in New York I think before it moved to Colorado. But Peter
joke, oh you think so! Peter once had access to USCF early days stats from
races when he wrote his book. He said those years, 70's and 80's were often
filed and recorded on little 3 by 5 score cards and filed away in shoe
boxes, and not only incomplete, but very hard to look stuff up. He said in
those days recording was very poor combined with getting results from races
all over the USA. He said you might find yourself quite disappointed once
you enter those archives, at least for those years. Velonews archives would
be the premiere source, their news and race reports date back to the early
70's.

GBMT

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GoneBeforeMyTime said:

What did Golay test positive for?

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Any of you old timers know?

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GBMT

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Pan American Games
August 14, 1991

Quoted message said:

Last year at this time, Jeanne Golay's dreams were shattered and her

spirits

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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plummeted to the lowest point in her cycling career. After competing

in the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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United States national championship, Golay tested positive for drugs

and was

Quoted message said:

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given a six-month suspension. She came back in February, and this

afternoon,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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competing in the Pan American Games, Golay reached the highest ground

yet in

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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her comeback by winning a gold medal in the individual road race. The
29-year-old Floridian completed the 63-kilometer course (39 miles) in

1 hour

Quoted message said:

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31 minutes 21 seconds.

Here's an interesting question: Why was Katrin Tobin relegated from
her 3rd place in the 1987 Pan Am games?

-ilan

Apparently, this is difficult to look up on the web. Anyway, there was
a rule disallowing medal sweeps by one nation (USA women finished
1-2-3) so they relegated her to 4th and another nation got the bronze
medal.

-ilan

Ah, ok. She is still recorded as 3rd! Sara Neil is from Canada, for a minute
I was thinking another American took 4th!

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What did Golay test positive for?

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Any of you old timers know?

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Pan American Games
August 14, 1991

Quoted message said:

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Last year at this time, Jeanne Golay's dreams were shattered and her

spirits

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

plummeted to the lowest point in her cycling career. After competing in

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

United States national championship, Golay tested positive for drugs and

was

Quoted message said:

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given a six-month suspension. She came back in February, and this

afternoon,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

competing in the Pan American Games, Golay reached the highest ground

yet in

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

her comeback by winning a gold medal in the individual road race. The
29-year-old Floridian completed the 63-kilometer course (39 miles) in 1

hour

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

31 minutes 21 seconds.

Quoted message said:

Here's an interesting question: Why was Katrin Tobin relegated from
her 3rd place in the 1987 Pan Am games?

Quoted message said:

-ilan

The road race in the Pan Am games took place on August 9, 1987 at Columbus
Indiana.

57km - 1h 37' 24"
1. Rebecca Twigg
2. Inga Thompson
3. Katrin Tobin
4. Sara Neil

That's what I have, but the 80's stuff is really sketcy, at least what I
have. I don't have any info, so I give up, tell us the answer. Tobin rode
well that year always in the mix with Bunki Davis, Jeanne Golay and Inga
Thompson, taking 2nd and 3rd in a great number of races, but never 1st that
I can see.

I talked with Peter Nye a while back from the cycling hall of fame. I joked
that USAC might have a gold mine of info left over from USCF, which started
in one office in New York I think before it moved to Colorado. But Peter
joke, oh you think so! Peter once had access to USCF early days stats from
races when he wrote his book. He said those years, 70's and 80's were often
filed and recorded on little 3 by 5 score cards and filed away in shoe
boxes, and not only incomplete, but very hard to look stuff up. He said in
those days recording was very poor combined with getting results from races
all over the USA. He said you might find yourself quite disappointed once
you enter those archives, at least for those years. Velonews archives would
be the premiere source, their news and race reports date back to the early
70's.

GBMT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycling_at_the_1987_Pan_American_Games#Women.27s_Individual_Race_.28Road.2C_57_km.29

-ilan

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Here's an interesting question: Why was Katrin Tobin relegated from
her 3rd place in the 1987 Pan Am games?

-ilan

Apparently, this is difficult to look up on the web. Anyway, there was
a rule disallowing medal sweeps by one nation (USA women finished
1-2-3) so they relegated her to 4th and another nation got the bronze
medal.

-ilan

Ah, ok. She is still recorded as 3rd! Sara Neil is from Canada, for a
minute
I was thinking another American took 4th!

Dude,

You should be focusing on Sara. Not to take anything away from Katrin, but
Sara was hotter.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycling_at_the_1987_Pan_American_Games#Women.27s_Individual_Race_.28Road.2C_57_km.29

-ilan

http://velonews.com/galleries/Brinton/image5.html ?

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> Here's an interesting question: Why was Katrin Tobin relegated from
> her 3rd place in the 1987 Pan Am games?
>
> -ilan

Apparently, this is difficult to look up on the web. Anyway, there was
a rule disallowing medal sweeps by one nation (USA women finished
1-2-3) so they relegated her to 4th and another nation got the bronze
medal.

-ilan

Ah, ok. She is still recorded as 3rd! Sara Neil is from Canada, for a
minute
I was thinking another American took 4th!

Dude,

You should be focusing on Sara. Not to take anything away from Katrin, but
Sara was hotter.

Memory lane...
http://www.procyclingwomen.com/Temp-3/

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I talked with Peter Nye a while back from the cycling hall of fame. I joked
that USAC might have a gold mine of info left over from USCF, which started
in one office in New York I think before it moved to Colorado. But Peter
joke, oh you think so! Peter once had access to USCF early days stats from
races when he wrote his book. He said those years, 70's and 80's were often
filed and recorded on little 3 by 5 score cards and filed away in shoe
boxes, and not only incomplete, but very hard to look stuff up. He said in
those days recording was very poor combined with getting results from races
all over the USA. He said you might find yourself quite disappointed once
you enter those archives, at least for those years. Velonews archives would
be the premiere source, their news and race reports date back to the early
70's.

Actually I kept the USCF records in my computer from 1977 to 1985 but
was unable to interest any of the staff in maintaining them. Sometime
around 1980 a Southern California rider who passed away bequeathed his
cycling document collection to USCF and I managed to make copies of some
of it. However that collection was stored in the basement at Colorado
Springs and short time later a flood wiped it out.

Meanwhile I have every issue of VeloNews that was ever published, which
I keep in my basement and hope that the termites don't find them. I
learned yesterday that the Stanford computer where I have stored many
historical USCF documents is going down in a week or so, so I plan to
export a lot of those files in a hurry. Unfortunately some of the file
formats are no longer understood by modern software, so the details of
history continue to slip away.

-Les Earnest

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Actually I kept the USCF records in my computer from 1977 to 1985 but
was unable to interest any of the staff in maintaining them. Sometime
around 1980 a Southern California rider who passed away bequeathed his
cycling document collection to USCF and I managed to make copies of some
of it. However that collection was stored in the basement at Colorado
Springs and short time later a flood wiped it out.

Meanwhile I have every issue of VeloNews that was ever published, which
I keep in my basement and hope that the termites don't find them. I
learned yesterday that the Stanford computer where I have stored many
historical USCF documents is going down in a week or so, so I plan to
export a lot of those files in a hurry. Unfortunately some of the file
formats are no longer understood by modern software, so the details of
history continue to slip away.

-Les Earnest

That's an pretty wild story to say the least. But your Velonews archives
should hold nearly everything of interest. For the rest of the world, their
decades of UK Cycling Weekly, half a dozen other cycling mags from Italy,
France, Holland, etc. holds the results and articles of the rest of the
world. I know someone who has them as well as Velonews. He has a five room
apartment, and all five rooms and his basement are full of shelves of these
mags. He sleeps in one small room, and that room is starting to collect
cycling mags. However your 70-80's stuff is cool. This guy only started in
the 80's!

B-

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You should be focusing on Sara. Not to take anything away from Katrin, but
Sara was hotter.

Wait a minute - at the time she was racing so was Inga Thompson and Rebecca
Twigg both of whom would grow hair on an egg and make raw bread dough grow
erect.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Les Earnest said:

GoneBeforeMyTime said:

I talked with Peter Nye a while back from the cycling hall of fame. I joked
that USAC might have a gold mine of info left over from USCF, which started
in one office in New York I think before it moved to Colorado. But Peter
joke, oh you think so! Peter once had access to USCF early days stats from
races when he wrote his book. He said those years, 70's and 80's were often
filed and recorded on little 3 by 5 score cards and filed away in shoe
boxes, and not only incomplete, but very hard to look stuff up. He said in
those days recording was very poor combined with getting results from races
all over the USA. He said you might find yourself quite disappointed once
you enter those archives, at least for those years. Velonews archives would
be the premiere source, their news and race reports date back to the early
70's.

Actually I kept the USCF records in my computer from 1977 to 1985 but
was unable to interest any of the staff in maintaining them. Sometime
around 1980 a Southern California rider who passed away bequeathed his
cycling document collection to USCF and I managed to make copies of some
of it. However that collection was stored in the basement at Colorado
Springs and short time later a flood wiped it out.

Meanwhile I have every issue of VeloNews that was ever published, which
I keep in my basement and hope that the termites don't find them. I
learned yesterday that the Stanford computer where I have stored many
historical USCF documents is going down in a week or so, so I plan to
export a lot of those files in a hurry. Unfortunately some of the file
formats are no longer understood by modern software, so the details of
history continue to slip away.

-Les Earnest

Les: what kind of file format problems are there? I mean, I'm not gonna
lecture the creator of finger about file formats, but there is this
thing called awk, and I have messed around with it.

I have to assume these are some evil packed binary format that is now
unreadable, or maybe they're in WordPerfect 1.0 or whatnot. It can be
dealt with.

If there's a particular technical issue I might be able to help with,
let me know,

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Les Earnest said:

GoneBeforeMyTime said:

I talked with Peter Nye a while back from the cycling hall of fame. I joked
that USAC might have a gold mine of info left over from USCF, which started
in one office in New York I think before it moved to Colorado. But Peter
joke, oh you think so! Peter once had access to USCF early days stats from
races when he wrote his book. He said those years, 70's and 80's were often
filed and recorded on little 3 by 5 score cards and filed away in shoe
boxes, and not only incomplete, but very hard to look stuff up. He said in
those days recording was very poor combined with getting results from races
all over the USA. He said you might find yourself quite disappointed once
you enter those archives, at least for those years. Velonews archives would
be the premiere source, their news and race reports date back to the early
70's.

Quoted message said:

Actually I kept the USCF records in my computer from 1977 to 1985 but
was unable to interest any of the staff in maintaining them. Sometime
around 1980 a Southern California rider who passed away bequeathed his
cycling document collection to USCF and I managed to make copies of some
of it. However that collection was stored in the basement at Colorado
Springs and short time later a flood wiped it out.

Quoted message said:

Meanwhile I have every issue of VeloNews that was ever published, which
I keep in my basement and hope that the termites don't find them. I
learned yesterday that the Stanford computer where I have stored many
historical USCF documents is going down in a week or so, so I plan to
export a lot of those files in a hurry. Unfortunately some of the file
formats are no longer understood by modern software, so the details of
history continue to slip away.

Quoted message said:

-Les Earnest

Les: what kind of file format problems are there? I mean, I'm not gonna
lecture the creator of finger about file formats, but there is this
thing called awk, and I have messed around with it.

I have to assume these are some evil packed binary format that is now
unreadable, or maybe they're in WordPerfect 1.0 or whatnot. It can be
dealt with.

If there's a particular technical issue I might be able to help with,
let me know,

Dumbass -

That's cool that you can do some of that stuff, but a big problem over
the long run that's difficult to solve is the inherent long term
instability of digital media.

You got any solutions for it? I'm sure there are plenty of ideas out
there, but as far as implementing them cost effectively . . .

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

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You should be focusing on Sara. Not to take anything away from Katrin,

but

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Sara was hotter.

Wait a minute - at the time she was racing so was Inga Thompson and

Rebecca

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Twigg both of whom would grow hair on an egg and make raw bread dough grow
erect.

Besides Twigg, its Golay that has the incredibly consistent remarkable
palmares. Inga's were good too.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycling_at_the_1987_Pan_American_Games#Women.27s_Individual_Race_.28Road.2C_57_km.29

-ilan

http://velonews.com/galleries/Brinton/image5.html ?

Not the same David Brinton.

http://www.ridingtowin.com/

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You should be focusing on Sara. Not to take anything away from Katrin,
but
Sara was hotter.

Memory lane...
http://www.procyclingwomen.com/Temp-3/

Petra Grimberger http://www.procyclingwomen.com/Temp-3/Early-Years-32.jpg
was a hottie too, but definitely overshadowed by LvM.

I see you still are lacking pictures of Annette Neumann. Must be in an East
German archive somewhere.