Weightlifting Circle??

Prisoner at War said:

Hey, how come runners get to have all the fun?

They have to have something to make up for the unbearable tedium of the
actual running.

Quoted message said:

Are weightlifters rather like bicyclists and tend to be solitary?

Cyclists are solitary? I'd better email the London Cycling Campaign
borough groups and tell them to stop their weekly rides and disband.

I don't know why lifting tends to be solitary, or to not often progress
beyond having a gym buddy. Perhaps it's because it's something that really
is difficult to do in a group - twenty people can run down a road
together, but how are twenty people going to bench press together without
taking over a whole (and quite large) gym?

I suspect another reason, though. I know a good few runners, and what i
hear from them is that perhaps the major use of running clubs is as a pool
of potential dates. Potential dates with firm buttocks and plenty of
endurance. If we want weightlifting circles, we either need to recruit a
lot more women, or turn gay.

Hmm. I wonder if there *are* gay weightlifting clubs. It'd make a lot of
sense, and i wouldn't expect to know about it. If there are, then PaW,
you're in luck, you're living in the right city!

tom

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Formal logical proofs, and therefore programs - formal logical proofs
that particular computations are possible, expressed in a formal system
called a programming language - are utterly meaningless. To write a
computer program you have to come to terms with this, to accept that
whatever you might want the program to mean, the machine will blindly
follow its meaningless rules and come to some meaningless conclusion. --
Dehnadi and Bornat

Prisoner at War said:

Hey, how come runners get to have all the fun?

They have to have something to make up for the unbearable tedium of the
actual running.

Quoted message said:

Are weightlifters rather like bicyclists and tend to be solitary?

Cyclists are solitary? I'd better email the London Cycling Campaign
borough groups and tell them to stop their weekly rides and disband.

I don't know why lifting tends to be solitary, or to not often progress
beyond having a gym buddy. Perhaps it's because it's something that really
is difficult to do in a group - twenty people can run down a road
together, but how are twenty people going to bench press together without
taking over a whole (and quite large) gym?

I suspect another reason, though. I know a good few runners, and what i
hear from them is that perhaps the major use of running clubs is as a pool
of potential dates. Potential dates with firm buttocks and plenty of
endurance. If we want weightlifting circles, we either need to recruit a
lot more women, or turn gay.

Hmm. I wonder if there *are* gay weightlifting clubs. It'd make a lot of
sense, and i wouldn't expect to know about it. If there are, then PaW,
you're in luck, you're living in the right city!

tom

--
Formal logical proofs, and therefore programs - formal logical proofs
that particular computations are possible, expressed in a formal system
called a programming language - are utterly meaningless. To write a
computer program you have to come to terms with this, to accept that
whatever you might want the program to mean, the machine will blindly
follow its meaningless rules and come to some meaningless conclusion. --
Dehnadi and Bornat

Prisoner at War said:

Hey, how come runners get to have all the fun?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/23/nyregion/nyregionspecial2/23Rrunner...

Anyone know of a similar group, only for weightlifters?

I've even tried soliciting on Craig's List, of all places, but no luck
so far!

Are weightlifters rather like bicyclists and tend to be solitary?

I don't mean the teens who hit the gym once in a while before going to
the club or something. Most lifters at my gym seem like they're on
their own. For some reason, people's schedules and levels of strength
and commitment never seem to match up.

Runner's groups seem like they're everywhere in town, but I can't
believe we don't have a weightlifting circle here in NYC!

I suppose it all has to do with being tied down to equipment
available, which means membership at a particular gym, whereas running
can take place anywhere.

i think you see the majority of weightlifters lifting by them selves
now in days is because of MP3 players. the headphones keep you fucused
and secluded from others.

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Prisoner at War said:

Hey, how come runners get to have all the fun?

They have to have something to make up for the unbearable tedium of
the actual running.

🙂 A nice run through the woods either alone or with a bunch of friends
is soo tediuos. Give me the smell and sounds of an indoor gym with lots
of grunts. Given the choice I'll take my skinny muscleless physique
outside in the fresh air. 🙂

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Are weightlifters rather like bicyclists and tend to be solitary?

Cyclists are solitary? I'd better email the London Cycling Campaign
borough groups and tell them to stop their weekly rides and disband.

Most bikers dispise riding alone. Without a train they ahve to do all
the hard work themselves. 😉

Quoted message said:

I don't know why lifting tends to be solitary, or to not often
progress beyond having a gym buddy. Perhaps it's because it's
something that really is difficult to do in a group - twenty people
can run down a road together, but how are twenty people going to bench
press together without taking over a whole (and quite large) gym?

Very true.

Quoted message said:

I suspect another reason, though. I know a good few runners, and what
i hear from them is that perhaps the major use of running clubs is as
a pool of potential dates. Potential dates with firm buttocks and
plenty of endurance. If we want weightlifting circles, we either need
to recruit a lot more women, or turn gay.

Try both sides of fence and double the odds.

Doug, having run since it's cross-posted and who knows, to
cross-dressers.

Tom Anderson said:

They have to have something to make up for the unbearable tedium of the
actual running.

That's what I don't get. It's all in the mind! How's the stress and
strain of muscle running different than the stress and strain of
muscles lifting? I mean, if you actually enjoy the physical sensation
of muscular exertion, it should be all the same, more or less.

Quoted message said:

Cyclists are solitary? I'd better email the London Cycling Campaign
borough groups and tell them to stop their weekly rides and disband.

Sure there are many bike clubs -- it's even a socio-political movement
in many places -- but the vast majority of bicyclists in NYC ride
alone.

Quoted message said:

I don't know why lifting tends to be solitary, or to not often progress
beyond having a gym buddy.

Even that's hard to find -- a reliable, regular workout partner,
anyway. I could be making so much more progress if I was able to do
forced reps with a good spotter!

Quoted message said:

Perhaps it's because it's something that really
is difficult to do in a group - twenty people can run down a road
together, but how are twenty people going to bench press together without
taking over a whole (and quite large) gym?

Or maybe just three to five. Besides, presumably not all would be on
the same exact regimen: some would do three days a week, some five
days, some only once as per HTT principles.

Quoted message said:

I suspect another reason, though. I know a good few runners, and what i
hear from them is that perhaps the major use of running clubs is as a pool
of potential dates. Potential dates with firm buttocks and plenty of
endurance. If we want weightlifting circles, we either need to recruit a
lot more women, or turn gay.

Actually, women that run regularly tend to be slim. I don't mind that
slim look, but I much more prefer a meat-n-potatoes kinda gal (though
these slim chicks are usually more flexible, it's true).

As for dates...actually, that's somewhat debatable: the bike clubs
I've checked out in NYC tend to be full of old folks.

Quoted message said:

Hmm. I wonder if there *are* gay weightlifting clubs.

Redundant: some gyms are de facto gay gyms.

Quoted message said:

It'd make a lot of
sense, and i wouldn't expect to know about it. If there are, then PaW,
you're in luck, you're living in the right city!

Yeah, the gyms here are full of gays...except mine, I think: it's too
no-frills for most of them.

Hard to find reliable workout partners anyway. Oh well...until then,
there's always MFW!

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tom

--
Formal logical proofs, and therefore programs - formal logical proofs
that particular computations are possible, expressed in a formal system
called a programming language - are utterly meaningless. To write a
computer program you have to come to terms with this, to accept that
whatever you might want the program to mean, the machine will blindly
follow its meaningless rules and come to some meaningless conclusion. --
Dehnadi and Bornat

Quoted message said:

i think you see the majority of weightlifters lifting by them selves
now in days is because of MP3 players. the headphones keep you fucused
and secluded from others.

Wouldn't that go for runners as well?

I used to see runners by themselves a lot. I think the majority still
run solo -- but more and more I'm seeing these groups...and I don't
mean the varsity track and field, either.

Nothing beats them Army runs, though. Sometimes whole battalions, the
whole post...wow! Really make 'em woods echo with song. And it's
real fun. No race at all -- but running at a good pace, hollering to
cadence, and finishing the run. It's probably the one thing I really
truly miss.

I wonder if it'd be possible to organize a runners' group based on
Army P.T., not for speed but no slouching either, with cadence, in
step...I wonder if that's the next step in the "evolution" of these
runners' clubs, organizing around certain themes.

Doug Freese said:

🙂 A nice run through the woods either alone or with a bunch of friends
is soo tediuos. Give me the smell and sounds of an indoor gym with lots
of grunts. Given the choice I'll take my skinny muscleless physique
outside in the fresh air. 🙂

I wish we had a Muscle Beach here in NYC...I've always thought that
weightlifting would be so much more fun in the open air...I ain't no
sun-worshipper at all, but underneath a shady tree would be great....

Quoted message said:

Most bikers dispise riding alone. Without a train they ahve to do all
the hard work themselves. 😉

Actually, I suspect that most cyclists despise riding with the wrong
crowd even more than riding solo. I've recommended clubs to various
people who just won't join them. They want to ride with a group, yet
shy away from formal organized rides. I myself know that you get some
real helmet nazi types in these clubs -- and it's mostly older people,
very few single young women, much less hot sexy ones!

Quoted message said:

Very true.

Actually, I think it's more a matter of equipment availability --
namely, everyone would have to join the same club to lift together,
and that could be impractical in a big city like New York.

Quoted message said:

Try both sides of fence and double the odds.

Unfortunately, there ain't a weightlifting club anywhere!

Quoted message said:

Doug, having run since it's cross-posted and who knows, to
cross-dressers.

?

Doug Freese said:

Give me the smell and sounds of an indoor gym with lots
of grunts.

Douglass, you creep.

Quoted message said:

Given the choice I'll take my skinny muscleless physique
outside in the fresh air. 🙂

Like you have a choice. The last time you stepped inside a gym they
beat the snot out of you for that locker room incident.

Quoted message said:

Try both sides of fence and double the odds.

Hey it works for you with sexual preferences, so I guess it'll work.

Quoted message said:

Doug, having run since it's cross-posted and who knows, to
cross-dressers.

An expert on crossdressing, aren't you DougLASS?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hmm. I wonder if there *are* gay weightlifting clubs.

Rec.fitness.weights is LOADED with them. I'd venture as far as to say
there's not one [censored] lover (heterosexual) in the whole group.

So, do you guys prefer working out oiled up?

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Prisoner at War said:

On Sep 24, 1:44 pm, [email hidden] wrote:

I wonder if it'd be possible to organize a runners' group based on
Army P.T., not for speed but no slouching either, with cadence, in
step...I wonder if that's the next step in the "evolution" of these
runners' clubs, organizing around certain themes.

When I lived in the DC area in the early '90s, there was something
called "The Sarge's Fitness Program." It was based on Army PT. You
showed up at a park somewhere early in the morning, and the
"instructor" took you through an Army PT session, finishing up with a
group run. They met daily, rain or shine. I wonder how successful it
was, and if it's still around?

I know a lot of gyms offer so-called "boot camp" exercise classes. Not
the same thing though.

You're right. Nothing like a battalion run at 0530 with 500 guys
running in formation, all sounding off. Makes me want to re-enlist
just thinking about it.

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Prisoner at War said:

On Sep 24, 1:44 pm, [email hidden] wrote:

I wonder if it'd be possible to organize a runners' group based on Army
P.T., not for speed but no slouching either, with cadence, in step...I
wonder if that's the next step in the "evolution" of these runners'
clubs, organizing around certain themes.

When I lived in the DC area in the early '90s, there was something
called "The Sarge's Fitness Program." It was based on Army PT. You
showed up at a park somewhere early in the morning, and the "instructor"
took you through an Army PT session, finishing up with a group run. They
met daily, rain or shine. I wonder how successful it was, and if it's
still around?

That's the latest craze here in London town - under the name of "British
military fitness". They got a web-site:

http://www.britmilfit.com/

I have three friends who have taken it up entirely independently. All
girls, funnily enough. I'm sure the involvement of athletic men in
uniforms has nothing to do with it.

tom

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Poise, Quemadero, Rob, Ser, Soot, Su, Thru, Unemancipated, Wave

On Sep 24, 1:44 pm, [email hidden] wrote:
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Quoted message said:

i think you see the majority of weightlifters lifting by them selves
now in days is because of MP3 players. the headphones keep you fucused
and secluded from others.

I read instead of going deaf courtesy of an iPod. While an mp3 player
is certainly a mechanical way to say, "STFU!" a book is the equivalent
of inviting conversation: "Hey, this ain't no liberry, pal!"

Oookay.

Seriously, I love a book or a magazine on the Life Cycle and it's even
a good thing to have between sets of leg presses or chest.

--
Curt

Prisoner at War said:

Hey, how come runners get to have all the fun?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/23/nyregion/nyregionspecial2/23Rrunners.html?ref=nyregionspecial2

Anyone know of a similar group, only for weightlifters?

I've even tried soliciting on Craig's List, of all places, but no luck
so far!

Are weightlifters rather like bicyclists and tend to be solitary?

I don't mean the teens who hit the gym once in a while before going to
the club or something. Most lifters at my gym seem like they're on
their own. For some reason, people's schedules and levels of strength
and commitment never seem to match up.

Runner's groups seem like they're everywhere in town, but I can't
believe we don't have a weightlifting circle here in NYC!

I suppose it all has to do with being tied down to equipment
available, which means membership at a particular gym, whereas running
can take place anywhere.

That's basically it. It easy to have half a dozen or more people all
running at a similar intensity at the same time and place. To do that
with resistance exercises, You are more or less locked into bodyweight
exercises. How many people can do bench press at the same time in one
place? A similar reason may explain why few if any of those runners
groups meet at gyms to have a group run on the tread mills (or did i miss
those?).

i have never had any problems having a workout partner who was at a
different strength level than i. In fact, it almost always works out that
way. But if the workout group gets larger than 3 or 4, it just gets
cumbersome and naturally seems to starts breaking into smaller groups.

Alric Knebel [email protected] said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hmm. I wonder if there *are* gay weightlifting clubs.

Quoted message said:

Rec.fitness.weights is LOADED with them. I'd venture as far as to say
there's not one [censored] lover (heterosexual) in the whole group.

So, do you guys prefer working out oiled up?

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I bet they 'oil up' certain areas in the locker room.

Shava_X said:

How many people can do bench press at the same time in one
place? A similar reason may explain why few if any of those runners
groups meet at gyms to have a group run on the tread mills (or did i miss
those?).

We have a running xt group that meets on Sat mornings in winter - in a
gymnastics / fitness center - generally about 10-20 runners. We run
snake-like, barefoot laps around pylons on the gymnastics floor exercise
mats - about 90yds/lap, iirc. It starts slow for warmup then increase
speed. Those that have trouble keeping up can just step out for a lap
and jump back in when they're ready. We do agility drills and some
standard running drills as well as plyometrics where we jump onto or
over mats - about 20 jumps/lap, 6 laps total (forward, sideways left,
right; onto then over). We'll do other drills, some on running
trampoline, that are all in follow-the-leader / congo-line fashion. That
goes on for a little over an hour, then some stretches, then 35 min
machine circuit - 27 stations, iirc, 1 min each. Every 3rd station is
aerobic.

The first year I took it, he tried to teach us power lifting every 3rd
week, but that didn't work out having 1 instructor with about 10-15
women who had never lifted. We were also doing that on the mats, so we
were dealing with unstable surfaces.

I think one reason you may not see groups of runners on tm is that most
runners prefer to run outside. If they're inside, they're more likely
cross-training.

Dot

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"I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work, the more I
have of it."
-Thomas Jefferson, third President of the United States

Prisoner at War said:

Doug Freese said:

Most bikers dispise riding alone. Without a train they ahve to do all
the hard work themselves. 😉

Actually, I suspect that most cyclists despise riding with the wrong
crowd even more than riding solo. I've recommended clubs to various
people who just won't join them. They want to ride with a group, yet
shy away from formal organized rides. I myself know that you get some
real helmet nazi types in these clubs -- and it's mostly older people,
very few single young women, much less hot sexy ones!

You're riding with the wrong clubs then. I'll have to post the URL when
the ladies of my bike club start selling their calendar again.

Actually, let me just post last years URL:

http://www.point83.com/calendar/

--
Dane Buson - [email hidden]
"A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around
for a coffin."

Dane Buson said:

Prisoner at War said:

On Sep 24, 3:09 pm, "Doug Freese" <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Most bikers dispise riding alone. Without a train they ahve to do all
the hard work themselves. 😉

Quoted message said:

Actually, I suspect that most cyclists despise riding with the wrong
crowd even more than riding solo. I've recommended clubs to various
people who just won't join them. They want to ride with a group, yet
shy away from formal organized rides. I myself know that you get some
real helmet nazi types in these clubs -- and it's mostly older people,
very few single young women, much less hot sexy ones!

You're riding with the wrong clubs then. I'll have to post the URL when
the ladies of my bike club start selling their calendar again.

Actually, let me just post last years URL:

http://www.point83.com/calendar/

--
Dane Buson - [email hidden]
"A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around
for a coffin."

Curt said:

I read instead of going deaf courtesy of an iPod. While an mp3 player
is certainly a mechanical way to say, "STFU!" a book is the equivalent
of inviting conversation: "Hey, this ain't no liberry, pal!"

Oookay.

Seriously, I love a book or a magazine on the Life Cycle and it's even
a good thing to have between sets of leg presses or chest.

--
Curt

Other than music, the only other distraction I can stand while on one
of them aerobic torture devices is TV. Reading is much too cerebral.
I find that as my mind wanders, so does my cadence...whereas audio-
visuals don't seem to require a lot of processing power. No way I can
concentrate on working out (it ain't brainless at all, exercise,
contrary to popular misconceptions) and read, but I can concentrate on
working out with audio-visual stimuli in the background.

Hmm, not bad; not bad!

Not as hot as biker chicks, but definitely on the better-looking side
of most literature courses!

So when do y'all meet, where do y'all ride in this town....

Dane Buson said:

You're riding with the wrong clubs then. I'll have to post the URL when
the ladies of my bike club start selling their calendar again.

Actually, let me just post last years URL:

http://www.point83.com/calendar/

--
Dane Buson - [email hidden]
"A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around
for a coffin."