Road Cycling · Public discussion

Poor Little Devolder

Started by Tom Kunich · · Last activity · 11 posts · 447 views

This thread is locked and is currently read-only.

Thread navigation

Jump through the discussion

Go to the original post, the replies on this page, or the latest preserved contribution.

Thread details

What we know about this thread

Original section
Road Cycling
Published
10 September 2007
Last activity
12 September 2007
Original author
Tom Kunich
Posts
11
Discussion status
Public discussion
Total views
447
Views / 30 days
0

The navigation and discussion metadata provide context. Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Showing posts 1–11 of 11
Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Text size
  1. I wonder if Devolder had any excuses for breaking down on the climb like he
    did.

    I sort of like the guy but the problem is that any Belgian that looks like
    he may get good is idolized to such an extent that they can never live up to
    the press and many if not most of them become so sanctimoniously egotistical
    that they're hardly worth thinking about.

  2. Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

    I wonder if Devolder had any excuses for breaking down on the climb like he
    did.

    I sort of like the guy but the problem is that any Belgian that looks like
    he may get good is idolized to such an extent that they can never live up to
    the press and many if not most of them become so sanctimoniously egotistical
    that they're hardly worth thinking about.

    He made no excuses that I heard. Belgium is a country of a little over
    10 million people only. Cycling is a big part of their culture; so of
    course they get excited when a promising rider does good. I was
    surprised he cracked so early in the last climb but things were
    looking promising after his time trial. You can say the same about
    Monfort; he was not able to keep the pace as well after being in a
    position to do some damage (he dropped to ninth overall). Could you
    give me an example of how they seem "sanctimoniously egotistical" to
    you?
    I see that you don't like French riders neither, or is it French
    people. How many other countries do you have a hatred for?
    O.K...Devolder disappointed today, but is that a reason to belittle
    him and to say that he's not worth even thinking about.
    Give him a chance he could still make something good out of La Vuelta.
    I think he may have over extended himself yesterday and had little
    energy for today. In the future he may hold back a little and not have
    such a bad day on the next stage.

    Andre

  3. "Andre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

    I wonder if Devolder had any excuses for breaking down on the climb like
    he
    did.

    I sort of like the guy but the problem is that any Belgian that looks
    like
    he may get good is idolized to such an extent that they can never live up
    to
    the press and many if not most of them become so sanctimoniously
    egotistical
    that they're hardly worth thinking about.

    I see that you don't like French riders neither, or is it French
    people.

    I don't know what gave you that idea other than my tweaking you guys now and
    then. Actually I'm always pulling for French riders and my knowledge of the
    French leads me to like most of them who are below the nose-in-the-air upper
    crust. But then you can say that about upper class Americans as well.

    Quoted message said:

    How many other countries do you have a hatred for?

    Let's see, Iran with their drive for a nuclear weapons technology, Korea for
    same, ....... Gee I've about run out of countries to hate. You've made a
    point of hate yourself.

    Quoted message said:

    O.K...Devolder disappointed today, but is that a reason to belittle
    him and to say that he's not worth even thinking about.

    Devolder is still capable of becoming a great rider if he doesn't let the
    hero worship lead him to believe that he is a miracle worker. Tom Boonen is
    sure having a hard time trying to live a normal life and not get a swelled
    head.

  4. Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

    "Andre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

    I wonder if Devolder had any excuses for breaking down on the climb like
    he
    did.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I sort of like the guy but the problem is that any Belgian that looks
    like
    he may get good is idolized to such an extent that they can never live up
    to
    the press and many if not most of them become so sanctimoniously
    egotistical
    that they're hardly worth thinking about.

    Quoted message said:

    I see that you don't like French riders neither, or is it French
    people.

    I don't know what gave you that idea other than my tweaking you guys now and
    then. Actually I'm always pulling for French riders and my knowledge of the
    French leads me to like most of them who are below the nose-in-the-air upper
    crust. But then you can say that about upper class Americans as well.

    Quoted message said:

    How many other countries do you have a hatred for?

    Let's see, Iran with their drive for a nuclear weapons technology, Korea for
    same, ....... Gee I've about run out of countries to hate. You've made a
    point of hate yourself.

    Quoted message said:

    O.K...Devolder disappointed today, but is that a reason to belittle
    him and to say that he's not worth even thinking about.

    Devolder is still capable of becoming a great rider if he doesn't let the
    hero worship lead him to believe that he is a miracle worker. Tom Boonen is
    sure having a hard time trying to live a normal life and not get a swelled
    head.

    Do we say "swelled or swollen"? If Iran wants nukes let them have
    them. You don't think they'll reach North America do you? They have to
    protect themselves from Israel don't they?
    Devolder was miraculous yesterday...at least for one day.
    How did I make "a point of hatred"?

  5. Perhaps you sort of like the guy because he's sanctimoniously egotistical
    like you.

    "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I wonder if Devolder had any excuses for breaking down on the climb like he
    did.

    I sort of like the guy but the problem is that any Belgian that looks like
    he may get good is idolized to such an extent that they can never live up
    to the press and many if not most of them become so sanctimoniously
    egotistical that they're hardly worth thinking about.

  6. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    O.K...Devolder disappointed today, but is that a reason to belittle
    him and to say that he's not worth even thinking about.

    Devolder is still capable of becoming a great rider if he doesn't let the
    hero worship lead him to believe that he is a miracle worker. Tom Boonen
    is sure having a hard time trying to live a normal life and not get a
    swelled head.

    Not sure if you're giving a backhanded compliment or what. I've been pretty
    impressed with Boonen's ability to not only shoulder the responsibility that
    comes with being a world-class cyclist, but also maintain the required sense
    of, what, respect from the rest of the peloton without coming across as a
    total jerk? I'm not sure how best to put that. Whatever, it seems to me that
    Tom's a pretty well-balanced, halfway decent guy, all things considered.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Andre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

    I wonder if Devolder had any excuses for breaking down on the climb like
    he
    did.

    I sort of like the guy but the problem is that any Belgian that looks
    like
    he may get good is idolized to such an extent that they can never live
    up to
    the press and many if not most of them become so sanctimoniously
    egotistical
    that they're hardly worth thinking about.

    I see that you don't like French riders neither, or is it French
    people.

    I don't know what gave you that idea other than my tweaking you guys now
    and then. Actually I'm always pulling for French riders and my knowledge
    of the French leads me to like most of them who are below the
    nose-in-the-air upper crust. But then you can say that about upper class
    Americans as well.

    Quoted message said:

    How many other countries do you have a hatred for?

    Let's see, Iran with their drive for a nuclear weapons technology, Korea
    for same, ....... Gee I've about run out of countries to hate. You've made
    a point of hate yourself.

    Quoted message said:

    O.K...Devolder disappointed today, but is that a reason to belittle
    him and to say that he's not worth even thinking about.

    Devolder is still capable of becoming a great rider if he doesn't let the
    hero worship lead him to believe that he is a miracle worker. Tom Boonen
    is sure having a hard time trying to live a normal life and not get a
    swelled head.

  7. Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:
    Quoted message said:

    How many other countries do you have a hatred for?

    Let's see, Iran with their drive for a nuclear weapons technology, Korea for
    same, ....... Gee I've about run out of countries to hate.

    <snip>

    Dumbass -

    Why hate them for that? After all, we have them. Enough to cause a
    global mass extinction event.

    thanks,

    K. Gringioni.

  8. Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

    I wonder if Devolder had any excuses for breaking down on the climb like he
    did.


    I wonder if Kunich had any excuses for getting dropped from the
    touring club ride ? Maybe they will not renew his "contract".

  9. Andre said:
    Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

    "Andre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Sep 9, 9:01 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
    > I wonder if Devolder had any excuses for breaking down on the climb like
    > he
    > did.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I sort of like the guy but the problem is that any Belgian that looks
    > like
    > he may get good is idolized to such an extent that they can never live up
    > to
    > the press and many if not most of them become so sanctimoniously
    > egotistical
    > that they're hardly worth thinking about.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I see that you don't like French riders neither, or is it French
    people.

    Quoted message said:

    I don't know what gave you that idea other than my tweaking you guys now and
    then. Actually I'm always pulling for French riders and my knowledge of the
    French leads me to like most of them who are below the nose-in-the-air upper
    crust. But then you can say that about upper class Americans as well.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    How many other countries do you have a hatred for?

    Quoted message said:

    Let's see, Iran with their drive for a nuclear weapons technology, Korea for
    same, ....... Gee I've about run out of countries to hate. You've made a
    point of hate yourself.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    O.K...Devolder disappointed today, but is that a reason to belittle
    him and to say that he's not worth even thinking about.

    Quoted message said:

    Devolder is still capable of becoming a great rider if he doesn't let the
    hero worship lead him to believe that he is a miracle worker. Tom Boonen is
    sure having a hard time trying to live a normal life and not get a swelled
    head.

    Do we say "swelled or swollen"?

    Either can be used.

    Quoted message said:

    If Iran wants nukes let them have
    them. You don't think they'll reach North America do you?

    No, as a matter of fact I think they're going to reach Europe.

    Quoted message said:

    They have to
    protect themselves from Israel don't they?

    Yeah, if there's a real threat to Iran it's just got to be Israel.

  10. Mike Jacoubowsky said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    O.K...Devolder disappointed today, but is that a reason to belittle
    him and to say that he's not worth even thinking about.

    Quoted message said:

    Devolder is still capable of becoming a great rider if he doesn't let the
    hero worship lead him to believe that he is a miracle worker. Tom Boonen
    is sure having a hard time trying to live a normal life and not get a
    swelled head.

    Not sure if you're giving a backhanded compliment or what. I've been pretty
    impressed with Boonen's ability to not only shoulder the responsibility that
    comes with being a world-class cyclist, but also maintain the required sense
    of, what, respect from the rest of the peloton without coming across as a
    total jerk?

    Absolutely, but you have to see that it can't be easy with everyone
    depending on Tom to win every time out. That's what drove the later
    issue Museeuw eventually to take dope - to satisfy his fans cause you
    know that after you're taking dope you sure as hell can't impress
    yourself any more.

    Devolder is in the same position. He's good but cycling doesn't let
    good be good - the fans demand perfection. When they start throwing
    money at Devolder he gets the idea that he's special. Luckily cycling
    has a way of dealing with "special" people.

  11. Charles said:

    On Sep 9, 6:01 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:> I wonder if Devolder had any excuses for breaking down on the climb like he

    Quoted message said:

    did.

    I wonder if Kunich had any excuses for getting dropped from the
    touring club ride ? Maybe they will not renew his "contract".

    Devolder "dead tired"
    Stijn Devolder is "tired, dead tired." The Discovery Channel rider who
    lost the Vuelta a España's leader's jersey after holding it for one
    day has now fallen to tenth place overall and has given up all hope of
    finishing on the podium.
    "I don't feel my legs any more," the 28 year-old told Het Nieuwsblad
    after stage 10. "My legs feel bad. I have ridden too much this
    season." He is still planning to ride the World Championships, but
    that will be the end of his season.
    "I am glad that today is the rest day," he noted. "I can load my
    batteries again."

    When Devolder beat the likes of Evans and Menchov and some other great
    time trialists on Saturday, I thought he would hold his advantage. But
    it seemed he was just missing a little bit of energy on that Hors de
    Categorie, right at the beginning of the climb. Sastre's team attacked
    from the very first moment. I don't think Devolder was expecting such
    a ferocious assault. I don't even think TD would have been able to
    help him.
    He lost 5 minutes, and then the next day he lost 2 minutes. If he
    would have been able to minimize his losses to a minute per stage he
    would only be 1 minute and a half down on Menchov right now. It's too
    bad, I really thought he had it. But like someone said in this group,
    they really put a lot of pressure on the riders to excel and win it
    all. But I think he still has done a pretty good job this year. Let's
    hope he keeps his head and manages to improve a little at a time.
    Maybe some great things will be in store for him next year. Who knows,
    he may still win the world championship road race this year.

    Andre

Active in the last 60 minutes

Active in this thread

0 users · 0 guests ·0 bots ·0 total

No signed-in users are active right now.

No known search crawlers active right now.