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  1. I bought the Garmin Forerunner 205 and it's really cool. But last
    night, after my ride, I hit (what I thought was) the "stop" button and
    came inside an all evidence of the ride I'd just been on was gone.

    Did I hit reset accidentally? Does pressing "mode" do that? I know it
    was recording during the ride. Is there some too-easy thing I pressed
    to erase the ride info?

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  2. I have a Garmin. You need to press at least two buttons in sequence to
    clear important records. It will be in there somewhere.

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  3. I too have a Forerunner 205. As far as I know, -holding down- the
    lap/reset button is the only way to reset the thing. Pressing "mode"
    swaps between the timers, maps and menus, but doesn't affect any of the
    stats even while ticking the time.

    Even if you did hold lap/reset and reset the totals to zero, you can
    still go into the "History" menus and call up the total times of the
    ride you just did, and all the rides you did before (memory
    permitting).

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    gkmac

    "Those who can, do. Those who can't, take the pictures." - tomblackwood
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  4. Hook it up to your software and see if the ride appears there. It should
    still be in the memory as Mikefule and gkmac mentioned.

    I have the 305. The only weird thing mine has done is last Sunday,
    while JC and I were Cokering the Portland Bridge Pedal, I was fumbling
    with the bottons and got a "low battery emergency shutdown" warning, or
    something like that. I turned it back on and all was fine, just
    re-started the timer and it continued on as if nothing happened.

    I thought maybe the battery was low because I had used it for about 4
    hours of Summer Skiing on Mt. Hood the day before. The battery had
    plenty of charge left and no problems for the rest of the weekend.

    --
    UniBrier

    Steve

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  5. Apparently (after reading the manual - there's an idea!) if one presses
    "mode" and "lap" buttons at the same time, the thing shuts down
    immediately. I think I may have accidently done this.

    The ride was not in the history. I was a very non-epic ride, so it's
    no big deal.

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    steveyo

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  6. I've noticed some strange goings on with the elevations recorded by my
    new GPS.

    When I upload to the Garmin software, the elevation change (of last
    night's ride) was 1600 ft or so. The ride was a hilly muni ride, but I
    didn't think there was nearly that much vertical change.

    Then, worse still, when I go to motionbased.com, the ride stats say
    2600 vertical. Does anyone else get a discrepency between the Garmin
    uploaded vertical and the motionbased uploaded vertical?

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  7. I haven't compared Garmin to Motion Based yet. Last Saturday's ride
    involved a 3 mile ride (at least JC rode it, for others it involved
    some hiking) up the fire road with approx 1000+ feet elevation gain .
    The rest of the ride was 3-4 miles of downhill, mostly under heavy tree
    cover.

    The cumulative elevation gain/losss couldn't have been more than 1,300
    feet by my 305 says over 3,000 feet of ascent and descent. Satelite
    based elevation is clearly not accurate in heavy tree cover. But, the
    track looks pretty good.

    --
    UniBrier

    Steve

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  8. steveyo said:

    I've noticed some strange goings on with the elevations recorded by my
    new GPS. When I upload to the Garmin software, the elevation change (of
    last night's ride) was 1600 ft or so. The ride was a hilly muni ride,
    but I didn't think there was nearly that much vertical change.
    Then, worse still, when I go to motionbased.com, the ride stats say
    2600 vertical. Does anyone else get a discrepency between the Garmin
    uploaded vertical and the motionbased uploaded vertical?

    The elevation feature via the Garmin GPS (or pretty much any GPS) is
    not super accurate. It seems to be LEAST accurate on long relatively
    flat rides. If you're doing a ride with big hills, it's more accurate.
    In all cases, the default technology over-estimates the actual
    elevation you've climbed or descended.

    MotionBased has a "elevation correction" option called MB Gravity,
    which helps a lot but is still not fully accurate. But it's a bunch
    more accurate. I've seen it actually take 1,000 feet plus off of my
    original data, where I had done a 20+ mile very flat ride that Garmin
    said involved 1,400 feet of climbing. You can select it after
    uploading your ride, under Activity Options.

    It could be that the reason you're seeing two different figures is that
    your MotionBased setup is applying MB Gravity be default. Are the MB
    numbers always lower than your Garmin Training Center numbers? If so,
    that's the likely cause.

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  9. tomblackwood said:

    MotionBased has a "elevation correction" option called MB Gravity, which
    helps a lot but is still not fully accurate. But it's a bunch more
    accurate. I've seen it actually take 1,000 feet plus off of my
    original data, where I had done a 20+ mile very flat ride that Garmin
    said involved 1,400 feet of climbing. You can select it after
    uploading your ride, under Activity Options.

    It could be that the reason you're seeing two different figures is that
    your MotionBased setup is applying MB Gravity be default. Are the MB
    numbers always lower than your Garmin Training Center numbers? If so,
    that's the likely cause.

    Actually, the MB fihure has been up to 1000 ft MORE Than the Garmin
    number. Odd. I'll check ou thte MB Gravity thing.

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  10. There's a lot of good info in 'this thread '
    (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51301)about
    elevation innacuracies, particularly with the Garmin Forerunner in
    mind.

    STM

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  11. If none of that helps, I work at Halfords, I could always ask one of the
    guys downstairs who's a specialist in this field any questions you
    might need answering?

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  12. I have a Garmin forerunner 301 that I got for running and I find it
    quite accurate. I also find that it is virtually impossible to reset
    without holding for 5 seconds or more. The elevation numbers seem to be
    quite good sofar and I love the features.

    I do think that it sucks that you buy that expensive of a peice of
    equipment and then have to pay to upgrade your subscription to
    Motionbased.

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