20 year old orthotics?

Fountainhead said:

when I was a young buck.

Did you grow into a full size buck? Or get shot during hunting season?

Fountainhead said:

I had orthotics made back in the mid 80's, when I was a young buck. They are "Sporthotics", from
the Langer Group. They are the kind that extend from the heel throught the arch, and stop just
short of the ball of the foot. I had them made at the time as I suffered chronic posterior shin
splints due to excessive pronation.

Fast forward to today, and I've taken up running once again. Even though I'm just starting out,
I'm already noticing some mild soreness in that area...not anything serious yet, but it certainly
feels very familiar.

Do you know what is causing it? In most cases, orthotics treat symptoms, not the cause, but there
are exceptions. Sometimes exercises *may* be able to correct some biomechanical issues and might be
better in long term - but not always.

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I'm already wearing a motion control shoe. I'm staring at the old orthotics. Is there any reason
NOT to try these again after so much time? They still feel "right" on my feet.

I'm just guessing, not a doctor, etc., but you might go ahead and try them. When you had them
initially, were these just worn when you ran or all the time? I'd use that as a guideline. FWIW, I
used orthotics in motion control shoes for several years, then PT switched me to stability shoe
since it controlled pronation where I needed it (motion control shoe was rigid where I didn't need
it, and little support where I needed
it).

And I don't recall whether one

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uses the orthotic in addition to the shoes normal insole, or whether on replaces the shoe's
insole. It seems to me that replacing the insole causes you to lose forefoot cusioning.

Your situation may differ, but I use my 3/4 length (same length as yours) on top the standard insole
that came with the shoe to have the forefoot cushioning. Other people may replace the standard
insole with a different one, then use their orthotic. A lot depends on the type insole that came
with the shoe and what's under there. Sometimes the height of the orthotic over an insole makes the
shoe unstable in the heel. You'll have to see what works for you.

Also, have there been any

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advances in orthotics over the years, or are they still pretty much like my old Sporthotics?
Thanks for any advice.

I'm guessing there's been many advances in orthotics over the years - like everything else -
including controversy about best way to fit them
- dynamic, weighted static mold, unweighted static mold, etc - not to mention off the shelf
orthotics and a whole slew of kinds in between custom and off the shelf.

Dot

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"Success is different things to different people" -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

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Is there any reason NOT to try these again after so much time?

Not at all. I regularly consume food that's twenty years old, drive a Mercedes sports car built in
'64, and live in a house erected in the late 1870's. I seem to be doing ok, why shouldn't you?

Roger.

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Not at all. I regularly consume food that's twenty years old, drive a Mercedes sports car built in
'64, and live in a house erected in the late 1870's. I seem to be doing ok, why shouldn't you?

Well, see that's the problem. I never eat leftovers more than a day old, I trade my cars in every
three years, and I once had a 60 year old home, but I got tired of fixing stuff so I build a new
one. About the only 20- year old thing that appeals to me is the blonde, perky-breasted babysitter,
and she won't have me. (Perfectly understandable, of course.) Certainly you can see my dilemma.

By the way, in another thread, you called me a "fat ass". I'm starting to feel a bit
rejected. *sniff*

-Fountainhead

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By the way, in another thread, you called me a "fat ass". I'm starting to feel a bit
rejected. *sniff*

You should never take anything I say personally. In fact, you probably shouldn't listen to anything
I say at all. I'm just a helpless fool with too much time and too little real work to occupy my day.
Can we feel rejected *together*?

Roger.

And while you're at it, you may as well dust off the old hernia truss too.

Looks like Asparagus has met his match...

Fountainhead said:

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Not at all. I regularly consume food that's twenty years old, drive a Mercedes sports car built
in '64, and live in a house erected in the late 1870's. I seem to be doing ok, why shouldn't you?

Well, see that's the problem. I never eat leftovers more than a day old, I trade my cars in every
three years, and I once had a 60 year old home, but I got tired of fixing stuff so I build a new
one. About the only 20- year old thing that appeals to me is the blonde, perky-breasted babysitter,
and she won't have me. (Perfectly understandable, of course.) Certainly you can see my dilemma.

By the way, in another thread, you called me a "fat ass". I'm starting to feel a bit
rejected. *sniff*

-Fountainhead

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I'm just a helpless fool with too much time and too little real work to occupy my day.

BWAH! We must be related.

-Fountainhead

you. But don't feel too special, we've all had him.

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By the way, in another thread, you called me a "fat ass". I'm starting to feel a bit rejected.
*sniff*

You should never take anything I say personally. In fact, you probably shouldn't listen to anything
I say at all. I'm just a helpless fool with too much time and too little real work to occupy my
day. Can we feel rejected *together*?

Roger.

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Fountainhead said:

I had orthotics made back in the mid 80's, when I was a young buck. They are "Sporthotics", from
the Langer Group. They are the kind that extend from the heel throught the arch, and stop just
short of the ball of the foot. I had them made at the time as I suffered chronic posterior shin
splints due to excessive pronation.

Fast forward to today, and I've taken up running once again. Even though I'm just starting out,
I'm already noticing some mild soreness in that area...not anything serious yet, but it
certainly feels very familiar.

Do you know what is causing it? In most cases, orthotics treat symptoms, not the cause, but there
are exceptions. Sometimes exercises *may* be able to correct some biomechanical issues and might
be better in long term - but not always.

Second this advice. Consider exercises for shin splints, see:
sportsinjurybulletin.comleg.phpOpen ↗

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I'm already wearing a motion control shoe. I'm staring at the old orthotics. Is there any reason
NOT to try these again after so much time? They still feel "right" on my feet.

I'm just guessing, not a doctor, etc., but you might go ahead and try them. When you had them
initially, were these just worn when you ran or all the time? I'd use that as a guideline. FWIW, I
used orthotics in motion control shoes for several years, then PT switched me to stability shoe
since it controlled pronation where I needed it (motion control shoe was rigid where I didn't need
it, and little support where I needed
it).

And I don't recall whether one

Quoted message said:

uses the orthotic in addition to the shoes normal insole, or whether on replaces the shoe's
insole. It seems to me that replacing the insole causes you to lose forefoot cusioning.

Your situation may differ, but I use my 3/4 length (same length as yours) on top the standard
insole that came with the shoe to have the forefoot cushioning. Other people may replace the
standard insole with a different one, then use their orthotic. A lot depends on the type insole
that came with the shoe and what's under there. Sometimes the height of the orthotic over an
insole makes the shoe unstable in the heel. You'll have to see what works for you.

Also, have there been any

Quoted message said:

advances in orthotics over the years, or are they still pretty much like my old Sporthotics?
Thanks for any advice.

I'm guessing there's been many advances in orthotics over the years - like everything else -
including controversy about best way to fit them
- dynamic, weighted static mold, unweighted static mold, etc - not to mention off the shelf
orthotics and a whole slew of kinds in between custom and off the shelf.

Dot

--
"Success is different things to different people" -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

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Is there any reason NOT to try these again after so much time?

Not at all. I regularly consume food that's twenty years old,

From the thift shop.

He wishes he drove a

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Mercedes sports car built in '64,

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and live near a house erected in the late 1870's. I seem to be doing ok,

As a failed web designer.