WTB: F-40

Alma Williams said:

WTB: Lightning F-40, Size medium, in good repair.

It is my understanding that with a replacement boom [1] any P-38 can become an F-40 chassis. A
friend of mine bought a P-38 and the F-40 fairing separately (both used).

[1] The boom has a braze-on that the front fairing mounts to.

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

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Alma Williams said:

WTB: Lightning F-40, Size medium, in good repair.

It is my understanding that with a replacement boom [1] any P-38 can become an F-40 chassis. A
friend of mine bought a P-38 and the F-40 fairing separately (both used).

[1] The boom has a braze-on that the front fairing mounts to.

Then there is the matter of the brazons for the rear disk brake. But then my (F-40) Voyager does not
have the the disk brakes since that is incompatible with the Voyager Option
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Alma Williams said:

WTB: Lightning F-40, Size medium, in good repair.

It is my understanding that with a replacement boom [1] any P-38 can become an F-40 chassis. A
friend of mine bought a P-38 and the F-40 fairing separately (both used).

[1] The boom has a braze-on that the front fairing mounts to.

Then there is the matter of the brazons for the rear disk brake. But then my (F-40) Voyager does
not have the the disk brakes since that is incompatible with the Voyager Option

I believe that the disc brakes on the F-40 are a recent addition - the older F-40's did not have
them. They are probably a good idea for anyone riding the bike in hilly or mountainous terrain -
Zach Kaplan reported getting the pads on a front Magura hydraulic caliper hot enough to smoke (and
the rim hot enough to boil water) when descending on a fully-faired bike (F-40 fairing on a
Lightning Stealth chassis IIRC).

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

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Alma Williams wrote:
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> WTB: Lightning F-40, Size medium, in good repair.

It is my understanding that with a replacement boom [1] any P-38 can become an F-40 chassis. A
friend of mine bought a P-38 and the F-40 fairing separately (both used).

[1] The boom has a braze-on that the front fairing mounts to.

Then there is the matter of the brazons for the rear disk brake. But then my (F-40) Voyager does
not have the the disk brakes since that is incompatible with the Voyager Option

I believe that the disc brakes on the F-40 are a recent addition - the older F-40's did not have
them. They are probably a good idea for anyone riding the bike in hilly or mountainous terrain -
Zach Kaplan reported getting the pads on a front Magura hydraulic caliper hot enough to smoke (and
the rim hot enough to boil water) when descending on a fully-faired bike (F-40 fairing on a
Lightning Stealth chassis IIRC).

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

Tom:

The brake overheating situation you referred to above happened with a front Mathauser hydraulic
caliper brake on a P-38 based F-40 and on an R-84 based F-40. In the case of the R-84 it happened
while the Mathauser brake was being used in place of the AMP Disc brake I originally used which was
even less up to the task of dealing with brake heat on a fully faired bike than the rim brakes.

Zach Kaplan

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Then there is the matter of the brazons for the rear disk brake. But then my (F-40) Voyager does
not have the the disk brakes since that is incompatible with the Voyager Option

Why? Couldn't you just use a cable-operated disk brake?

Jeff

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Then there is the matter of the brazons for the rear disk brake. But then my (F-40) Voyager does
not have the the disk brakes since that is incompatible with the Voyager Option

Why? Couldn't you just use a cable-operated disk brake?

Wheels with Disk Brakes no matter how they are actuated do not fit into the S&S travelcase. I also
suspect that there is no room for the 'seat' stay mounted brake itself.
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- Bellaire, TX USA -

Zach Kaplan Cycles said:

Tom:

The brake overheating situation you referred to above happened with a front Mathauser hydraulic
caliper brake on a P-38 based F-40 and on an R-84 based F-40. In the case of the R-84 it
happened while the Mathauser brake was being used in place of the AMP Disc brake I originally
used which was even less up to the task of dealing with brake heat on a fully faired bike than
the rim brakes.

Zach Kaplan

It would appear that tandem rated disc brakes would be a good idea on an F-40 (or similar bike) when
ridden in terrain with significant vertical relief.

Scary thought: fully faired M5 Lowracer with the caliper brakes and thumb operated levers.

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth