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Michelle said:

Wednesday is my short run (two miles at present); I've been doing it for
speed, although next week, I'm going to incorporate hill training
instead of speed in it.

Anyway, two weeks ago, I did it in 26:15; last week was 26:34. Today, I
did it in 25:31.

--
Crossing the starting line is 90%.
Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.

Is this an attempt to get get a PR on this run every week?

John

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runsrealfast said:

Quoted message said:

Wednesday is my short run (two miles at present); I've been doing
it for speed, although next week, I'm going to incorporate hill
training instead of speed in it.

Anyway, two weeks ago, I did it in 26:15; last week was 26:34.
Today, I did it in 25:31.

Is this an attempt to get get a PR on this run every week?

No. I try to run at what is a comfortable pace for the distance. Next
week will definitely be slower because I'll be running hills for the
same distance and won't be trying for speed. It just felt more
comfortable today to run a bit faster than it did last Wed, or the Wed
before. It might be because I tried a new route today.

--
Crossing the starting line is 90%.
Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.

Michelle said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

runsrealfast said:

Quoted message said:

Wednesday is my short run (two miles at present); I've been doing
it for speed, although next week, I'm going to incorporate hill
training instead of speed in it.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Anyway, two weeks ago, I did it in 26:15; last week was 26:34.
Today, I did it in 25:31.

Quoted message said:

Is this an attempt to get get a PR on this run every week?

No. I try to run at what is a comfortable pace for the distance. Next
week will definitely be slower because I'll be running hills for the
same distance and won't be trying for speed. It just felt more
comfortable today to run a bit faster than it did last Wed, or the Wed
before. It might be because I tried a new route today.

I sometimes have a hard time comparing the same distance on different
routes. To many factors, hills, running surface, animals, vehicles can
all play a factor in the speed of the run. I usually like to compare
routes more than distances.

John

Michelle said:

Wednesday is my short run (two miles at present); I've been doing it for
speed, although next week, I'm going to incorporate hill training
instead of speed in it.

Anyway, two weeks ago, I did it in 26:15; last week was 26:34. Today, I
did it in 25:31.

--
Crossing the starting line is 90%.
Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.

Are you running or walking?

Two miles at 25:31 sounds more like a walk than anything else.

If you really are jogging or running at that pace something doesn't
sound right. Maybe some other form of exercise might be more
beneficial.

Quoted message said:

Michelle said:

Wednesday is my short run (two miles at present); I've been doing it for
speed, although next week, I'm going to incorporate hill training
instead of speed in it.

Anyway, two weeks ago, I did it in 26:15; last week was 26:34. Today, I
did it in 25:31.

--
Crossing the starting line is 90%.
Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.

Are you running or walking?

Two miles at 25:31 sounds more like a walk than anything else.

If you really are jogging or running at that pace something doesn't
sound right. Maybe some other form of exercise might be more
beneficial.

Them is fighting words John. Careful or you will incur the wrath
of ........
Check some of the more ancient posts that were not removed to
understand the nature of what you are dealing with here.

Al Bundy said:

Quoted message said:

Michelle said:

Wednesday is my short run (two miles at present); I've been doing it for
speed, although next week, I'm going to incorporate hill training
instead of speed in it.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Anyway, two weeks ago, I did it in 26:15; last week was 26:34. Today, I
did it in 25:31.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

--
Crossing the starting line is 90%.
Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.

Quoted message said:

Are you running or walking?

Quoted message said:

Two miles at 25:31 sounds more like a walk than anything else.

Quoted message said:

If you really are jogging or running at that pace something doesn't
sound right. Maybe some other form of exercise might be more
beneficial.

Them is fighting words John. Careful or you will incur the wrath
of ........
Check some of the more ancient posts that were not removed to
understand the nature of what you are dealing with here.

Real long time runner here. New here on this board for a specific
question. Not likely to hang out here much anway.

No idea what you are referring to anyhow. Give me a specific term to
search for and I might look at some old posts.

Maybe the "jogging" word? I don't like it much myself but you know it
certainly does apply at some point when you go above 9 or 10 minutes a
mile ( and those times were way slower than that ). Or the "walking"
word?

Sorry no clue.

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Quoted message said:

Are you running or walking?

Two miles at 25:31 sounds more like a walk than anything else.

If you really are jogging or running at that pace something doesn't
sound right. Maybe some other form of exercise might be more
beneficial.

I'm running; I'm 64 years old and have been running for about a year,
except that I injured my right quad in January and had to stop running
for about six or seven weeks, and then had to start over.

And yes, some speed walkers can walk faster than I can run. But I'm
still able to do a 5K race at a 13:15 to 13:30 pace, which is faster
than some of the other runners in the race.

But I enjoy running, despite my being a slow runner, and pardon me if I
ignore your suggestion to engage in some other form of exercise.

In October, I will run in a half marathon, and even if I come in last, I
will have run it, which is more than what can be said about 90+% of the
population.

--
Crossing the starting line is 90%.
Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.

Michelle said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

Are you running or walking?

Quoted message said:

Two miles at 25:31 sounds more like a walk than anything else.

Quoted message said:

If you really are jogging or running at that pace something doesn't
sound right. Maybe some other form of exercise might be more
beneficial.

I'm running; I'm 64 years old and have been running for about a year,
except that I injured my right quad in January and had to stop running
for about six or seven weeks, and then had to start over.

And yes, some speed walkers can walk faster than I can run. But I'm
still able to do a 5K race at a 13:15 to 13:30 pace, which is faster
than some of the other runners in the race.

But I enjoy running, despite my being a slow runner, and pardon me if I
ignore your suggestion to engage in some other form of exercise.

In October, I will run in a half marathon, and even if I come in last, I
will have run it, which is more than what can be said about 90+% of the
population.

you go girl!

runsrealfast said:

Michelle said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Are you running or walking?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Two miles at 25:31 sounds more like a walk than anything else.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If you really are jogging or running at that pace something doesn't
sound right. Maybe some other form of exercise might be more
beneficial.

Quoted message said:

I'm running; I'm 64 years old and have been running for about a year,
except that I injured my right quad in January and had to stop running
for about six or seven weeks, and then had to start over.

Quoted message said:

And yes, some speed walkers can walk faster than I can run. But I'm
still able to do a 5K race at a 13:15 to 13:30 pace, which is faster
than some of the other runners in the race.

Quoted message said:

But I enjoy running, despite my being a slow runner, and pardon me if I
ignore your suggestion to engage in some other form of exercise.

Quoted message said:

In October, I will run in a half marathon, and even if I come in last, I
will have run it, which is more than what can be said about 90+% of the
population.

you go girl!

"you go girl!" ????? ORLY

In article <[email hidden]>,

Al Bundy said:

Quoted message said:

you go girl!

"you go girl!" ????? ORLY

Well, at age 64, I'm not exactly a girl, but "you go woman" just doesn't
have the ring.

--
Crossing the starting line is 90%.
Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.

Michelle said:

I'm running; I'm 64 years old and have been running for about a year,
except that I injured my right quad in January and had to stop running
for about six or seven weeks, and then had to start over.

And yes, some speed walkers can walk faster than I can run. But I'm
still able to do a 5K race at a 13:15 to 13:30 pace, which is faster
than some of the other runners in the race.

Other runners slower than 13 minutes a mile?

Speed walkers I think can finish a 5k in 20 minutes or maybe under
( or maybe that's race walkers if there's some kind of difference in
those categories ).

Quoted message said:

But I enjoy running, despite my being a slow runner, and pardon me if I
ignore your suggestion to engage in some other form of exercise.

In October, I will run in a half marathon, and even if I come in last, I
will have run it, which is more than what can be said about 90+% of the
population.

If you are enjoying what you are doing then have fun. I don't
advocate participating in a half marathon and anticipating coming in
last. There's lots of opportunities to run those types of distances
not in a race situation until one is comfortable.

Race organizers struggle with decisions like how long to keep a course
open, trying to keep participants safe, keep volunteers at water
stops, etc. People that are not able to sustain a pace within a
couple of standard deviations of the average pose opportunities that
must be dealt with.

The longer the event the more significant those types of challenges
are. In other words, the dynamics of a 5k are much different in these
regards than a half marathon.

Of course those types of considerations do become less significant
when the number of participants gets above a certain factor.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

And yes, some speed walkers can walk faster than I can run. But
I'm still able to do a 5K race at a 13:15 to 13:30 pace, which is
faster than some of the other runners in the race.

Other runners slower than 13 minutes a mile?

Yup. In last Saturday's race, I was 606th of 645, 252 of 284 women, and
8 of 9 in age group.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

In October, I will run in a half marathon, and even if I come in
last, I will have run it, which is more than what can be said about
90+% of the population.

If you are enjoying what you are doing then have fun. I don't
advocate participating in a half marathon and anticipating coming in
last.

I do not anticipate coming in last. I said, "even if I come in last..."

Quoted message said:

There's lots of opportunities to run those types of distances not in
a race situation until one is comfortable.

One's finishing position does not necessarily have anything to do with
one's comfort level.

Quoted message said:

Race organizers struggle with decisions like how long to keep a
course open, trying to keep participants safe, keep volunteers at
water stops, etc. People that are not able to sustain a pace within
a couple of standard deviations of the average pose opportunities
that must be dealt with.

I'll be finishing way before the course is closed. There's a full
marathon being run at the same time.

But why are you so concerned about my pace what kind of races I run in?

--
Crossing the starting line is 90%.
Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.

"Michelle" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

But why are you so concerned about my pace what kind of races I run in?

Hey Michelle, don't let them grind you down. Sheesh, what snobs...

From what I remember of your training, your heartrate is higher than mine
when you run. You're getting into shape and working at it, that's what
counts.

-- Dan

Michelle said:

Well, at age 64, I'm not exactly a girl,

Tranny.

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D Stumpus said:

Quoted message said:

But why are you so concerned about my pace what kind of races I run
in?

Hey Michelle, don't let them grind you down. Sheesh, what snobs...

I don't. I really am curious, though, as to why he is so interested.
He's not an obnoxious [censored] like MAT or imustfreecycle.

Quoted message said:

From what I remember of your training, your heartrate is higher than
mine when you run. You're getting into shape and working at it,
that's what counts.

My HR has dropped considerably; it had been in the low to mid 160s when
I was doing the Couch to 5K plan; it's now in the mid 140s to low 150s
on much longer runs.

Thanks for the encouragement and the kind words.

--
Crossing the starting line is 90%.
Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.