Road Test

A Muzi said:

A great piece of writing:http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2007/08/bsnyc-2008-dream-bike-shootou...

--
Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

LOL!!! Thanks for posting that.

A Muzi said:

A great piece of writing:http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2007/08/bsnyc-2008-dream-bike-shootou...

"The Redbook of cycling."

Harsh! He he!

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A Muzi said:

A great piece of writing: >>

http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2007/08/bsnyc-2008-dream-bike-shootout.html

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--
Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Ozark Bicycle said:

LOL!!! Thanks for posting that.

Could someone younger/smarter explain why my sig.txt shows as 3 lines
usually but sometimes 2? It's a text file with <cr> after each line.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:34:24 -0500, A Muzi <[email hidden]>

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A Muzi said:

A great piece of writing: >>

http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2007/08/bsnyc-2008-dream-bike-shootout.html

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--
Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Ozark Bicycle said:

LOL!!! Thanks for posting that.

Could someone younger/smarter explain why my sig.txt shows as 3 lines
usually but sometimes 2? It's a text file with <cr> after each line.

Dear Andrew,

Your posts take different paths to reach nirvana.

Someone in this path may be goofing the URL for Yellow Jersey and
joining it to your last name:

border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!news2.google.com!news.glorb.com!sn-xt-sjc-05!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail

You might try putting <www.yellowjersey.org> in <brackets>, putting a
space or two in front of www.yellowjersey.org, or putting a blank line
above the www.yellowjersey.org.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

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A Muzi said:

A great piece of writing: >>

http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2007/08/bsnyc-2008-dream-bike-shootout.html

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--
Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Ozark Bicycle said:

LOL!!! Thanks for posting that.

Could someone younger/smarter explain why my sig.txt shows as 3 lines
usually but sometimes 2? It's a text file with <cr> after each line.

I always see 3 lines.

Anyway, that article is hilarious.

Does anyone else find upward curving top tubes ugly as hell?

Greg

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Ticketmaster and Ticketweb suck, but everyone knows that:
http://ticketmastersucks.org

Dethink to survive - Mclusky

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:32:20 -0700, "G.T." <[email hidden]>

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"A Muzi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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A Muzi <[email hidden]> wrote:
> A great piece of writing: >>

http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2007/08/bsnyc-2008-dream-bike-shootout.html

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> --
> Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Ozark Bicycle said:

LOL!!! Thanks for posting that.

Could someone younger/smarter explain why my sig.txt shows as 3 lines
usually but sometimes 2? It's a text file with <cr> after each line.

I always see 3 lines.

Anyway, that article is hilarious.

Does anyone else find upward curving top tubes ugly as hell?

Greg

Dear Greg,

I see two in Andrew's example, getting the post from the Comcast
server with Forte Free Agent.

Same thing if you look at the thread through Google Groups with
Explorer or Firefox--three lines in the original post, but only two in
when it's quoted in later posts:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/68f14a23fec319f9/a115812e7d131dd3#a115812e7d131dd3

Looking at other posts, the same pattern seems to follow--originals
have three lines, quotation turns them into two lines.

I've noticed a similar pattern in my posts. I skip a line before
URL's, as above with the long one and like this short one:

http://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg

In a moment, I'll reply to this post as see if the URL's lose their
preceding blank line. If so, then this should illustrate the bug by
joining Andrew's last name to the URL on the next line:

Muzi
http://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:32:20 -0700, "G.T." <[email hidden]>

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"A Muzi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> A Muzi <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> A great piece of writing: >>
http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2007/08/bsnyc-2008-dream-bike-shootout.html
>> --
>> Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Ozark Bicycle wrote:
> LOL!!! Thanks for posting that.

Could someone younger/smarter explain why my sig.txt shows as 3 lines
usually but sometimes 2? It's a text file with <cr> after each line.

I always see 3 lines.

Anyway, that article is hilarious.

Does anyone else find upward curving top tubes ugly as hell?

Greg

Dear Greg,

I see two in Andrew's example, getting the post from the Comcast
server with Forte Free Agent.

Same thing if you look at the thread through Google Groups with
Explorer or Firefox--three lines in the original post, but only two in
when it's quoted in later posts:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/68f14a23fec319f9/a115812e7d131dd3#a115812e7d131dd3

Looking at other posts, the same pattern seems to follow--originals
have three lines, quotation turns them into two lines.

I've noticed a similar pattern in my posts. I skip a line before
URL's, as above with the long one and like this short one:

http://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg

In a moment, I'll reply to this post as see if the URL's lose their
preceding blank line. If so, then this should illustrate the bug by
joining Andrew's last name to the URL on the next line:

Muzi
http://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

Now let's see what a reply does . . .

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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:32:20 -0700, "G.T." <[email hidden]>

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"A Muzi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
>> A Muzi <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>> A great piece of writing: >>
> http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2007/08/bsnyc-2008-dream-bike-shootout.html
>>> --
>>> Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>
> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
>> LOL!!! Thanks for posting that.
>
> Could someone younger/smarter explain why my sig.txt shows as 3 lines
> usually but sometimes 2? It's a text file with <cr> after each line.

I always see 3 lines.

Anyway, that article is hilarious.

Does anyone else find upward curving top tubes ugly as hell?

Greg

Dear Greg,

I see two in Andrew's example, getting the post from the Comcast
server with Forte Free Agent.

Same thing if you look at the thread through Google Groups with
Explorer or Firefox--three lines in the original post, but only two in
when it's quoted in later posts:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/68f14a23fec319f9/a115812e7d131dd3#a115812e7d131dd3

Looking at other posts, the same pattern seems to follow--originals
have three lines, quotation turns them into two lines.

I've noticed a similar pattern in my posts. I skip a line before
URL's, as above with the long one and like this short one:

http://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg

In a moment, I'll reply to this post as see if the URL's lose their
preceding blank line. If so, then this should illustrate the bug by
joining Andrew's last name to the URL on the next line:

Muzi
http://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

Now let's see what a reply does . . .

Nope, didn't work through Forte and Comcast, so I'll try a reply
through Google Groups.

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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:32:20 -0700, "G.T." <[email hidden]>

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"A Muzi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

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> A Muzi <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> A great piece of writing: >>
http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2007/08/bsnyc-2008-dream-bike-shootou...
>> --
>> Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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Ozark Bicycle wrote:
> LOL!!! Thanks for posting that.

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Quoted message said:

Could someone younger/smarter explain why my sig.txt shows as 3 lines
usually but sometimes 2? It's a text file with <cr> after each line.

Quoted message said:

I always see 3 lines.

Quoted message said:

Anyway, that article is hilarious.

Quoted message said:

Does anyone else find upward curving top tubes ugly as hell?

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Greg

Dear Greg,

I see two in Andrew's example, getting the post from the Comcast
server with Forte Free Agent.

Same thing if you look at the thread through Google Groups with
Explorer or Firefox--three lines in the original post, but only two in
when it's quoted in later posts:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/68...

Looking at other posts, the same pattern seems to follow--originals
have three lines, quotation turns them into two lines.

I've noticed a similar pattern in my posts. I skip a line before
URL's, as above with the long one and like this short one:

http://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg

In a moment, I'll reply to this post as see if the URL's lose their
preceding blank line. If so, then this should illustrate the bug by
joining Andrew's last name to the URL on the next line:

Muzihttp://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg

Cheers,

Carl Fogel- Hide quoted text -

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Test reply through Google Groups . . .

G.T. said:

I always see 3 lines.

Anyway, that article is hilarious.

Does anyone else find upward curving top tubes ugly as hell?

Greg

This one is even more homely (found via a link down in the same blog).

http://velospace.org/node/4541

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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:32:20 -0700, "G.T." <[email hidden]>

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"A Muzi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
>> A Muzi <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>> A great piece of writing: >>
>http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2007/08/bsnyc-2008-dream-bike-shootou...
>>> --
>>> Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
>> LOL!!! Thanks for posting that.

Quoted message said:

> Could someone younger/smarter explain why my sig.txt shows as 3 lines
> usually but sometimes 2? It's a text file with <cr> after each line.

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I always see 3 lines.

Quoted message said:

Anyway, that article is hilarious.

Quoted message said:

Does anyone else find upward curving top tubes ugly as hell?

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Greg

Dear Greg,

I see two in Andrew's example, getting the post from the Comcast
server with Forte Free Agent.

Same thing if you look at the thread through Google Groups with
Explorer or Firefox--three lines in the original post, but only two in
when it's quoted in later posts:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/68...

Looking at other posts, the same pattern seems to follow--originals
have three lines, quotation turns them into two lines.

I've noticed a similar pattern in my posts. I skip a line before
URL's, as above with the long one and like this short one:

http://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg

In a moment, I'll reply to this post as see if the URL's lose their
preceding blank line. If so, then this should illustrate the bug by
joining Andrew's last name to the URL on the next line:

Muzihttp://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg

Cheers,

Carl Fogel- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Test reply through Google Groups . . .

Aha! Replying through Google Groups provokes the bug.

Note how the two-line Muzi<cr>http://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg above
has been joined as Muzihttp://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg.

Apparently when Google quotes, a bug strips out a <CR> preceding a
URL.

So let's see if anything easy fixes the problem.

This will end up joined when quoted by Google:

Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org

A space might fix it:

Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org

Or brackets:

Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org>

Now I'll post this, then scurry over to Google, reply, and so on.

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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:32:20 -0700, "G.T." <[email hidden]>
wrote:

>"A Muzi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>news:[email hidden]...
>
>>>A Muzi <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>A great piece of writing: >>
>>>
>>http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2007/08/bsnyc-2008-dream-bike-shootou...
>>
>>>>--
>>>>Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
>>>>Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>>>
>>Ozark Bicycle wrote:
>>
>>>LOL!!! Thanks for posting that.
>>
>>Could someone younger/smarter explain why my sig.txt shows as 3 lines
>>usually but sometimes 2? It's a text file with <cr> after each line.
>
>I always see 3 lines.

>Anyway, that article is hilarious.

>Does anyone else find upward curving top tubes ugly as hell?

>Greg

Dear Greg,

I see two in Andrew's example, getting the post from the Comcast
server with Forte Free Agent.

Same thing if you look at the thread through Google Groups with
Explorer or Firefox--three lines in the original post, but only two in
when it's quoted in later posts:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/68...

Looking at other posts, the same pattern seems to follow--originals
have three lines, quotation turns them into two lines.

I've noticed a similar pattern in my posts. I skip a line before
URL's, as above with the long one and like this short one:

http://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg

In a moment, I'll reply to this post as see if the URL's lose their
preceding blank line. If so, then this should illustrate the bug by
joining Andrew's last name to the URL on the next line:

Muzihttp://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg

Cheers,

Carl Fogel- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Test reply through Google Groups . . .

Aha! Replying through Google Groups provokes the bug.

Note how the two-line Muzi<cr>http://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg above
has been joined as Muzihttp://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg.

Apparently when Google quotes, a bug strips out a <CR> preceding a
URL.

So let's see if anything easy fixes the problem.

This will end up joined when quoted by Google:

Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org

A space might fix it:

Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org

Or brackets:

Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org>

Now I'll post this, then scurry over to Google, reply, and so on.

can't wait!

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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:32:20 -0700, "G.T." <[email hidden]>
wrote:

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>"A Muzi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>news:[email hidden]...
>>> A Muzi <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>> A great piece of writing: >>
>>http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2007/08/bsnyc-2008-dream-bike-shootou...
>>>> --
>>>> Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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>> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
>>> LOL!!! Thanks for posting that.

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>> Could someone younger/smarter explain why my sig.txt shows as 3 lines
>> usually but sometimes 2? It's a text file with <cr> after each line.

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>I always see 3 lines.

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>Anyway, that article is hilarious.

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>Does anyone else find upward curving top tubes ugly as hell?

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>Greg

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Dear Greg,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I see two in Andrew's example, getting the post from the Comcast
server with Forte Free Agent.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Same thing if you look at the thread through Google Groups with
Explorer or Firefox--three lines in the original post, but only two in
when it's quoted in later posts:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/68...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Looking at other posts, the same pattern seems to follow--originals
have three lines, quotation turns them into two lines.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I've noticed a similar pattern in my posts. I skip a line before
URL's, as above with the long one and like this short one:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

http://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

In a moment, I'll reply to this post as see if the URL's lose their
preceding blank line. If so, then this should illustrate the bug by
joining Andrew's last name to the URL on the next line:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Muzihttp://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg

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Cheers,

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Carl Fogel- Hide quoted text -

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Test reply through Google Groups . . .

Aha! Replying through Google Groups provokes the bug.

Note how the two-line Muzi<cr>http://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpgabove
has been joined as Muzihttp://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg.

Apparently when Google quotes, a bug strips out a <CR> preceding a
URL.

So let's see if anything easy fixes the problem.

This will end up joined when quoted by Google:

Muziwww.yellowjersey.org

A space might fix it:

Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org

Or brackets:

Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org>

Now I'll post this, then scurry over to Google, reply, and so on.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, a leading space or brackets around the URL stops the Google quote
bug from joining a URL to the preceding line.

A Muzi said:

A great piece of writing:
http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2007/08/bsnyc-2008-dream-bike-shootout.html

Indeed. Immediately forwarded to cycling snobs...

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G.T. said:

I always see 3 lines.

Anyway, that article is hilarious.

Does anyone else find upward curving top tubes ugly as hell?

Greg

This one is even more homely (found via a link down in the same blog).

http://velospace.org/node/4541

I like that one.

Greg

--
Ticketmaster sucks, but everyone knows that:
http://ticketmastersucks.org

Dethink to survive - Mclusky

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:16:26 -0700, "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]>

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A Muzi said:

A great piece of writing:
http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2007/08/bsnyc-2008-dream-bike-shootout.html

Indeed. Immediately forwarded to cycling snobs...

Says a guy who only thinks real cyclists are those kitted up in
athletic cycling-specific clothes and helmet.
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catzz66 said:

G.T. said:

I always see 3 lines.

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Anyway, that article is hilarious.

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Does anyone else find upward curving top tubes ugly as hell?

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Greg

This one is even more homely (found via a link down in the same blog).

http://velospace.org/node/4541

KILL IT! The Oury grips just make it painful. Might work for a
Caribbean hipster or something. Or if an IUD company was your racing
sponsor.

G.T. said:

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This one is even more homely (found via a link down in the same blog).

http://velospace.org/node/4541

I like that one.

Greg

=] He called it Gumby's bike.

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On Aug 16, 2:48 pm, [email hidden] wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:32:20 -0700, "G.T." <[email hidden]>
> wrote:
>> "A Muzi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> news:[email hidden]...
>>>> A Muzi <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>>> A great piece of writing: >>
>>> http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2007/08/bsnyc-2008-dream-bike-shootou...
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
>>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>>> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
>>>> LOL!!! Thanks for posting that.
>>> Could someone younger/smarter explain why my sig.txt shows as 3 lines
>>> usually but sometimes 2? It's a text file with <cr> after each line.
>> I always see 3 lines.
>> Anyway, that article is hilarious.
>> Does anyone else find upward curving top tubes ugly as hell?
>> Greg
> Dear Greg,
> I see two in Andrew's example, getting the post from the Comcast
> server with Forte Free Agent.
> Same thing if you look at the thread through Google Groups with
> Explorer or Firefox--three lines in the original post, but only two in
> when it's quoted in later posts:
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/68...
> Looking at other posts, the same pattern seems to follow--originals
> have three lines, quotation turns them into two lines.
> I've noticed a similar pattern in my posts. I skip a line before
> URL's, as above with the long one and like this short one:
> http://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg
> In a moment, I'll reply to this post as see if the URL's lose their
> preceding blank line. If so, then this should illustrate the bug by
> joining Andrew's last name to the URL on the next line:
> Muzihttp://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg
> Cheers,
> Carl Fogel- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
Test reply through Google Groups . . .

Aha! Replying through Google Groups provokes the bug.

Note how the two-line Muzi<cr>http://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpgabove
has been joined as Muzihttp://i18.tinypic.com/6baor3k.jpg.

Apparently when Google quotes, a bug strips out a <CR> preceding a
URL.

So let's see if anything easy fixes the problem.

This will end up joined when quoted by Google:

Muziwww.yellowjersey.org

A space might fix it:

Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org

Or brackets:

Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org>

Now I'll post this, then scurry over to Google, reply, and so on.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, a leading space or brackets around the URL stops the Google quote
bug from joining a URL to the preceding line.

Damn, Carl you are one dedicated and determined guy!! Thanks so much!
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971