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  1. Not sure if this has been brought up already

    http://www.dft.gov.uk/consultations/open/infrastructuredesign/consultationpaper

  2. Quoted message said:

    Not sure if this has been brought up already

    Good spot Waffles. More stuff on the consultation here:
    <www.dft.gov.uk/consultations/open/infrastructuredesign>

    The consultation finishes on the 5th November and they hope to publish
    the final version out early next year.

    (Comments in square brackets obviously my own):

    The intention of Cycling Infrastructure Design is to bring together
    current Government guidance and advice on providing and planning for
    cycle friendly infrastructure that is already publicly available into one
    document. [Yay]

    The document offers guidance only [bugger] and is primarily intended for
    local authority practitioners and transport planners so that they can
    ensure that cyclists are fully provided for within an integrated
    transport system.

    Purpose of consultation

    The purpose of this consultation is to ensure the final document is
    informed by the experience of a wide range of organisations with an
    interest and in particular those who will use the guidance.

    Consultation audience

    The consultation is aimed at all organisations and individuals who have
    an interest in cycling infrastructure, but particularly those invited to
    respond as part of a peer review of Cycling Infrastructure Design. A
    list of those organisations we have sent this consultation to is included
    in Section 3. Comments are however welcomed from all.

    Organisations Consulted: [wot's a CDT?]

    CDTs (Aylesbury, Brighton, Darlington, Derby, Exeter, Lancaster)

    Cycling England (CE)

    Cyclists' Touring Club (CTC)

    Disabled Persons' Transport Advisory Committee (DipTAC)

    Institute of Highways and Transportation (IHT)

    Local Authority Cycling Association (LACA)

    Local Government Association (LGA)

    Transport for London (TfL)

    Bicycle Association

    Sustrans

    All Party Parliamentary Group

    CCN

    Home Office

    CLG

    Living Streets

    Walk 21

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    Mark T

  3. Mark T said:
    Quoted message said:

    Not sure if this has been brought up already

    Good spot Waffles. More stuff on the consultation here:
    <www.dft.gov.uk/consultations/open/infrastructuredesign>

    The consultation finishes on the 5th November and they hope to publish
    the final version out early next year.

    (Comments in square brackets obviously my own):

    The intention of Cycling Infrastructure Design is to bring together
    current Government guidance and advice on providing and planning for
    cycle friendly infrastructure that is already publicly available into one
    document. [Yay]

    I am not sure, but this sounds like Cycle Friendly Infrastructure 2,
    which was written a couple of years ago and then disappeared into the DfT.

    Rumour has it they don't like it and this consultation may be an
    attempt to get others to back them up. If it is CFI2, it was probably
    good when given to the DfT. Whether it still is is another question.

    Colin McKenzie

    --
    No-one has ever proved that cycle helmets make cycling any safer at
    the population level, and anyway cycling is about as safe per mile as
    walking.
    Make an informed choice - visit www.cyclehelmets.org.

  4. Quoted message said:

    I am not sure, but this sounds like Cycle Friendly Infrastructure 2,
    which was written a couple of years ago and then disappeared into the
    DfT.

    Rumour has it they don't like it and this consultation may be an
    attempt to get others to back them up. If it is CFI2, it was probably
    good when given to the DfT. Whether it still is is another question.

    Skimming through it I've noticed one problem so far, which is that in a
    cycle lane the recommended minimum[1] distance from bike wheel to parked
    car is just 1 metre. Obviously this means there's a gap of just 70cm
    between car and handlebar - not far enough to prevent a 'dooring'.

    I suspect the major problems will be what they've left out, rather than
    what they say. I'll try and track down Cycle Friendly Infrastructure and
    lobby the organisations invited to take part to get all the good bits put
    back in.

    [1] I.e. maximum that will be given :-/

    --
    Mark T

  5. On 13 Aug 2007 21:24:45 GMT, Mark T
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    Quoted message said:

    Organisations Consulted: [wot's a CDT?]

    CDTs (Aylesbury, Brighton, Darlington, Derby, Exeter, Lancaster)

    Cycling demonstration towns.

    Cycling England pumped £17m into those six towns for cycling
    infrastructure - that buys a lot of white paint.

    www.cyclingengland.co.uk/dt_aylesbury.php
    www.cyclingengland.co.uk/dt_brighton.php
    www.cyclingengland.co.uk/dt_darlington.php
    www.cyclingengland.co.uk/dt_derby.php
    www.cyclingengland.co.uk/dt_exeter.php
    www.cyclingengland.co.uk/dt_lancaster.php

    I found it particularly sad to learn that, "The highlight in Lancaster
    and Morecambe this month has been Derek Twigg's visit." But there is
    also some excellent stuff going on

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