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  1. We got some handmade mozzarella at the local Italian deli, then we got
    some German Johnson tomatoes and fresh basil at the farmer's market.
    Sliced them, salt and pepper, good Italian olive oil, let sit for an
    hour at room temperature. Pure ambrosia, and a wonderful demonstration
    of how simple ingredients, if they are the highest quality, can create
    extraordinary eating.

    --
    Peter Aitken

  2. Peter A said:

    We got some handmade mozzarella at the local Italian deli, then we got
    some German Johnson tomatoes and fresh basil at the farmer's market.
    Sliced them, salt and pepper, good Italian olive oil, let sit for an
    hour at room temperature. Pure ambrosia, and a wonderful demonstration
    of how simple ingredients, if they are the highest quality, can create
    extraordinary eating.

    --
    Peter Aitken

    Add some sliced tomatoes, red onion, and balsamic and you got a $8.99
    appetizer. =) Oh how I love the Tower of Pizza! They get my money
    on a weekly basis.

  3. Peter A said:

    We got some handmade mozzarella at the local Italian deli, then we got
    some German Johnson tomatoes and fresh basil at the farmer's market.
    Sliced them, salt and pepper, good Italian olive oil, let sit for an
    hour at room temperature. Pure ambrosia, and a wonderful demonstration
    of how simple ingredients, if they are the highest quality, can create
    extraordinary eating.

    Well put.

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Peter Aitken

    --Bryan

  4. Peter A said...

    Quoted message said:


    We got some handmade mozzarella at the local Italian deli, then we got
    some German Johnson tomatoes and fresh basil at the farmer's market.
    Sliced them, salt and pepper, good Italian olive oil, let sit for an
    hour at room temperature. Pure ambrosia, and a wonderful demonstration
    of how simple ingredients, if they are the highest quality, can create
    extraordinary eating.

    Sounds great.

    Many times I'm mystified by recipes that call for "dozens" of herbs and
    spices.

    Bobby Flay built a chicken salad and he used so many spices and herbs and
    crud at the end I wanted to yell "STOP" at the TV.

    I'd like to see Reality Food-TV and watch the staff have to eat the dishes
    on camera and watch their faces.

    I remember the galloping gourmet would drag someone to his dinner table at
    the end of the program to try the food. Many times the expression on the
    poor audience member was pretty sour and they couldn't even force a smile!

    I saved your "Heaven" for later. I like everything you used but don't know
    about the tomatoes or availability.

    Thanks,

    Andy

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Peter A said:

    We got some handmade mozzarella at the local Italian deli, then we got
    some German Johnson tomatoes and fresh basil at the farmer's market.
    Sliced them, salt and pepper, good Italian olive oil, let sit for an
    hour at room temperature. Pure ambrosia, and a wonderful demonstration
    of how simple ingredients, if they are the highest quality, can create
    extraordinary eating.

    Mmmmm ;-d

    Insalata Caprisse!

    I've got to get some local 'maters from the farmers market so I can try
    that.
    --
    Peace, Om

    Remove _ to validate e-mails.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  6. Peter A said:

    We got some handmade mozzarella at the local Italian deli, then we got
    some German Johnson tomatoes and fresh basil at the farmer's market.
    Sliced them, salt and pepper, good Italian olive oil, let sit for an
    hour at room temperature. Pure ambrosia, and a wonderful demonstration
    of how simple ingredients, if they are the highest quality, can create
    extraordinary eating.


    Reminds me of the time i was reading the novel "Hadrian VII" by Baron
    Corvo, the story was only so - so but one of the main characters, a
    Cardinal of the Roman church, would regularly eat a meal of fresh bread
    & fruit, cheese and wine.

    I went out and got a good bottle of a nice white wine, bought some
    bakery fresh bread and some fruits and cheese, and the combo of flavours
    was ambrosial, stunning in the taste and the simplicity of producing them.

    Alas ... those were the days when i lived in an area where really ripe
    fruit were readily available. So often these days, in large urban
    areas, fruit is sold under ripe, and has to be kept for a day or 2 to
    hopefully improve.
    --
    JL

  7. "Joseph Littleshoes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Reminds me of the time i was reading the novel "Hadrian VII" by Baron
    Corvo, the story was only so - so but one of the main characters, a
    Cardinal of the Roman church, would regularly eat a meal of fresh bread &
    fruit, cheese and wine.

    I went out and got a good bottle of a nice white wine, bought some bakery
    fresh bread and some fruits and cheese, and the combo of flavours was
    ambrosial, stunning in the taste and the simplicity of producing them.

    Alas ... those were the days when i lived in an area where really ripe
    fruit were readily available. So often these days, in large urban areas,
    fruit is sold under ripe, and has to be kept for a day or 2 to hopefully
    improve.
    --
    JL

    What's worse, is that fruit that used to be sold under-ripe could be set on
    the counter and within a few days, it was ripe enough. A good example was
    peaches. The last I bought did not ripen, but only rotted. This is
    happening more and more.

    I've been buying organic bananas from a market which has a Dole label at 79
    cents a pound instead of 59 or 69 a pound. They were good and would get
    those nice little brown speckles when they ripened, and taste sweet. Now
    the last 3 packages I've bought are [censored], will not ripen; just sit there and
    deteriorate.

    What I did notice a week ago last Saturday when I went to the local outdoors
    farmers' market, the large green tomato that I bought (because I didn't get
    around to fixing it), ripened to a beautiful red tomato within 4 days. It
    tasted great, too.
    I'm not confounded, just [censored]!
    Dee Dee

  8. On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:07:34 -0400, Peter A <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    We got some handmade mozzarella at the local Italian deli, then we got
    some German Johnson tomatoes and fresh basil at the farmer's market.
    Sliced them, salt and pepper, good Italian olive oil, let sit for an
    hour at room temperature. Pure ambrosia, and a wonderful demonstration
    of how simple ingredients, if they are the highest quality, can create
    extraordinary eating.

    Where is the Italian deli? I may see if I can get to it the next time
    we are in the area.
    --
    Susan N.

    "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
    48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
    Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

  9. Dee wrote on Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:54:30 -0400:

    ??>> Alas ... those were the days when i lived in an area
    where
    ??>> really ripe fruit were readily available. So often these
    ??>> days, in large urban areas, fruit is sold under ripe, and
    ??>> has to be kept for a day or 2 to hopefully improve. -- JL

    DD> What's worse, is that fruit that used to be sold under-ripe
    DD> could be set on the counter and within a few days, it was
    DD> ripe enough. A good example was peaches. The last I bought
    DD> did not ripen, but only rotted. This is happening more and
    DD> more.

    DD> I've been buying organic bananas from a market which has a
    DD> Dole label at 79 cents a pound instead of 59 or 69 a pound.
    DD> They were good and would get those nice little brown
    DD> speckles when they ripened, and taste sweet. Now the last
    DD> 3 packages I've bought are [censored], will not ripen; just sit
    DD> there and deteriorate.

    I wonder if you could sue for false advertising when a grocery
    store has a big sign saying "Fresh, Sweet Peaches" and the fruit
    is as hard as a rock and has no discernible aroma?

    James Silverton
    Potomac, Maryland

    E-mail, with obvious alterations:
    not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

  10. "Dee Dee" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    What's worse, is that fruit that used to be sold under-ripe could be set
    on the counter and within a few days, it was ripe enough. A good example
    was peaches. The last I bought did not ripen, but only rotted. This is
    happening more and more.

    It's true! I stopped buying nectarines for that very reason (let's not
    even talk about avocadoes) ... I'd buy them rock hard, let them sit,
    then one day they would be rotten. No in between.

    Lately Acme has had a selection of ripe nectarines and they really
    are! I've been buying them all summer. Buy them ripe and make sure
    to eat them within a day or two. The hard ones for sale have been
    cheaper, I know not to bother.

    One day last week I stopped at the ripe nectarines, they were hard.
    I don't manhandle them, just picking them up you can tell. As I walked
    away I heard the produce guy telling some young woman, That lady
    didn't buy any nectarines, these are not ripe yet! Woah, leave me out
    of it. I guess she won't make that mistake again.

    Quoted message said:

    What I did notice a week ago last Saturday when I went to the local
    outdoors farmers' market, the large green tomato that I bought (because I
    didn't get around to fixing it), ripened to a beautiful red tomato within
    4 days. It tasted great, too.

    Nice! I bought a little bucket of mismatched tomatoes for $1 at a
    farmer's market yesterday. Mismatched, they were 4 large ripe to
    almost overripe tomatoes. One I had with dinner tonight, cooked it
    on the grill with some parmagiana and basil on it. It was good, but not
    cooked as well as I would like.

    Steak, fresh corn, grilled tomato ... does summer dinner get much
    better than that?

    nancy

  11. "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    One I had with dinner tonight, cooked it
    on the grill with some parmagiana and basil on it. It was good, but


    not

    Quoted message said:

    cooked as well as I would like.

    Steak, fresh corn, grilled tomato ... does summer dinner get much
    better than that?

    nancy

    For supper for me will be chicken drumsticks rubbed in a cocoa powder hot
    spice rub (not that hot) and smoked in the smoker using hickory chips.
    (More like buffalo legs than buffalo wings) ...It's a little after 5
    now...should be great eating around 7 or 7:30 pm...side will be green
    beans sauteed in a little bacon greese. Soon my crab apple wood will be
    hear and that'll be that for buying wood chips.

    --

    The house of the burning beet-Alan

    It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
    Elbonian Folklore

  12. Dee Dee said:

    "Joseph Littleshoes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Reminds me of the time i was reading the novel "Hadrian VII" by Baron
    Corvo, the story was only so - so but one of the main characters, a
    Cardinal of the Roman church, would regularly eat a meal of fresh bread &
    fruit, cheese and wine.

    I went out and got a good bottle of a nice white wine, bought some bakery
    fresh bread and some fruits and cheese, and the combo of flavours was
    ambrosial, stunning in the taste and the simplicity of producing them.

    Alas ... those were the days when i lived in an area where really ripe
    fruit were readily available. So often these days, in large urban areas,
    fruit is sold under ripe, and has to be kept for a day or 2 to hopefully
    improve.
    --
    JL

    What's worse, is that fruit that used to be sold under-ripe could be set on
    the counter and within a few days, it was ripe enough. A good example was
    peaches. The last I bought did not ripen, but only rotted. This is
    happening more and more.

    I've been buying organic bananas from a market which has a Dole label at 79
    cents a pound instead of 59 or 69 a pound. They were good and would get
    those nice little brown speckles when they ripened, and taste sweet. Now
    the last 3 packages I've bought are [censored], will not ripen; just sit there and
    deteriorate.

    What I did notice a week ago last Saturday when I went to the local outdoors
    farmers' market, the large green tomato that I bought (because I didn't get
    around to fixing it), ripened to a beautiful red tomato within 4 days. It
    tasted great, too.
    I'm not confounded, just [censored]!
    Dee Dee


    Ever hear the name "Malthus" as in "Malthusian"? or seen the movie
    "Solyent Green"?

    "The Sheep Look Up" is another novel about tainted food produced by a
    central supplier to feed billions of people.

    Its more profitable to centralize food production and distribution but
    history teaches us the same lesson again and again, when its done it
    invariably leads to massive corruption of the system.

    We are already too dependent on certain specific strains of wheat and
    potatoes and other single variety plants and animals that it almost
    insures something will go wrong, no matter how big and strong the system
    may look it has a fatal flaw that makes it self defeating, even with the
    best of people running such a system for the best of reasons it will
    suffer accidents, and effect very large numbers of people.

    Where as locally produced & consumed foods affect only the local population.

    I was walking through a rather posh, upscale supermarket the other day
    and the overabundance, the flagrant flaunting of a really false over
    abundance was almost sickening.

    So many of the products were just variations on a theme, and many of
    them just pure flavour with no attempt at nutrition. My own experience
    has taught me that very expensive products in very elaborate packaging
    with a pronounced provenance are often disappointing. If i can find a
    generic version of a product i will purchase it in preference to a name
    brand as i think the generics usually have a better flavour, and the
    national brands are often times more bland.

    Though my Mexican coffee is picked in Asia, packaged in Canada and sold
    in America as "Cafe Molido" red foil packet, 3.19 per pound.
    --
    JL

  13. "James Silverton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:W84wi.41012$SV4.3416@trnddc08...

    Quoted message said:


    DD> I've been buying organic bananas from a market which has a
    DD> Dole label at 79 cents a pound instead of 59 or 69 a pound.
    DD> They were good and would get those nice little brown
    DD> speckles when they ripened, and taste sweet. Now the last
    DD> 3 packages I've bought are [censored], will not ripen; just sit
    DD> there and deteriorate.

    I wonder if you could sue for false advertising when a grocery store has a
    big sign saying "Fresh, Sweet Peaches" and the fruit is as hard as a rock
    and has no discernible aroma?

    James Silverton
    Potomac, Maryland

    I guess someone would/could. I'm trying to spend the rest of my life
    staying away from courtrooms. It would take a great deal to bring me near
    one - and I'm not talking about money; perhaps:
    "Revenge is a meal best served cold."

    Dee Dee

  14. Peter A said:

    We got some handmade mozzarella at the local Italian deli, then we got
    some German Johnson tomatoes and fresh basil at the farmer's market.
    Sliced them, salt and pepper, good Italian olive oil, let sit for an
    hour at room temperature. Pure ambrosia, and a wonderful demonstration
    of how simple ingredients, if they are the highest quality, can create
    extraordinary eating.

    This sounds like Heaven to me. Basil is so easy to grow, I also grow a
    sweet, Thai basil to use in Pho.

    Becca

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