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Infernal cable question

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  1. My primary bike is an 11 year old Corima that has internal cable routing for
    the shifting. The shifting has gotten absolutely horrible. Seemingly
    whenever there could be any moisture present, the effort needed to move the
    right hand upshift paddle becomes incredibly hard. This has been going on
    all year. Until very recently, the downshifts were not exactly crisp, but
    certainly did not reflect an equivalent binding or force to allow the
    derailleur to move. Since Sunday, I can click down through the gears and the
    cable end will stick out the front of the "brifter". It will then gradually,
    over a period of minutes, shift down to the selected cog.

    For the longest time I used the Gore cables, but you can't find them any
    more. I have sprayed Tri-flow into the internal housing to aid in the
    slipperiness and also blown air through the housing to clean out any when
    I've changed the actual cable wire. I also use the teflon coated Jagwire.
    I've changed/fiddled with it at least three times already this year with
    only temporary, modest improvement.

    I can understand if the Tri-flow gradually caused the ID of the housing to
    swell, but the binding is inconsistent.

    Thoughts, suggestions?

  2. Carl Sundquist said:

    My primary bike is an 11 year old Corima that has internal cable routing for
    the shifting. The shifting has gotten absolutely horrible. Seemingly
    whenever there could be any moisture present, the effort needed to move the
    right hand upshift paddle becomes incredibly hard. This has been going on
    all year. Until very recently, the downshifts were not exactly crisp, but
    certainly did not reflect an equivalent binding or force to allow the
    derailleur to move. Since Sunday, I can click down through the gears and the
    cable end will stick out the front of the "brifter". It will then gradually,
    over a period of minutes, shift down to the selected cog.

    For the longest time I used the Gore cables, but you can't find them any
    more. I have sprayed Tri-flow into the internal housing to aid in the
    slipperiness and also blown air through the housing to clean out any when
    I've changed the actual cable wire. I also use the teflon coated Jagwire.
    I've changed/fiddled with it at least three times already this year with
    only temporary, modest improvement.

    I can understand if the Tri-flow gradually caused the ID of the housing to
    swell, but the binding is inconsistent.

    Thoughts, suggestions?

    Your internal routing is the more common setup where you've got a
    normal full cable housing through the frame, either inside an internal
    sleeve tube or just through the frame tube, correct? If so, have you
    tried replacing the housing?

  3. Carl Sundquist said:

    My primary bike is an 11 year old Corima that has internal cable routing
    for the shifting. The shifting has gotten absolutely horrible. Seemingly
    whenever there could be any moisture present, the effort needed to move
    the right hand upshift paddle becomes incredibly hard. This has been
    going on all year. Until very recently, the downshifts were not exactly
    crisp, but certainly did not reflect an equivalent binding or force to
    allow the derailleur to move. Since Sunday, I can click down through the
    gears and the cable end will stick out the front of the "brifter". It
    will then gradually, over a period of minutes, shift down to the
    selected cog.

    For the longest time I used the Gore cables, but you can't find them any
    more. I have sprayed Tri-flow into the internal housing to aid in the
    slipperiness and also blown air through the housing to clean out any
    when I've changed the actual cable wire. I also use the teflon coated
    Jagwire. I've changed/fiddled with it at least three times already this
    year with only temporary, modest improvement.

    I can understand if the Tri-flow gradually caused the ID of the housing
    to swell, but the binding is inconsistent.

    New 5mm gear casing with new wires (Campagnolo are nice, others can be
    good) wiped with oil on installation will shift crisply for a good long
    while. Use metal casing caps of the appropriate dimension - they are
    _not_ all the same!

    4mm casing, plastic casing end caps, corrosion all degrade shift response.

    Your TriFlow is rinsing off whatever lubrication was there, making it
    rust faster.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  4. Nate Knutson said:

    On Aug 8, 10:57 am, "Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Thoughts, suggestions?

    Your internal routing is the more common setup where you've got a
    normal full cable housing through the frame, either inside an internal
    sleeve tube or just through the frame tube, correct? If so, have you
    tried replacing the housing?

    I tip for the OP, when you do this don't pull the old outer cable out of
    the tube, use strong fishing line to tie the old and new outers cables
    together then pull the new cable through as you pull the old cable out.

    Cheers

    Joel

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  5. Joel Mayes said:
    Nate Knutson said:

    On Aug 8, 10:57 am, "Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Thoughts, suggestions?

    Your internal routing is the more common setup where you've got a
    normal full cable housing through the frame, either inside an
    internal sleeve tube or just through the frame tube, correct? If so,
    have you tried replacing the housing?

    I tip for the OP, when you do this don't pull the old outer cable out
    of the tube, use strong fishing line to tie the old and new outers
    cables together then pull the new cable through as you pull the old
    cable out.

    Even easier is to just use a "guide tube" that fits inside the holes and is
    longer than their span.

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