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Crackdown on cyclists

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  1. http://www.lynnnews.co.uk/news?articleid=3077335

    Lynn News article, on local plod having a crackdwon on pavement cyclists.

    Now I'm all in favour of cyclists being on the road where they are supposed
    to be and off footpaths, but in the case of King's Lynn, it's a bit rich. KL
    has vast numbers of the dreaded white paint outline bikes on what was one
    day, a perfectly ordinary footpath, and all of a sudden, the white outline
    bike makes this a 'facility'. No wonder KL cyclists get confused - the vast
    number of white outline bikes on footpaths send out a signal that it's okay
    to cycle on what is, to all intents and purposes, a footpath. Indeed, I
    avoid cycling in KL due to the vast number of the painted outline bikes on
    footpaths. If you cycle on road you get yelled at to "Get on the cycle
    path!" and if you're on the cycle 'facility' which happens to be no more
    than an ordinary footpath except for the odd white paint oultine bike on it
    periodically, you get yelled at to "Get off the footpath!" No wonder that
    there seems to be a problem with footpath cycling in KL, the clear message
    sent out by officialdom is that it's okay to cycle on the footpath, as
    they've painted so many damned outline bikes about the place.

  2. wafflycat said:

    Lynn News article, on local plod having a crackdwon on pavement cyclists.

    Now I'm all in favour of cyclists being on the road where they are
    supposed to be and off footpaths, but in the case of King's Lynn, it's a
    bit rich. KL has vast numbers of the dreaded white paint outline bikes
    on what was one day, a perfectly ordinary footpath, and all of a sudden,
    the white outline bike makes this a 'facility'. No wonder KL cyclists
    get confused ....

    I assume this is a draft of the letter you're about to fire off to the
    paper? Looks excellent to me - go for it!

    Colin McKenzie

    --
    No-one has ever proved that cycle helmets make cycling any safer at
    the population level, and anyway cycling is about as safe per mile as
    walking.
    Make an informed choice - visit www.cyclehelmets.org.

  3. wafflycat said:

    http://www.lynnnews.co.uk/news?articleid=3077335

    Lynn News article, on local plod having a crackdwon on pavement cyclists.

    Now I'm all in favour of cyclists being on the road where they are
    supposed to be and off footpaths, but in the case of King's Lynn, it's a
    bit rich. KL has vast numbers of the dreaded white paint outline bikes
    on what was one day, a perfectly ordinary footpath, and all of a sudden,
    the white outline bike makes this a 'facility'. No wonder KL cyclists
    get confused - the vast number of white outline bikes on footpaths send
    out a signal that it's okay to cycle on what is, to all intents and
    purposes, a footpath. Indeed, I avoid cycling in KL due to the vast
    number of the painted outline bikes on footpaths. If you cycle on road
    you get yelled at to "Get on the cycle path!" and if you're on the cycle
    'facility' which happens to be no more than an ordinary footpath except
    for the odd white paint oultine bike on it periodically, you get yelled
    at to "Get off the footpath!" No wonder that there seems to be a problem
    with footpath cycling in KL, the clear message sent out by officialdom
    is that it's okay to cycle on the footpath, as they've painted so many
    damned outline bikes about the place.

    In Cambridge they had a recent crack down and issues FPNs to cyclist
    using a particular bit of pavement cut through. After the local cycle
    campaign pointed out to the police that with the lack of certain signs
    it was not actually illegal to cycle there I gather the police have
    agreed to refund the fines.

    Tony

  4. wafflycat' w*a*ff?y?cat*@?btco*nn?ect.com said:

    http://www.lynnnews.co.uk/news?articleid=3077335
    Lynn News article, on local plod having a crackdwon on pavement cyclists.

    Now I'm all in favour of cyclists being on the road where they are supposed
    to be and off footpaths, but in the case of King's Lynn, it's a bit rich. KL
    has vast numbers of the dreaded white paint outline bikes on what was one
    day, a perfectly ordinary footpath, and all of a sudden, the white outline
    bike makes this a 'facility'. [...]

    Last I saw, they don't do that in KL any more, but the councils seemed
    reluctant to remove or fix old farcilities.

    However, Gaywood was left in an inconsistent, confusing and sub-standard
    state. The shared-use paths were mostly rebuilds, so are wide enough and
    have good flat low-friction surfaces, but they start and stop and cross
    roads many many times, with priority at only one road crossing IIRC.

    There was also no merge shown from the cycle tracks around KES onto the
    road towards the clock, so I'm not surprised they're having problems there.
    Unless they've added either a merge or a no-cycling sign between NCN1's
    crossing Lynn Road and the Gaywood filling station, I'd expect fixed
    penalty notices to fall if challenged. The markings used to be unclear.

    I'm mystified why they're targetting the schools area again. That's a
    place where we should be increasing cycle use, to reduce the motor traffic
    congestion at peak times. It looks like a cheap revenue-generation trick,
    exploiting an area with confusing layouts and lots of inexperienced
    cyclists. There are plenty of places where pavement cyclists are a
    problem, like the 'suicide bombers' who jump off the paths from Guannock
    Terrace into London Road. I've dropped the police an email to ask.

    Quoted message said:

    [...] If you cycle on road you get yelled at to "Get on the cycle
    path!" and if you're on the cycle 'facility' which happens to be no more
    than an ordinary footpath except for the odd white paint oultine bike on it
    periodically, you get yelled at to "Get off the footpath!" [...]

    FWIW, neither of those happened to me in 7 or so years in KL, but both of
    those happened to me within 3 months of moving to Weston-super-Mare.

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