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  1. I've just come back from a long weekend throwing myself down stupidly
    steep slopes in the Alps and had a lot of fun.

    I wisely left my aging hardtail Stumpjumper at home and hired a Scott
    Ransom. I was pleased with this bike, but I have little experience
    of full suspension bikes, so I'm not sure I'm really able to properly
    assess the merits of bikes like that.

    I am however now strongly tempted to get myself a new mountain
    bike. Due to the lack of ski lifts in the immediate vicinity of
    Cambridge I guess I should get something that can be ridden up hills
    as well as thrown down near vertical Screaming Walls of Death 🙂

    So.. any advice or recommendations?

  2. Paul Rudin said:

    I've just come back from a long weekend throwing myself down stupidly
    steep slopes in the Alps and had a lot of fun.

    I wisely left my aging hardtail Stumpjumper at home and hired a Scott
    Ransom. I was pleased with this bike, but I have little experience
    of full suspension bikes, so I'm not sure I'm really able to properly
    assess the merits of bikes like that.

    I am however now strongly tempted to get myself a new mountain
    bike. Due to the lack of ski lifts in the immediate vicinity of
    Cambridge I guess I should get something that can be ridden up hills
    as well as thrown down near vertical Screaming Walls of Death 🙂

    So.. any advice or recommendations?

    There are plenty of long travel full sus bikes that pedal fine up hill
    and rip going down, but you not going to win any XC races on one. When
    I got my last bike I was looking for a bike I could ride all day,
    which would make the most of any downhill sections on my ride and
    where I'd be only loosing a bit of up hill performance. I ended up
    with a Turner Sixpack (now RFX) with a propedal shock and more light
    weight components rather than the normal hardcore groupset (X0 rather
    than Saint). Fitted with a Marzocchi 66 with 20mm through axle I had a
    rock solid bike that could take a pounding going downhill and fitted
    with triple crankset so I could get back up the other side. I also
    looked at the Santa Cruz Nomad which is also a great bike, I just
    prefered the fluid motion of the Turner rear suspension compared to
    the Santa Cruz's VPP design. Specialized have the Enduro, which is
    supposed to be great, I just never found the specialized a good fit
    for my lanky frame.

    Things to look for, hydraulic brakes, don't mess about with cable
    disks, 8" rotor at the front, a propedal shock or a frame designed
    around VPP ( santa cruz, ellsworth, foes). If you want one bike to do
    it all 'well' be prepared to sell you car, remortgage your house or
    get a second job. Go to http://www.bonthronebikes.com to check some
    prices on All Mountain bikes.

    Good luck in your search.

  3. Paul Rudin said the following on 06/08/2007 08:34:

    Quoted message said:

    I am however now strongly tempted to get myself a new mountain
    bike. Due to the lack of ski lifts in the immediate vicinity of
    Cambridge I guess I should get something that can be ridden up hills
    as well as thrown down near vertical Screaming Walls of Death 🙂

    I don't know about full-suss bikes specifically, but if I was in your
    position I would be reading MTB mags and on-line reviews to come up with
    a shortlist, then toddling off to several LBSs to try out some bikes.

    Personally, I'll stick with my steel hardtail :-)

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  4. Paul Boyd usenet.is.worse@plusnet said:

    Paul Rudin said the following on 06/08/2007 08:34:

    Quoted message said:

    I am however now strongly tempted to get myself a new mountain
    bike. Due to the lack of ski lifts in the immediate vicinity of
    Cambridge I guess I should get something that can be ridden up hills
    as well as thrown down near vertical Screaming Walls of Death 🙂

    I don't know about full-suss bikes specifically, but if I was in your
    position I would be reading MTB mags and on-line reviews to come up with
    a shortlist, then toddling off to several LBSs to try out some bikes.


    very much a good idea.

    also not being funny will you (OP) use it. if not you'll be paying the
    maintences etc costs on it. for no good reason.

    Quoted message said:

    Personally, I'll stick with my steel hardtail :-)

    i still have my totaly rigid steel one that i only stopped useing on the
    beacons a few years ago. must be getting on for 14 or so years old. has
    plenty of use around town with road tires on now. and the occation taste
    of grass and mud when i'm being silly. i do have a newer hardtail that
    is lovely to ride though rather unused as the area is lacking in hills
    this being kingston area.

    roger
    --
    www.rogermerriman.com

  5. Paul Rudin said:

    I've just come back from a long weekend throwing myself down stupidly
    steep slopes in the Alps and had a lot of fun.

    I wisely left my aging hardtail Stumpjumper at home and hired a Scott
    Ransom. I was pleased with this bike, but I have little experience
    of full suspension bikes, so I'm not sure I'm really able to properly
    assess the merits of bikes like that.

    I am however now strongly tempted to get myself a new mountain
    bike. Due to the lack of ski lifts in the immediate vicinity of
    Cambridge I guess I should get something that can be ridden up hills
    as well as thrown down near vertical Screaming Walls of Death 🙂

    So.. any advice or recommendations?

    Where do you find vertical screaming walls of death in Cambridgeshire?

    Seriously, if that is where you do most of your riding a hardtail is
    just fine - the only use for full suspension is taking the worst out of
    the sun baked hoof-prints on the trails. If you are planning on riding
    somewhere more challenging such as the Peaks or Lake District then it
    could be worthwhile for the more technical trails although a good
    hardtail is still quite usable. Perhaps spend the money instead on a
    new hardtail with good suspension forks and hydraulic disk brakes as
    good full suspension will cost you money.

    Tony

  6. Tony Raven said:
    Paul Rudin said:

    I've just come back from a long weekend throwing myself down stupidly
    steep slopes in the Alps and had a lot of fun.

    I wisely left my aging hardtail Stumpjumper at home and hired a Scott
    Ransom. I was pleased with this bike, but I have little experience
    of full suspension bikes, so I'm not sure I'm really able to properly
    assess the merits of bikes like that.

    I am however now strongly tempted to get myself a new mountain
    bike. Due to the lack of ski lifts in the immediate vicinity of
    Cambridge I guess I should get something that can be ridden up hills
    as well as thrown down near vertical Screaming Walls of Death 🙂

    So.. any advice or recommendations?

    Where do you find vertical screaming walls of death in Cambridgeshire?

    Drainage dykes :-)

    My serious question is the OP's budget. If there is two grand burning a
    hole (plus budget for subsequent maintenance of the various springy and
    transmission bits) then its a very different proposition to "£500 is rather
    a lot for a bike".

    - Nigel

    --
    Nigel Cliffe,
    Webmaster at http://www.2mm.org.uk/

  7. In article <[email hidden]>, Roger
    Merriman <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    i still have my totaly rigid steel one that i only stopped useing on the
    beacons a few years ago. must be getting on for 14 or so years old.

    I'm off to the Brecon Beacons this weekend with some friends and we may
    hire bikes locally - I've never done off road stuff before.
    --
    congokid
    Eating out in London? Read my tips...
    http://congokid.com

  8. congokid said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Roger
    Merriman <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    i still have my totaly rigid steel one that i only stopped useing on the
    beacons a few years ago. must be getting on for 14 or so years old.

    I'm off to the Brecon Beacons this weekend with some friends and we may
    hire bikes locally - I've never done off road stuff before.

    there are number of places that do hire no idea if any good. but lots of
    hills to climb and decend. low traffic area so roads are quite good.
    though the traffic on the A40 and other trunk roads does clip along.

    i was born and bred in the eastern edge so ask away if you wish.

    roger
    --
    www.rogermerriman.com

  9. congokid said the following on 07/08/2007 10:07:

    Quoted message said:

    I've never done off road stuff before.

    You will enjoy it :-)

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

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